Today Ron Paul on Alex Jones Show, Time, TBD, 11am - 2pm CT

[Anti Federalist]

AVOID FRIENDLY HOST, PANDER TO HANNITY

LOL

 

[Anti Federalist]

"[Ron Paul] Dudley Do Right with a 170 IQ" Alex Jones tells a caller about Ron Paul.

You have good luck getting through, call in and plug 16 Dec money bomb!

 

[trey4sports]

whens this comin' on?

 

[jmdrake]

Enough with the sensationalist language bs

It DISGUSTS me that some of Paul's supporters need to have him on a radio show that could provide attack ammunition to other candidates and debate moderators when they could do just as much moneybomb promotion without it

This is why we don't need a December surprise: https://twitter.com/#!/ppppolls/status/146655829494472704

President Paul could do us all a lot more good than former-candidate Paul

Serious question. Did you even read affa's post before responding to it? Where did he say he needed to have Ron on the show? Where did anybody say that? He said Ron is already going on the show anyway so bitching about it does nobody any good! Get real dude. This ain't a survey where Ron Paul will decide whether or not to go on the show. And in the past when others have bitched about AJ not "pimping moneybombs" hard enough, some of us have merely pointed out that if the campaign wants the moneybomb properly pumped the best way is to put someone on the show. It wouldn't even need to be Ron. If they don't care about the extra money (as apparently you don't), then they could just not worry about it and move on. Well apparently they do want the extra money. The Alex Jones team last week wrote a very positive piece about the upcoming moneybomb and this week Ron goes on the show. Coincidence? Maybe. I really don't care. I think people much smarter than you or I have looked at this and decided that pulling out all stops to make as much money as possible before January is a good thing. It seems a topic was carefully picked that would appeal both to Alex Jones' core conspiracy theory audience as well as the general Obama hating "We believe in conspiracies when they aren't about republicans" radio conservative audience. (And if you don't believe me on that, look at how well Donald Trump was doing based on the birther conspiracy before Obama released a contrived long form B.C. and "killed" OBL). This is a brilliant political move by the campaign. I'm not saying this as a "truther" but as someone who sincerely wants Ron Paul to win.

 

[donnay]

Just imagine if you had asked this key question before jumping to conclusions. I didn't get the strategy. I have no problem with Alex Jones but I'm not sure one can argue that Alex Jones is viewed as mainstream; my understanding is that the general public (the people we need to win the election) view him as fringe, a perception the campaign is fighting to shed from Ron Paul. People tend to judge other people based on who they associate with, right or wrong.

Given this, I didn't understand the purpose of having this interview 3 weeks before the Iowa caucus. However, if the hope is to tap into a large donor base via this interview, I get that.

My apologies and I would be glad to oblige. The strategy-- when Ron Paul goes on Alex Jones they know it is not just AJ listeners who are listening. You know MSM snoops are attentively listening in and other opposition. By Jones exposing issues like Fast and Furious, and the National Defense Authorization Act as Martial Law, it forces MSM's hand (so to speak) to talk about these issues. One of the reasons why Alex talks with Dr. Paul about false flags--the MSM would never broach these issues unless forced to do so by much outrage of the citizens who are awaken by these issues. It really is the best PR campaign to bring awareness to false flags and the hijacking of our Republic.

 

[pipewerKz]

whens this comin' on?

2:30PM EST.

 

[LibertyEsq]

Serious question. Did you even read affa's post before responding to it? Where did he say he needed to have Ron on the show? Where did anybody say that? He said Ron is already going on the show anyway so bitching about it does nobody any good! Get real dude. This ain't a survey where Ron Paul will decide whether or not to go on the show. And in the past when others have bitched about AJ not "pimping moneybombs" hard enough, some of us have merely pointed out that if the campaign wants the moneybomb properly pumped the best way is to put someone on the show. It wouldn't even need to be Ron. If they don't care about the extra money (as apparently you don't), then they could just not worry about it and move on. Well apparently they do want the extra money. The Alex Jones team last week wrote a very positive piece about the upcoming moneybomb and this week Ron goes on the show. Coincidence? Maybe. I really don't care. I think people much smarter than you or I have looked at this and decided that pulling out all stops to make as much money as possible before January is a good thing. It seems a topic was carefully picked that would appeal both to Alex Jones' core conspiracy theory audience as well as the general Obama hating "We believe in conspiracies when they aren't about republicans" radio conservative audience. (And if you don't believe me on that, look at how well Donald Trump was doing based on the birther conspiracy before Obama released a contrived long form B.C. and "killed" OBL). This is a brilliant political move by the campaign. I'm not saying this as a "truther" but as someone who sincerely wants Ron Paul to win.

