Tom Woods on Social Justice Warriors and How To Deal With Them

[juleswin]

SJWs are communists, plain and simple.

You deal with them the same way we've always dealt with communists; point out that communism is retarded.

The more pressing question is: who are the alt-right and how do you deal with them?

The answer to which is, they're NAZIs, and you don't pander to them like certain people (cough*Woods*cough*Rockwell*cough) have been doing.

*cough* Stefan Molyenux *cough* Justin Ramondo *cough* Tom DiLorenzo.

 

[juleswin]

Almost all who identify as alt-right are highly nationalistic and socialistic.

Most of them aren't literally members of the (new) NAZI party, of course, but that's beside the point.

...though, were they magically transported to Germany c. 1932, they clearly would be members of the NAZI party.

Similarly, SJWs aren't members of the Bolshevik Party, but they have the same ideology, and would no doubt have joined at the time.

The Chinese are very nationalistic and socialist but nobody calls them Nazis. The term Nazi usually imply that some is anti-semetic or holds genocidal ideologies against some race. These people are mostly anti Nazis and they believe every statement made by the victors about the Nazi regime. They also support the most pro Israel candidate the US has ever seen.

Can we please stop referring to these people as Nazis, the Nazis deserve better

 

[r3volution 3.0]

The Chinese are very nationalistic and socialist but nobody calls them Nazis. The term Nazi usually imply that some is anti-semetic or holds genocidal ideologies against some race. These people are mostly anti Nazis and they believe every statement made by the victors about the Nazi regime. They also support the most pro Israel candidate the US has ever seen.

I use Nazism/fascism to refer loosely to any form of nationalistic socialism, in contrast to egalitarian socialism (which I loosely call bolshevism).

...I ignore the anti-Semitic aspect, because that's not why the NAZIs were bad (would have been no better if they hated Japanese instead).

You're right that the Chinese are closer to the former than the latter. The same with the Norks, and even the USSR under Stain (contra Lenin).

Can we please stop referring to these people as Nazis, the Nazis deserve better

In fairness to the NAZIs, I rarely called Trump Hitler without prefacing it with "retard-".

The real deal would no doubt be disgusted at the lumpenproles running their gig these days.

 

[merkelstan]

Why did you guys ban this song? I'd like to get it in quadraphonic.

I actually had to google that. The national anthem isn't forbidden, but it turns-out the first two verses are no-longer sung for PC-reasons. A court ruling determined they were not illegal 'because the song did not 'belong to' an outlawed political party..

The first verse describes a geographical area between some rivers I never heard-of which apparently delineates a territory larger than the current German state. This is objectionable because it proclaims either German State territory which doesn't legally belong to the country, or another interpretation is it describes a region as being culturally German irrespective of state boundaries. I can't be arsed to research more.

The un-pc-ness of the 2nd verse is actually pretty funny, imo. Here i is:

Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang
Sollen in der Welt behalten
Ihren alten schönen Klang
Uns zu edler Tat begeistern
Unser ganzes Leben lang

German maids and german faithfulness
German wine and German song
Shall maintain in the world
Their beautiful tenor
And motivate to noble deeds
Our whole life long

As offensive as German Nationalism has been, this seems rather sweet. What don't they like? Praising our womenfolk?

 

[Madison320]

http://tomwoods.com/podcast/ep-703-social-justice-warriors-who-they-are-and-how-to-deal-with-them/

I guess you could point out that they believe in force and legalized theft and initiating violence, but I doubt it would make much difference.

 

[Ron Paul in 2008]

...though, were they magically transported to Germany c. 1932, they clearly would be members of the NAZI party.

I wouldn't be. I would definitely have sympathy for some social policies, but I am against dictatorships even if they are pro-white.

 

[AZJoe]

SJWs are communists, plain and simple. ... point out that communism is retarded.... The more pressing question is: who are the alt-right and how do you deal with them?.

