Topic of “Chemtrails” Discussed at United Nations Global Warming Session

[dannno]

Cloud seeding is not the same thing as chemtrails.

So now YOU'RE the conspiracy theorist? Why are you defining what a chemtrail is, I thought you didn't even think they existed?

 

[eduardo89]

So now YOU'RE the conspiracy theorist? Why are you defining what a chemtrail is, I thought you didn't even think they existed?

I'm going by the definition you the chemtrail clowns use which is that that aircraft contrails are a form of chemical dispersal through which the government or some secret evil organisation is attempting to poison people from above.

Cloud seeding is something completely different.

Anyway, you still haven't responded to my question. When did the German government admit to chemtrailing as you claimed they did?

 

[mosquitobite]

I mean, we can just ignore this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-YEARS-test-chemical-warfare-technology.html

Our government is GOOD! There is no proof that they have ever done anything secretive or harmful!

 

[mosquitobite]

http://www.aquiess.com/Weather-Modification-WMO-Statement.html

In recent years there has been a decline in the support for weather modification research, and a tendency to move directly into operational projects. It is crucial to recognize that weather modification is still an emerging technology. Uncertainties inherent in the current technologies can only be addressed by programmes of focused research that lead to deeper understanding of the effects of cloud seeding on cloud and precipitation development.

Currently, there are dozens of nations operating hundreds of weather modification projects, particularly in arid and semi-arid regions all over the world, where the lack of sufficient water resources limits their ability to meet food, fibre, and energy demands...

http://www.aquiess.com/introduction.html

aquiess is a micro-weather modification company which utilizes electromagnetics to deliver gentle soaking rain to international agricultural targets.

The company delivers rain into geographic targets through manipulating oceanic weather patterns via a 'resonance' technology. Utilizing atmospheric 'fluid dynamics', electromagnetic waves are able to influence existing 'flow patterns' which deliver oceanic precipitation. By modifying these patterns, rainfall is delivered into vital client agricultural regions.

aquiess operates on a consulting basis on behalf of international clients and is partnered by Drake International for commercial services. Capabilities are being tested for applications into countries threatened by drought and climate change.

The technology behind these services has been developed and funded privately during two decades of research in Australia. Results have attracted significant interest from industry as well as governments.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/11/astronomer-royal-global-warming-lord-rees

Launching mirrors into space, triggering algal blooms in the oceans and seeding clouds are among experimental "Plan B" schemes world leaders would have to consider if the rise in carbon emissions cannot be curbed within a couple of decades, according to one of Britain's most senior scientists.

Hacking the planet's climate through geoengineering, though controversial and "an utter political nightmare", would buy time to develop cleaner sources of energy, the astronomer royal Lord Rees will say in a speech to the annual British Science Festival in Newcastle on Thursday.

If you think they are waiting for permission I have a bridge to sell you!

 

[Zippyjuan]

I think they are specifically targeting your area for sterilization.

But having an airport near-by has little to do with contrails, as you are flying too low in and out of an airport to produce them. You are most likely seeing aircraft transiting the airspace well above that airport.

Fifteen flights would have fifteen landings and fifteen take-offs or thirty trips so you could see 30 contrails from 15 flights (must be a very small airport but you could also see contrails from planes passing by and not stopping there). And if they are flying over California and spraying something, at that altitude it isn't going to hit the ground until at least Oklahoma or maybe even Georgia or Florida (air currents move from north west to south east across the country). That is why crop dusters fly just above the tops of crops they want to spray. Spraying chemicals you want land in a particular place from 30,000 feet is a really dumb plan. It won't land where you want it to but hundreds of miles away.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Can you have different weather going on at the same time? I've seen two planes going in the same direction, different altitudes, and one trail dissipates while the other lingers.

The key being "at different altitudes". How long contrails last and how big they get depends on temperature, wind speed and direction, and relative humidity. Different altitudes may be different in all three.

 

[dannno]

I'm going by the definition you the chemtrail clowns use which is that that aircraft contrails are a form of chemical dispersal through which the government or some secret evil organisation is attempting to poison people from above.

Do you have a citation for that?

I think if the definition of contrail is that it is triggered by water vapor, and anti-chemtrail people always like to say that every contrail formation is purely a contrail, then it is only fair that the definition of chemtrail encompass any structure or cloud that is being caused by anything other than water vapor.