Obviously not, is this a discussion forum or a "only-say-things-I-agree-with-otherwise-I'll-call-you-a-coward" forum.

And I'm not saying we don't want AJ's audience's money, I'm saying it shouldn't be conditional on having Ron come on to discuss said issues.

That said, I was voicing my concerns BEFORE AJ confirmed he was talking about Fast and Furious and not 9/11, so I don't see why you still have a problem with my voicing concerns which have been somewhat alleviated. Who knows, maybe the collective concerns of us "anti-AJers" actually made a difference

If we have another moment like this it will hurt the campaign in my opinion:

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Enough with the sensationalist language bs

It DISGUSTS me that some of Paul's supporters need to have him on a radio show that could provide attack ammunition to other candidates and debate moderators when they could do just as much moneybomb promotion without it

This is why we don't need a December surprise: https://twitter.com/#!/ppppolls/status/146655829494472704


President Paul could do us all a lot more good than former-candidate Paul

Assuming that Paul would offer up some attack ammo simply by being on the Jones show is quite sensationalist. Looking over the past moneybombs we seem to be stuck in ~2mill range and it's not like the contact list is any smaller than in '07. Either people are still on the sidelines or they are truly hurting financially in which case they can't spare anything this time around. We can promote this one like we did the last ones and it'll have similar results. Only so much will be achieved by commenting on youtube and spamming one's FB friends list. In order for the campaign to pull in the much needed extra cash, going on Jones' show is a must at this point. Not only will he get to plug the MB, it's more likely that Jones will talk it up during the 12-16 broadcast.

 

[jabf2006]

My apologies and I would be glad to oblige. The strategy-- when Ron Paul goes on Alex Jones they know it is not just AJ listeners who are listening. You know MSM snoops are attentively listening in and other opposition. By Jones exposing issues like Fast and Furious, and the National Defense Authorization Act as Martial Law, it forces MSM's hand (so to speak) to talk about these issues. One of the reasons why Alex talks with Dr. Paul about false flags--the MSM would never broach these issues unless forced to do so by much outrage of the citizens who are awaken by these issues. It really is the best PR campaign to bring awareness to false flags and the hijacking of our Republic.

I appreciate the apology.

 

[jmdrake]

My apologies and I would be glad to oblige. The strategy-- when Ron Paul goes on Alex Jones they know it is not just AJ listeners who are listening. You know MSM snoops are attentively listening in and other opposition. By Jones exposing issues like Fast and Furious, and the National Defense Authorization Act as Martial Law, it forces MSM's hand (so to speak) to talk about these issues. One of the reasons why Alex talks with Dr. Paul about false flags--the MSM would never broach these issues unless forced to do so by much outrage of the citizens who are awaken by these issues. It really is the best PR campaign to bring awareness to false flags and the hijacking of our Republic.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to donnay again.

Something else I should add to the conversation. Am I the only one that remembers how in 2008 Ron Paul totally beat out the so called "real" conservatives like Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo and Fred Thompson? Am I the only one that sees that this time Ron Paul is again totally beating out the so called "real" conservatives like Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum? As much as people might think Ron Paul could be higher if he did "X" (be more overtly pro Israel, hate on Iran, push the immigrant issue more), the conservative candidates that followed that strategy haven't won the GOP primary and have done worse than Dr. Paul. Think about that.

 

[Nate-ForLiberty]

Ron Paul: Fast & Furious a False Flag

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
December 13, 2011Appearing on the Alex Jones Show today, Texas Rep. and presidential candidate Ron Paul said Attorney General Eric Holder should be fired immediately and Congress should investigate his role in the Fast and Furious operation run by the ATF and the Justice Department.

AG Eric Holder should be fired immediately and investigated by Congress.
The covert operation provided a large number of firearms to Mexican drug cartels waging war with one another and the Mexican government.“He should be immediately fired,” Paul told Alex Jones, “and then there should be an investigation and find out if charges should be made.” He specifically criticized the government for continuously engaging in politically motivated and criminal behavior he characterized as false flag operations.Documents released by CBS News reveal Fast and Furious was exploited to demonize the Second Amendment.“Emails obtained by the network show ATF agents discussing how they could tie guns involved in Mexican violence to gun dealers based in the U.S. to justify the implementation of Demand Letter 3, a regulation that would require U.S. gun stores to report the sale of multiple rifles,” Paul Joseph Watson wrote on December 7.Paul said the government “constantly” engages in such criminal behavior. He cited the example of an allegation made in October by the United States that Iran was involved in an alleged plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador. Paul characterized the incident as a “propaganda stunt.”Following the arrest of a suspect it was discovered the plot was concocted by the FBI. An undercover DEA informant had “strongly pushed” the idea on Mansour J. Arbabsiar, an Iranian-American used-car salesman who was “perennially disheveled” and “hopelessly disorganized,” according to news reports.​

 

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[LibertyEsq]

This is such a horrible idea...