More pressing? In what lala land universe is that? I have yet to see the so called "alt-right" beliefs being propagated by the MSM, being forced as official policy throughout academia, or permeating the general mindset of academia, or being taught and implement on students as policy in major universities. I have yet to see the so called "alt-right" violently blocking people from attending a speaker, or blocking speakers from speaking, shouting down and obstructing private speaking events, or advocate censorship as official policy, punishing those who espouse anything deemed "offensive" outside the 3x5 index card of allowable opinion, or advocate segregated dorms and student facilities, or shutting down a burrito stand for "cultural appropriation", or forcing someone to "bake the damn cake" or else forfeit your livelihood, or by threat of violence force businesses or schools to mandate female customers must share restrooms with men wearing wigs, or that schoolgirls must compete athletically against boys with wigs, or forming a modern day "brownshirts" #antifa brigade to intimidate and assault and set fires and blockade and beat people ....
These are all the policies and actions of the SJW nazis. By their tactics, and actions, the SJWs are the modern day nazi brigade.

Nor does simply pointing out to SJWs that their beliefs are "retarded" fix anything. Who knew that all a targeted professor or speaker or student needed to do was simply tell them their beliefs are" retarded" and miraculously the SJW censorship and harassment and violence would end.

 

[dannno]

You generally have nothing to gain by debating with far leftists types. She is not going to change her beliefs. IF I were you I would stop talking about politics. Only work on people you can change.

Hah, like I said I didn't bring up politics for 10 months, which is very difficult for me I assure you.. look at my post count.. But when the first argument you have with your new roommate is her being mad at you because your dog went in her room and ate her dog's dog food, then the second argument is her being mad at you because her dog went into your room and ate your dog's dog food, do you really think I expected to have a rational discussion about something as complex as politics with this person? I don't care if she is a PhD student (which she is)..

 

[osan]

http://tomwoods.com/podcast/ep-703-social-justice-warriors-who-they-are-and-how-to-deal-with-them/

This all presupposes a need to "deal" with them. For the most part, I ignore them. Occasionally, I toy with them, though they are not much sport. I don't need to destroy them because they are auto-destructive any time they open their ignorant, self-important yaps. How could it be any other way, given the carrying-on typical of their kind?

 

[osan]

SJWs are communists, plain and simple.

You deal with them the same way we've always dealt with communists; point out that communism is retarded.

The more pressing question is: who are the alt-right and how do you deal with them?

The answer to which is, they're NAZIs, and you don't pander to them like certain people (cough*Woods*cough*Rockwell*cough) have been doing.

I sure hope this is some sort of attempt at sarcastic humor.

 

[osan]

I always found it interesting how the word - and concept - of "justice" is insufficient for the left. It has to be "social justice", Well what distinguishes "social justice" from "justice"?

Everything. Justice is a pretty clear concept. So-called "social justice" is no such beast. It has, at best, a very fuzzy, foggy definition in the typical Newspeak tradition such that the operating definition "floats" in order that any whim may be plausibly forwarded as resting within the definition. That is what Theye are all about, particularly in so-called "modern" times - let us say the past 150 years and definitely the past century. It is all part and parcel of what I call "scientifically engineered tyranny", which is the application of the relevant techniques in order to tune one's political instruments for virtually gaRONteed effect. It is really quite amazing to sit back and observe how this all proceeds and the tremendously consistent results that follow over what is now at least four full generations. I cannot prove it, but feel certain that the efficacy of scientific method was recognized long ago as having this kind of potential for the discovery of the methods and means of perfecting tyrannical control over large populations.

Perhaps "social justice" is actually a label for a program of injustice?

A good way of putting it.

 

[AZJoe]

Social Justice Warriors: Mentally Ill Children of Darkness

 

[AZJoe]

 

[timosman]

Social Justice Warriors: Mentally Ill Children of Darkness

It gets much worse when they take most of the positions in your company HR department.