Tom Woods on Social Justice Warriors and How To Deal With Them

[AuH20]

http://tomwoods.com/podcast/ep-703-social-justice-warriors-who-they-are-and-how-to-deal-with-them/

What exactly is the ideology of the “Social Justice Warrior”? What do you do when you’re targeted by one, whether at work or in general? Vox Day — popular blogger, author, SJW slayer, and polymath — joins me for background and strategy.

 

[AZJoe]

 

[r3volution 3.0]

SJWs are communists, plain and simple.

You deal with them the same way we've always dealt with communists; point out that communism is retarded.

The more pressing question is: who are the alt-right and how do you deal with them?

The answer to which is, they're NAZIs, and you don't pander to them like certain people (cough*Woods*cough*Rockwell*cough) have been doing.

 

[Ron Paul in 2008]

SJWs are communists, plain and simple.

You deal with them the same way we've always dealt with communists; point out that communism is retarded.

THat doesn't work. Liberals don't care if they are wrong or not. They refuse to listen.

The more pressing question is: who are the alt-right and how do you deal with them?

The answer to which is, they're NAZIs, and you don't pander to them like certain people (cough*Woods*cough*Rockwell*cough) have been doing.

Well, I am not a Nazi but I am alt right. Now what do you say?

You are more intelligent than buying into the NWO lies.

 

[merkelstan]

I always found it interesting how the word - and concept - of "justice" is insufficient for the left. It has to be "social justice", Well what distinguishes "social justice" from "justice"?

Perhaps "social justice" is actually a label for a program of injustice?

 

[AZJoe]

Free Copy of Sane Space: http://sanespacebook.com/

 

[AZJoe]

Free SJW Attack Survival Guide, particularly for students and faculty of academia. What to do for the individual who finds himself targeted for ousting attack by "Social Justice Warriors"

"The eight stages of the SJW attack sequence are as follows:
1. Locate or Create a Violation of the Narrative.
2. Point and Shriek.
3. Isolate and Swarm.
4. Reject and Transform.
5. Press for Surrender.
6. Appeal to Amenable Authority.
7. Show Trial.
8. Victory Parade.
...
this guide consists of the correct way to respond to an SJW attack once it has been identified,ideally at the earliest stage possible. ... the eight stages of response do not correspond directly to the eight stages of the SJW attack sequence. ..."

For further reading: SJWs Always Lie: Taking Down the Thought Police

 

[otherone]

SJWs are communists, plain and simple.

Even simpler; SJWs are cultists.

 

[Ron Paul in 2008]

Even simpler; SJWs are cultists.

Yes. Agreed. But I call them cucks.

 

[Ron Paul in 2008]

I always found it interesting how the word - and concept - of "justice" is insufficient for the left. It has to be "social justice", Well what distinguishes "social justice" from "justice"?

Perhaps "social justice" is actually a label for a program of injustice?

SJW are retards. They seem to believe that non-whites are oppressed when in reality all the government does is give them special benefits and privileges at the expense of white taxpayers.

 

[merkelstan]

SJW are retards. They seem to believe that non-whites are oppressed when in reality all the government does is give them special benefits and privileges at the expense of white taxpayers.

I think 'taxpayers' alone would have been sufficient and more accurate. I don't know the racial breakdown of taxpayer vs welfare recipient in the USA is though. Do you have any numbers?

In Germany, the govt. stats I saw for e.g. have 40% of those of Turkish descent on welfare, so the majority of them are taxpayers too.

 

[Danke]

I think 'taxpayers' alone would have been sufficient and more accurate. I don't know the racial breakdown of taxpayer vs welfare recipient in the USA is though. Do you have any numbers?

In Germany, the govt. stats I saw for e.g. have 40% of those of Turkish descent on welfare, so the majority of them are taxpayers too.

Germany needs more immigrants. Fur sure.

 

[dannno]

The more pressing question is: who are the alt-right and how do you deal with them?

The answer to which is, they're NAZIs, and you don't pander to them like certain people (cough*Woods*cough*Rockwell*cough) have been doing.

Nazis supported Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein and many other political candidates, that doesn't mean their supporters are all Nazis.. almost all who identify as alt-right are not Nazis, when the Nazi dude showed up to the Trump rally in Portland they kicked him out and called the cops.. the cops didn't do anything and he ended up murdering some leftists. They also thought he was trolling them, apparently he was talking about Trump's Nazi army on his twitter like they were the enemy, so why did he try to become that? He was obviously crazy, may have had some help, who knows.