How many of you were critical of the people President Obama associated with that were considered extreme during the last election? In what sense is Alex Jones not extreme?

To be fair, AJ isn't Bill Ayers. He says some controversial things but he isn't violent

 

[djruden]

This is such a horrible idea...

How many of you were critical of the people President Obama associated with that were considered extreme during the last election? In what sense is Alex Jones not extreme?

If we want to sway establishment type: AJ is not for us. If we want to sway Tea Party type: AJ is not for us. If we want to sway conspiracy theorists who share in AJ's theories, then ok. But I think the numbers favor the other two.

Does Ron Paul want to win this election cycle or not?

Ron Paul is running for President of the COUNTRY. Not just the tea party. Not just establishment. Let Ron be Ron and you worry about what YOU can do to help him...

 

[trey4sports]

oooohhhhh eric holder should be fired for his role in FandF. Oooohh so controversial.

 

[low preference guy]

oooohhhhh eric holder should be fired for his role in FandF. Oooohh so controversial.

oooooohhhhhhhhhhhh!!

 

[LibertyEsq]

oooohhhhh eric holder should be fired for his role in FandF. Oooohh so controversial.

ooooohhhhh im mocking people's concerns about an interview after more information has been revealed. Oooohh the ability to use hindsight makes me a genius

really childish

 

[jmdrake]

Obviously not, is this a discussion forum or a "only-say-things-I-agree-with-otherwise-I'll-call-you-a-coward" forum.

Affa didn't say that. And if you're still mad about the person who did get over it.

And I'm not saying we don't want AJ's audience's money, I'm saying it shouldn't be conditional on having Ron come on to discuss said issues.

It's not "conditional". Many give anyway. But Ron Paul going on the show certainly helps. There's this little thing called "motivation". In case you didn't know it, this forum isn't the entire campaign. I've gone to Ron Paul meetups and talked about moneybombs to hear people say "There's a moneybomb tomorrow?" The more something like this gets pushed in the more venues the better. I was on the Ron Paul call from home conference call the other night and someone asked "Would the campaign consider letting whoever makes the most calls for Ron have a 5 minute conversation with him"? Certainly a chance for a 5 minute conversation wouldn't be conditional for someone to make calls. But it could be a motivating factor. Maybe someone who might have done 1000 calls makes 2000. And from the moneybomb motivation, maybe someone AJ listener who was considering donating $50 decides to hold up on his next purchase of gold or storable food and donates $100 because he was motivated by what Ron said. Again, people much smarter than you or me have already looked at this and decided the benefits outweigh the risks.

That said, I was voicing my concerns BEFORE AJ confirmed he was talking about Fast and Furious and not 9/11, so I don't see why you still have a problem with my voicing concerns which have been somewhat alleviated. Who knows, maybe the collective concerns of us "anti-AJers" actually made a difference

Yeah. And after that when affa made a post that was NOT directed at you you went back into "I must attack the other side" mode. Why is that?

As for "anti-AJers" making a difference....don't flatter yourself. Ron has been smart enough not to say anything too controversial on AJ's show since the one time he did back in 2007. Most of the time on AJ's show he's said stuff that any mainstream conservative would agree with. It's the stuff he's said when he's NOT on AJ's show that has been a problem this time around.

If we have another moment like this it will hurt the campaign in my opinion:

We already had that moment:



Note that Ron was NOT on the Alex Jones show for that off script comment. Thankfully we survived it.

 

[LibertyEsq]

Again, people much smarter than you or me have already looked at this and decided the benefits outweigh the risks.



Yeah. And after that when affa made a post that was NOT directed at you you went back into "I must attack the other side" mode. Why is that?



We already had that moment:



Thankfully we survived it.

2 Things:

1. Are you kidding me? Who else was affa's post referring to? I'm not the one contributing to an "us against them" mindset in this thread, I was the one being attacked for raising concerns, apparently some AJ fans can't stand any form of criticism

2. That moment is nothing. He says he wanted to go after Bin Laden differently, so what? The "truther" moment from 2007 hurt him imo

 

[jabf2006]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to donnay again.

What do you mean by "spread some Reputation" and by "giving it to donnay"?