Tom Woods: My Memories of Jesse Benton

[SilentBull]

I like Tom Woods and respect him, but he and RevPAC had no clue how to convince regular Republicans to vote for Ron. The campaign did a great job where they could. Iowa was a good example. If it weren't for the Santorum push, Ron would have won there.

 

[DylanWaco]

I'm not a Mises person and I think Woods wasn't on the official campaign because he didn't want to be on the official campaign as much as anything else.

Having said that you are grasping at straws here if you are pretending that Hunter's role was peripheral. He was the official blogger for a campaign that was heavily driven by the internet. Curiously his past associations (much more egregious than Tom's) didn't keep him from being brought on. Why was that? Perhaps because he wrote Rand's first book and was with the Randians on the ground for a big portion of the Kentucky race. Nah that is surely just a coincidence....

 

[angelatc]

I like Tom Woods and respect him, but he and RevPAC had no clue how to convince regular Republicans to vote for Ron. The campaign did a great job where they could. Iowa was a good example. If it weren't for the Santorum push, Ron would have won there.

Yeah, right, ok. (Paul came in 3rd, btw.)

 

[DanielBein]

William you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[DanielBein]

Sorry William, but that number doesn't work. As Dylan points out, Jack was the official blogger for a campaign that is KNOWN for being heavily supported by the internet. The official blogger once dressed like this, but yeah, Woods was cast out for his past associations. Total nonsense.

 

[Occam's Banana]

I like Tom Woods and respect him, but he and RevPAC had no clue how to convince regular Republicans to vote for Ron.

Tom Woods used to *be* a staunch national security conservative Republican. The idea that he has no clue how to talk to them is absurd.

 

[sailingaway]

And it was , but he learned that the association with the League of the South is toxic and the media would have made a big deal out of it if Woods joined the campaign.

LOL!

This was hardly the first time Ron went through that merry go round. He thought individuals can and should make their own choices and bear their own responsibility, and distraction from the issues is distraction from the issues.

He wouldn't court it intentionally and specifically, but with someone of Woods' caliber, where he gave a couple of speeches on a paid speaking tour would hardly influence this sort of decision.

 

[affa]

"Bentonism is the playing down of Ron Paul’s most popular and important ideas, the impatience with and purging of people who champion those ideas, and an obsessive eye to GOP respectability. "

We have far, far too many Bentonites posting on these boards.

 

[pacelli]

I think Benton is the same guy who told the Maine delegates outside the RNC to "don't look like crybabies" or something along that line.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I think Benton is the same guy who told the Maine delegates outside the RNC to "don't look like crybabies" or something along that line.

Yeah. He doesn't have a way with words, but I understood what he meant. Because we were getting a lot of people on our side because of what the RNC had done.

 

[sailingaway]

I think Benton is the same guy who told the Maine delegates outside the RNC to "don't look like crybabies" or something along that line.

Someone posted at DP that he was a delegate trying to join the Maine walkout backed by a number of states and someone from the campaign said that they shouldn't, initially that Ron didn't want them to (then backed down when challenged admitting he had no reason to think Ron had addressed this point) and that the states such as Texas following and supporting Maine's walkout were 'rogue states'.

Definitely a divergence on the point of Maine, at RNC, it seems.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I like Tom Woods and respect him, but he and RevPAC had no clue how to convince regular Republicans to vote for Ron. The campaign did a great job where they could. Iowa was a good example. If it weren't for the Santorum push, Ron would have won there.

Oh, I think he did.

 

[affa]

I am glad Benton is gone. He needed to go. But, that still doesn't mean I am going to jump on board a bash bandwagon. That is just not my way.

Are you sure it isn't? Because while I'm agnostic on the Adam Kokesh drama - unless I'm confusing you with someone else (and I'm pretty sure I'm not) I've seen you post more anti-Kokesh bash-wagon rhetoric than anyone else...while completely ignoring documented corrections to your vitriol.

My point is that, despite your assertion to the opposite, I'd say joining bash bandwagons is very much your way.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Are you sure it isn't? Because while I'm agnostic on the Adam Kokesh drama - unless I'm confusing you with someone else (and I'm pretty sure I'm not) I've seen you post more anti-Kokesh bash-wagon rhetoric than anyone else...while completely ignoring documented corrections to your vitriol.

My point is that, despite your assertion to the opposite, I'd say joining bash bandwagons is very much your way.

I didn't join a bandwagon against Kokesh. I actually took the time to watch his disgusting videos and made an independent decision. Do you understand the difference? You will also notice that I don't go from thread-to-thread bashing the hell out of him, as is common with bandwagon joiners.

 

[kylejack]

I'm not a Mises person and I think Woods wasn't on the official campaign because he didn't want to be on the official campaign as much as anything else.

Having said that you are grasping at straws here if you are pretending that Hunter's role was peripheral. He was the official blogger for a campaign that was heavily driven by the internet. Curiously his past associations (much more egregious than Tom's) didn't keep him from being brought on. Why was that? Perhaps because he wrote Rand's first book and was with the Randians on the ground for a big portion of the Kentucky race. Nah that is surely just a coincidence....

Because there was a personality conflict with Benton, clearly, and because Benton ordered that he not be allowed on the campaign. Tom Woods wrote Revolution: A Manifesto for Ron. He's contributed plenty.

 

[DylanWaco]

I understand the difference. I took the time to watch Rand's disgusting speeches and media appearances but then was told "it only matters how he votes" or "trust him, he's a huge liar." So the real difference is that many people hold Kokesh to a higher standard than they hold a guy who's last name is Paul

 

[DylanWaco]

Because there was a personality conflict with Benton, clearly, and because Benton ordered that he not be allowed on the campaign. Tom Woods wrote Revolution: A Manifesto for Ron. He's contributed plenty.

Woods was also asked to write Rand's book. He passed it off to Hunter.

 

[sailingaway]

Because there was a personality conflict with Benton, clearly, and because Benton ordered that he not be allowed on the campaign. Tom Woods wrote Revolution: A Manifesto for Ron. He's contributed plenty.

My understanding is that Woods worked from Ron's speech notes, not to downplay the work, or Woods's style, which I really like, but only to assert idea authorship if not drafting.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I understand the difference. I took the time to watch Rand's disgusting speeches and media appearances but then was told "it only matters how he votes" or "trust him, he's a huge liar." So the real difference is that many people hold Kokesh to a higher standard than they hold a guy who's last name is Paul

Hardly. I didn't completely give up on Kokesh after he danced with the head Commie of Code Pink; nor will I give up on Rand because he is cozying up to McConnell. As far as Rand's speeches go, they're pretty damn good, in my opinion.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Woods was also asked to write Rand's book. He passed it off to Hunter.

As I recall, he was busy writing another.