Now, if there are reasons why they are chemtrailing that don't have anything to do with controlling the population, then why isn't there more information about these programs, exactly where and when they are occurring and with what? Why isn't there more oversight and information on these planes just dispersing stuff into the atmosphere? Why doesn't the media cover it if it is all going on right in front of our eyes? You really think we should just trust them? Well I fucking don't and with all the other crap they pull I don't know why you do either.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Now, if there are reasons why they are chemtrailing that don't have anything to do with controlling the population, then why isn't there more information about these programs, exactly where and when they are occurring and with what?

If chemtrailing is to control the population, why is the population growing? (and I will repeat that a chemical sprayed at 30,000 feet where commercial planes fly will travel hundreds of miles before it reaches the ground).

Why isn't there more oversight and information on these planes just dispersing stuff into the atmosphere?

Assumes they are "dispersing stuff". What are they dispersing and why is it- after 90+ years of contrailing (first one reported dates to 1918)- that nobody has been able to show that ANYTHING is being "dispersed"? Everything is speculation that they "must be" spraying "something". Surely somebody would have taken samples from contrails.

 

[Danke]

Fifteen flights would have fifteen landings and fifteen take-offs or thirty trips so you could see 30 contrails from 15 flights (must be a very small airport but you could also see contrails from planes passing by and not stopping there). And if they are flying over California and spraying something, at that altitude it isn't going to hit the ground until at least Oklahoma or maybe even Georgia or Florida (air currents move from north west to south east across the country). That is why crop dusters fly just above the tops of crops they want to spray. Spraying chemicals you want land in a particular place from 30,000 feet is a really dumb plan. It won't land where you want it to but hundreds of miles away.

Not sure why u quoted me in your response.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Sorry, it really should have been Kathy whose post you cited in yours.

 

[dannno]

Hiccups with the new software?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Hiccups with the new software?

Nah- operator failure (me).

 

[ClydeCoulter]

So, how much would it cost to acquire a sampler and a plane fast enough to follow close enough to get a condensed sample of one of the trails we are talking about, and then to have it tested by an independent lab? And what would it take to get clearance to fly at the proper altitude and location on a moments notice?

@Eduardo, will you match the money that I put in for it?

 

[eduardo89]

So, how much would it cost to acquire a sampler and a plane fast enough to follow close enough to get a condensed sample of one of the trails we are talking about, and then to have it tested by an independent lab? And what would it take to get clearance to fly at the proper altitude and location on a moments notice?

@Eduardo, will you match the money that I put in for it?

How much do you want to put in?

And are you sure my money isn't tainted by the global elite?

 

[ClydeCoulter]

How much do you want to put in?

Depends on what it will take, I'll go up to $2,500.00 FRN. Maybe more, depending on how much input I have and whether they will guarantee a sample. They would have to be on notice in the area chosen.

It happens from time to time here on a clear blue sky day, but it's less than an hour operation, crisscrossing paths in a hatch pattern. So, the jet pilot would have to be able to get there quick on notice with the proper air sampler.

Notice: I don't claim to know the WHY of it, just that I see them do it. One thing I have noticed is that I hear aircraft with a strange type of engine noise (and sound really large) fly over the top of them once they cover the sky completely. But, I can't say that I hear that every time.

 

[eduardo89]

Depends on what it will take, I'll go up to $2,500.00 FRN. Maybe more, depending on how much input I have and whether they will guarantee a sample. They would have to be on notice in the area chosen.

I happens from time to time here, but it's less than an hour operation, crisscrossing paths in a hatch pattern. So, the jet pilot would have to be able to get there quick on notice with the proper air sampler.

Well find out what it will take, I'm sure we can get a chipin started here to fund it. Would be an interesting experiment.

 

[mad cow]

So, how much would it cost to acquire a sampler and a plane fast enough to follow close enough to get a condensed sample of one of the trails we are talking about, and then to have it tested by an independent lab? And what would it take to get clearance to fly at the proper altitude and location on a moments notice?

@Eduardo, will you match the money that I put in for it?

The video in post #10 provides a much cheaper remedy.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

The video in post #10 provides a much cheaper remedy.

Funny. I actually went back to see what it was. As bad as clicking on Eduardo's signature link.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Well find out what it will take, I'm sure we can get a chipin started here to fund it. Would be an interesting experiment.

Don't we have pilots on the board? Maybe they could give us a heads up on how to get started finding out how to do it. I'm not sure what kind of jet it would take to respond quickly and at what altitude they would be capable of, etc...

Anyone?

 

[Danke]

How much do you want to put in?

And are you sure my money isn't tainted by the global elite?

If it is, can you spend a little for me and some nice Colombian chick?