Tom McClintock pays tribute to Ron Paul

[klamath]

seriously?...lol...you beat the hell out of Ron, then say he would have been a good President?...you make zero sense, but hey Gunny agrees with you, so all is not lost...lol...

You are into hero worship and a logical discussion would impossible with you, as Gunny has found out.

 

[sailingaway]

You are into hero worship and a logical discussion would impossible with you, as Gunny has found out.

insults are unnecessary and against TOS. That goes for all doing it.

 

[JK/SEA]

LOL even after I said that I disagreed, and given the whole point of his post was to state how he disagrees with me.

Why are you doing this JK/SEA?

Are you seriously trying to tell the people of RPF's that you know what I believe better than I know what I believe? Are you seriously saying that?

Because that's just crazy!

I admit however, that it strikes me very similarly to what the media does to Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and myself.

OK, apparently what you agreed with originally concerning Klamaths critique of Ron's Executive abilities because he had newsletters, and hired Dondero, and etc. that makes Ron someone who can't make good executive decisions. You agreed to that. Now you start backing away from this and i can smell the tire smoke from here. Fine. We do agree on many things but this ain't one of them.

 

[JK/SEA]

You are into hero worship and a logical discussion would impossible with you, as Gunny has found out.

burp

 

[GunnyFreedom]

OK, apparently what you agreed with concerning Klamaths critique of Ron's Executive abilities because he had newsletters, and hired Dondero, and etc. that makes Ron someone who can't make good executive decisions. You agreed to that. Now you start backing away from this and i can smell the tire smoke from here. Fine. We do agree on many things but this ain't one of them.

Again, you are inventing that out of your own mind. I never said any such thing, nor did I agree with any such thing.

What I said, boiled down to utter simplicity, is that an anti-authoritarian is going to have a hard time in an overwhelmingly authoritarian position.

 

[klamath]

burp

belch

 

[klamath]

Again, you are inventing that out of your own mind. I never said any such thing, nor did I agree with any such thing.

What I said, boiled down to utter simplicity, is that an anti-authoritarian is going to have a hard time in an overwhelmingly authoritarian position.

I know what you mean Gunny. Your words are clear but are being intentionally misunderstood.

 

[JK/SEA]

Again, you are inventing that out of your own mind. I never said any such thing, nor did I agree with any such thing.

What I said, boiled down to utter simplicity, is that an anti-authoritarian is going to have a hard time in an overwhelmingly authoritarian position.

sure i apologise but only for not agreeing to the current summation that Klamath feels Ron can't make Executive decisions. So, you're telling me now you don't agree with Klamath?

btw, i defer any questions about your perceived stance's on posts 4 and 7.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

sure i apologise but only for not agreeing to the current summation that Klamath feels Ron can't make Executive decisions. So, you're telling me now you don't agree with Klamath?

btw, i defer any questions about your perceived stance's on posts 4 and 7.

If you had bothered reading what I have actually been writing rather than simply assuming what you think someone like me should believe....

That's fine. I don't entirely agree with it either. I believe Ron Paul would have made one of the best if not the best Presidents in American history.

Why do you assume that a singular point of disagreement on one item carries with it an entire mindset of your own invention?

You see, this is very much akin to my pet peeve of people who cram their own words in my mouth. In this case instead of words you are cramming an entire mindset I do not hold down my gullet and excoriating me for holding beliefs that YOU have assigned to me.

Surely you can understand why that is annoying, no?

 

[JK/SEA]

If you had bothered reading what I have actually been writing rather than simply assuming what you think someone like me should believe....

posts 4 and 7.

 

[klamath]

JK comes into a thread about McClintock paying tribute to RP and says "fuck this jackal". This jackal, RP endorsed. So JK is saying RP endorses jackals. Now that IS an insult to RP.

 

[SpreadOfLiberty]

 

[Tpoints]

and yet he couldn't endorse Ron Paul during the primaries.

is this the VERY FIRST TIME McClintock every said ONE thing good in public about Ron Paul?

 

[GunnyFreedom]

posts 4 and 7.

So what you are saying is that you STILL insist that you know what I believe better than I, myself know what I believe, and you are supporting this bizarre assertion with vage references and still no quotes.

Doesn't this strike you as odd?

 

[klamath]

is this the VERY FIRST TIME McClintock every said ONE thing good in public about Ron Paul?

No it is not. McClintock has spoken highly of RP for years. He did not however endorse him for president.

 

[Tpoints]

No it is not. McClintock has spoken highly of RP for years. He did not however endorse him for president.

which is really what matters.

 

[klamath]

which is really what matters.

RP endorsed Bachmann for congress but he obviously didn't endorse her for President.

 

[JK/SEA]

So what you are saying is that you STILL insist that you know what I believe better than I, myself know what I believe, and you are supporting this bizarre assertion with vage references and still no quotes.

Doesn't this strike you as odd?

OK, do you agree with this comment from Klamath..''RP is top of the apex when it comes to philosophic leadership but real low on executive leadership and it takes a lot of executive leadership to be president.''

because you said this in post 7..''However, that character trait to be fair would make the role of executive specifically an order of magnitude more difficult.''

tell me i'm making that up.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

OK, do you agree with this comment from Klamath..''RP is top of the apex when it comes to philosophic leadership but real low on executive leadership and it takes a lot of executive leadership to be president.''

No. The extent of my position from the very beginning of this thread was (and remains) simply that 'an anti-authoritarian is going to have a hard time operating an overwhelmingly authoritarian position.' I only agreed to the extent that this was likely the primary reason why McClintock refrained from endorsing Ron Paul for President. Not even that I agreed with McClintock's lack of endorsement, as I myself enthusiastically endorsed Ron Paul for President, and would again.

 

[JK/SEA]

No. The extent of my position from the very beginning of this thread was (and remains) simply that 'an anti-authoritarian is going to have a hard time operating an overwhelmingly authoritarian position.' I only agreed to the extent that this was likely the primary reason why McClintock refrained from endorsing Ron Paul for President. Not even that I agreed with McClintock's lack of endorsement, as I myself enthusiastically endorsed Ron Paul for President, and would again.

fair enough.