To those who betrayed the movement today

It's sad how much hate, voting different than what people think you should, brings on.

There is way too much "Fuck You, traitor" being said today.

Rather we should say we respect your freedom to choose but we disagree, isn't that what democracy and liberty is all about?

something you haven't considered: obama has been saying FU to all of America!
 
How is adding +1 to a sum of voters for a no-chance third party cantidate helpful to the revolution.

In California where I live, Ron Paul is an official write in candidate, so presumably his votes will be counted and reported by the secretary of state. That's enough of a win for me in terms of the presidential race. Maybe that number of write-in votes will be surprisingly large and attract media attention, and that would certainly be "helpful to the revolution".
 
Original_Intent,

I voted for Baldwin today. (A write-in in PA)
I regret not writing in Ron Paul.

I'm still with you. It looks like there still are others as well.
 
I voted for Barr, stronger LP for the win! :)

And a big fuck you to everyone who calls me a traitor.
 
Now I understand the argument for voting third party and it is a good one. The idea is that slowly the percentage of third party voters will cause more and more people to vote third party as third party candidates are seen as more and more "viable" by the public as a whole. However the reality is that until the public is educated enough to vote for something other than their wish to support a family heirloom party, or based on a catchphrase we as thinking Americans cannot realistically expect a third party candidate to win.

The REAL reality is, if there is never a third party candidate with a good chance at winning, it is because people like you refuse to vote third party.

You say there won't be a major third party until the public is more educated. Well, they won't start learning about third parties until we all stand together and vote third party! Maybe then there would eventually be enough of us to have an impact and people would take notice and start learning. I refuse to be a party of the problem.

Okay, gonna try and calm myself down now...
 
How is adding +1 to a sum of voters for a no-chance third party candidate helpful to the revolution?

How is adding +1 to a sum of voters for a 100%-chance furtherance of socialism helpful to the revolution!?!?
 
Voted for Barr today. Still "with you" even though I'm not posting right now.
 
Dissapointed

The biggest disappointment is not the sheeple who voted for McBama, not by a long shot . The Matrix still has them, Neo.

Nope, the biggest disappointment is this: I came to this website 18 months ago and actually had some hope that this country had a chance. For so long I felt virtually alone, and it was SO GREAT to see so many people here that UNDERSTOOD, that had their eyes opened, that knew what I knew and felt what I felt!

Now a decent percentage of them are being asked to be inserted back into the Matrix, have their memory wiped. They are sheep not because they have been misled by the media, but because they have willfully chosen to be.

We were supposed to be the REMNANT, and too many of the remnant could not make even a POLITICAL stand for freedom, they succumbed to the fear-mongerers, they did not trust their inner wisdom. Most of "the populace" are pretty much zombies, they do their jobs, they get their SOMA in whatever form, they are herded like cattle and have little more awareness of what is REALLY going on in the world than cattle. I expected no better from them.

But today I am losing those I considered my brothers and sisters-in-arms, we who knew what we were up against, knew the odds were hugely against us and were determined to make a stand, once and for all FOR LIBERTY AND FOR EACH OTHER!

I am sure you felt like you did what was right when you did it, but this vote can never be taken back, you did not even have the courage to CAST A BALLOT for your convictions.

You may never feel you have the need to ask your fellow brothers and sisters for forgiveness, maybe you were moles from the start who never believed. If you ever wake up to a sense of your awful situation and do seek forgiveness you will have it. But it will still never uncast this cowardly and unworthy vote which you have allowed yourself to cast today.
I agree with Original_Intent 100%. I' m disheartened to say the least. Voting for McBama is a great discredit to the movement, and I am whole-heartedly saddened. We ARE the majority, as Dr. Paul has stated on numerous occasions. If we all voted third party, we would send a potent message to those who would see us enslaved. If we cave - well, we send an equally potent message - that we ARE willing to be led around by that insidious ring in our noses. Dr. paul told us to send a message by coming together and voting third party. Here is a clip - it starts around 7:30 in. Please listen and think... I fear for us. This was not the time to hesitate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqOpeRnvvNo
 
Supporting the movement is the only chance we have to succeed. This is exactly why the GOP and the DNC have millions of voters, and the Libertarians never do better than 5%.

I find it hard to believe that if you and yours couldn't even find a single 3rd party candidate to support in this 7th circle of hell election that you'll ever be much use to the C4L.

It's not like Ron Paul said "Vote For Baldwin!" He said "Vote third party, or don't vote!" but you couldn't even stomach that? You couldn't bear to vote for anybody except one of the two most dangerous candidates available? Even though your vote for them meant absolutely nothing to them?

WTF is wrong with you?

No WTF is wrong with you is a more appropriate question to ask. I voted for Nader. I was merely suggesting we should be open to different opinions instead of calling those with different opinions betrayers of the freedom movement. Because to do so is to go against liberty. Where in my post was the implication that people should only vote Demonican or Republicrat? I was merely being supportive of their choice. I wasn't recommending voting for McBama.
 
Of course they can vote for whoever they want, they will just have to accept the consequences of their actions, and those consequences include, but aren't limited to: war/murder, homelessness, loss of liberty, the destruction of our dollar and possibly even the destruction of America. They have the liberty to vote for whoever they want and we have the liberty to speak our mind about them intentionally casting a vote which will further destroy this country as we know it.

Right, they still have the freedom to vote as they choose. The consequences of a McBama victory affect everyone, not just their supporters.
 
Can we stop with the Matrix stuff? Honestly, it's getting retarded.

It is an accurate description.
But if you want to go classical, we can use Plato's cave for analogies if you like.
Anyone who lives in a fox news/cable news reality... is living in a matrix.
Don't have a clue what's going on around them.. and vote the way the tube tells them to vote.

Matrix references may be getting old to you... but it never will for me. Its the perfects description... or Plato's cave.
 
i wrote in Ron Paul/Gail Lightfoot in California. I walked home feeling pretty good. :)
 
I voted Paul in the primary! I gave my hard earned money!I spent a year campaigning for Paul!I voted against Jhon Mclame!
 
The biggest disappointment is not the sheeple who voted for McBama, not by a long shot . The Matrix still has them, Neo.

Nope, the biggest disappointment is this: I came to this website 18 months ago and actually had some hope that this country had a chance. For so long I felt virtually alone, and it was SO GREAT to see so many people here that UNDERSTOOD, that had their eyes opened, that knew what I knew and felt what I felt!

Now a decent percentage of them are being asked to be inserted back into the Matrix, have their memory wiped. They are sheep not because they have been misled by the media, but because they have willfully chosen to be.

We were supposed to be the REMNANT, and too many of the remnant could not make even a POLITICAL stand for freedom, they succumbed to the fear-mongerers, they did not trust their inner wisdom. Most of "the populace" are pretty much zombies, they do their jobs, they get their SOMA in whatever form, they are herded like cattle and have little more awareness of what is REALLY going on in the world than cattle. I expected no better from them.

But today I am losing those I considered my brothers and sisters-in-arms, we who knew what we were up against, knew the odds were hugely against us and were determined to make a stand, once and for all FOR LIBERTY AND FOR EACH OTHER!

I am sure you felt like you did what was right when you did it, but this vote can never be taken back, you did not even have the courage to CAST A BALLOT for your convictions.

You may never feel you have the need to ask your fellow brothers and sisters for forgiveness, maybe you were moles from the start who never believed. If you ever wake up to a sense of your awful situation and do seek forgiveness you will have it. But it will still never uncast this cowardly and unworthy vote which you have allowed yourself to cast today.



I voted for the man who started it all: Ron Paul write in.:D
 
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