SWATH
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Hello all,
I have a 2 month old baby boy and we just got back from the pediatrician for his 2 month check up and scheduled vaccines. When he was first born I refused the Hep B for him, as I thought the risk of him contracting Hep B were so remote that giving a newborn baby a vaccine against it was ridiculous especially for a premee. Then at our 2 week appt. the pediatrician was asking why we didn't get the Hep B, to which I explained that we were uncomfortable with vaccinating him so young. She started into a semi rant about how vaccines are perfectly safe and the guy who said they weren't has lost his license and so on. At the 1 month appt. with another doctor we discussed our apprehension with the vaccine schedule and she was curious why. I went into the adjuvants, and Hg and Al and formaldehyde and knowingly injecting these things into an infant goes against what we believe. She listens and assured us that they are safe and there have been no evidence that they cause any harm and pointed to the many photocopies of articles taped the exam room walls talking about how there is no link between vaccines and autism and how autism is genetic. "You do know that they took the mercury out a long time ago right" she said, to which I replied "I do know that that is what they say, but I've read it was just a reduction not an elimination of it". She kind chuckled and said "oh you don't believe they took it out?". She vehemently insisted that they were safe and that there is a lot of misinformation about them that is causing a decline in vaccinations and the result of which is an increase in the number of infants that she treats with all the diseases that they are to protect against. She was very nice about it but very concerned pointing to her infant patients in intensive care and some that have died from preventable diseases and so on.
My wife is very conflicted about it but is heavily leaning in favor of vaccinating. One reason being is that her mother was an Ob nurse and strongly advises vaccination. I'm about to read another book on the dangers of not vaccinating. I have read 3 books written by pediatricians so far on the subject, one totally for vaccinations, one totally against, and one sort of in the middle. I have read tons of stuff online, mostly against, I have read all the conspiracies and soft kill stuff, all the natural stuff like from Mercola and NVIC, and all the stuff from the CDC. I read some stories of children who came down with some devastating illness like meningitis because the parents choose not to vaccinate them then promptly changed their minds and had all their other children vaccinated. I have also read stories of parents who chose to vaccinate only to have their child die or develop some neurological malady immediately after the shots were given.
Today at our 2 month visit we discussed vaccines again and we told the doctor that were were going to wait and delay giving any vaccines until we can further educate ourselves and be comfortable with a decision. She respected that and just informed us that he will be at some risk until he is vaccinated and spoke more of some of her infant patients in the hospital with diseases because they refused vaccines. She informed us that after some vaccines were introduced she saw marked reductions in cases of the disease to virtually nothing, and only now that more people are refusing them she is seeing more cases of the diseases. She also mentioned that at the 4 month visit a vaccine schedule must be agreed upon or they could no longer see him for his safety because they see patients with diseases and don't want an unvaccinated baby exposed. Before we left she just told us what symptoms to look for if he comes down with pertussis or rotavirus which are more common now and if we take him to the hospital to inform everyone there that he he has not been vaccinated.
So I am red eye from researching vaccines endlessly to come up with what we are going to do. My gut tells me not to vaccinate by my head says vaccinate at least on some level even if we selectively choose which vaccines and spread out the schedule. I did ask her which diseases are the most serious and the ones she would most recommend vaccinating against and I think there were 3 or 4, I can't remember them all but she marked them down. I'm not sure I'll get a completely objective discussion here because I know here it leans heavily against vaccination but give me your input anyway and discuss. I have until April to come up with something. Thanks
Update with pic:
I have a 2 month old baby boy and we just got back from the pediatrician for his 2 month check up and scheduled vaccines. When he was first born I refused the Hep B for him, as I thought the risk of him contracting Hep B were so remote that giving a newborn baby a vaccine against it was ridiculous especially for a premee. Then at our 2 week appt. the pediatrician was asking why we didn't get the Hep B, to which I explained that we were uncomfortable with vaccinating him so young. She started into a semi rant about how vaccines are perfectly safe and the guy who said they weren't has lost his license and so on. At the 1 month appt. with another doctor we discussed our apprehension with the vaccine schedule and she was curious why. I went into the adjuvants, and Hg and Al and formaldehyde and knowingly injecting these things into an infant goes against what we believe. She listens and assured us that they are safe and there have been no evidence that they cause any harm and pointed to the many photocopies of articles taped the exam room walls talking about how there is no link between vaccines and autism and how autism is genetic. "You do know that they took the mercury out a long time ago right" she said, to which I replied "I do know that that is what they say, but I've read it was just a reduction not an elimination of it". She kind chuckled and said "oh you don't believe they took it out?". She vehemently insisted that they were safe and that there is a lot of misinformation about them that is causing a decline in vaccinations and the result of which is an increase in the number of infants that she treats with all the diseases that they are to protect against. She was very nice about it but very concerned pointing to her infant patients in intensive care and some that have died from preventable diseases and so on.
My wife is very conflicted about it but is heavily leaning in favor of vaccinating. One reason being is that her mother was an Ob nurse and strongly advises vaccination. I'm about to read another book on the dangers of not vaccinating. I have read 3 books written by pediatricians so far on the subject, one totally for vaccinations, one totally against, and one sort of in the middle. I have read tons of stuff online, mostly against, I have read all the conspiracies and soft kill stuff, all the natural stuff like from Mercola and NVIC, and all the stuff from the CDC. I read some stories of children who came down with some devastating illness like meningitis because the parents choose not to vaccinate them then promptly changed their minds and had all their other children vaccinated. I have also read stories of parents who chose to vaccinate only to have their child die or develop some neurological malady immediately after the shots were given.
Today at our 2 month visit we discussed vaccines again and we told the doctor that were were going to wait and delay giving any vaccines until we can further educate ourselves and be comfortable with a decision. She respected that and just informed us that he will be at some risk until he is vaccinated and spoke more of some of her infant patients in the hospital with diseases because they refused vaccines. She informed us that after some vaccines were introduced she saw marked reductions in cases of the disease to virtually nothing, and only now that more people are refusing them she is seeing more cases of the diseases. She also mentioned that at the 4 month visit a vaccine schedule must be agreed upon or they could no longer see him for his safety because they see patients with diseases and don't want an unvaccinated baby exposed. Before we left she just told us what symptoms to look for if he comes down with pertussis or rotavirus which are more common now and if we take him to the hospital to inform everyone there that he he has not been vaccinated.
So I am red eye from researching vaccines endlessly to come up with what we are going to do. My gut tells me not to vaccinate by my head says vaccinate at least on some level even if we selectively choose which vaccines and spread out the schedule. I did ask her which diseases are the most serious and the ones she would most recommend vaccinating against and I think there were 3 or 4, I can't remember them all but she marked them down. I'm not sure I'll get a completely objective discussion here because I know here it leans heavily against vaccination but give me your input anyway and discuss. I have until April to come up with something. Thanks
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