But the point is real Nazis are few and far between, and many are feds. Saying the alt-right are Nazis is a mainstream media deep state tactic.

Now, Mike Cernovich claims he is not part of the alt-right because he thinks it has been too tainted with the racist Nazi types. He considers himself "new right", which I don't know I like that because new right is close to neo right which is linguistically close to neo nazi, so you have that whole association. I don't really consider myself alt-right either, but there are certainly a lot in the movement who have been influential in shifting politics into an anti-deep state nationalism versus deep state globalism.

 

[dannno]

As far as answering the OP, the way you deal with them is to be firm and calm. Let them become hysterical.

My roommate for the last year is a major SJW, she has a social justice calendar and a whole bookshelf full of social justice warrior books.

She didn't know I supported Trump until about 2 months ago when I started defending him on the Russia stuff then went on to some other things. She flipped out and started fights with me about all sorts of random house shit for the next week or so. She is the lease holder so she can decide to kick me out any time. But things calmed down, now we have a better relationship than we did before the debacle. Not sure how long that will last though.

 

[merkelstan]

shifting politics into an anti-deep state nationalism versus deep state globalism.

That alone is extremist or 'Nazi', at least on this side of the pond.

 

[Danke]

That alone is extremist or 'Nazi', at least on this side of the pond.

Why did you guys ban this song? I'd like to get it in quadraphonic.

 

[Ron Paul in 2008]

I think 'taxpayers' alone would have been sufficient and more accurate. I don't know the racial breakdown of taxpayer vs welfare recipient in the USA is though. Do you have any numbers?

In Germany, the govt. stats I saw for e.g. have 40% of those of Turkish descent on welfare, so the majority of them are taxpayers too.

You're right. Everyone pays taxes. But I said white taxpayers because the SJWs accuse whites of being racist. If we are so racist why do we fund these programs?

 

[Ron Paul in 2008]

Nazis supported Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein and many other political candidates, that doesn't mean their supporters are all Nazis.. almost all who identify as alt-right are not Nazis,

You're pretty reasonable, but I don't think people of the alt right voted for Bernie Sanders. Hes Jewish. So is Jill Stein. It doesn't make sense from an alt-right perspective to vote for them. And this isn't just because they are JEws, but because they are extreme open borders types.

But the point is real Nazis are few and far between, and many are feds. Saying the alt-right are Nazis is a mainstream media deep state tactic.

Its kinda like "Nut picking." They focus on the nuts who are Nazis and only give them press to discredit the rest of the alt right who are mostly normal conservative people.

One thing I know about leftists is every tactic and attack they use is always derived from some logical fallacy.

Now, Mike Cernovich claims he is not part of the alt-right because he thinks it has been too tainted with the racist Nazi types. He considers himself "new right", which I don't know I like that because new right is close to neo right which is linguistically close to neo nazi, so you have that whole association. I don't really consider myself alt-right either, but there are certainly a lot in the movement who have been influential in shifting politics into an anti-deep state nationalism versus deep state globalism.

While I sorta like and respect Mike Cernovich, I think its hes a dumbass if he is letting the media narrative that we are Nazis influence him out of the alt right. If anything he should call them out.

 

[Ron Paul in 2008]

As far as answering the OP, the way you deal with them is to be firm and calm. Let them become hysterical.

Leftists are overly emotional. TO get through to them I suppose we have to be emotional too, in addition to what you suggested.

My roommate for the last year is a major SJW, she has a social justice calendar and a whole bookshelf full of social justice warrior books.

She didn't know I supported Trump until about 2 months ago when I started defending him on the Russia stuff then went on to some other things. She flipped out and started fights with me about all sorts of random house $#@! for the next week or so. She is the lease holder so she can decide to kick me out any time. But things calmed down, now we have a better relationship than we did before the debacle. Not sure how long that will last though.

You generally have nothing to gain by debating with far leftists types. She is not going to change her beliefs. IF I were you I would stop talking about politics. Only work on people you can change.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

almost all who identify as alt-right are not Nazis

Almost all who identify as alt-right are highly nationalistic and socialistic.

Most of them aren't literally members of the (new) NAZI party, of course, but that's beside the point.

...though, were they magically transported to Germany c. 1932, they clearly would be members of the NAZI party.

Similarly, SJWs aren't members of the Bolshevik Party, but they have the same ideology, and would no doubt have joined at the time.