To those who betrayed the movement today

[literatim]

I'm not the one doing the dividing. Much more progress will be made after today than will be made on this day. Goodbye.

You just betrayed the movement.

 

[Danke]

How is voting for evil and enslavement a strategic vote?

Don't you see? TPTB will never expect this from us, and it will confuse and foil their plans.

Don't you understand?




(now can someone explain it to me?)

 

[ProBlue33]

It's sad how much hate, voting different than what people think you should, brings on.

There is way too much "Fuck You, traitor" being said today.

Rather we should say we respect your freedom to choose but we disagree, isn't that what democracy and liberty is all about?

 

[vodalian]

You are free to vote for whoever you want, but if you vote for McCain or Obama, then you have to also be prepared to take partial responsibility for the countless loss of lives, homes and the destruction of the dollar. Let's just say that I hope you don't have a conscious, but then again if you did, you wouldn't see politics as a big game.

 

[angelatc]

I'm not the one doing the dividing. Much more progress will be made after today than will be made on this day. Goodbye.

If you voted for a mainstream candidate, you deviated from the plan that Ron Paul suggested we follow, and your vote weakened our effort. That is division.

 

[Danke]

It's sad how much hate, voting different than what people think you should, brings on.

There is way too much "Fuck You, traitor" being said today.

Rather we should say we respect your freedom to choose but we disagree, isn't that what democracy and liberty is all about?

If you didn't support Obama, maybe there would be less hate.

 

[Mini-Me]

I agree.

The point of my OP is not to tell those who betrayed the movement (and themselves) to GET OUT.

It is an intentionally harsh statement of YOU FUCKED UP AND DEEP DOWN YOU KNOW IT.

IMNSHO, giving sympathy or understanding for their reasons of their betrayal hurts them and hurts us. Why bother defending the indefensible?

I totally understand how you feel...like a parent scolding errant children or something.

 

[Original_Intent]

I don't feel hate.

What is sad is to see people who are part of a movement in which certainly a central theme that we projected to others was that voting the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil, and the only wasted voted was an unprincipled one.

These were central ideas that we spread to try and wake people up. So certainly you can understand the disappointemnt when these people who clearly "Got it" panic at the last moment and do exactly what THEY THEMSELVES have been telling tohers for the last year or longer that they must not do at all costs.

I am glad that Josh pointed out that it appears that only about 7% reverted, and hopefully some of that 7% will eventually wake up and understand just how badly they screwed up today.

 

[angelatc]

If you didn't support Obama, maybe there would be less hate.

Socialists are always saying crap like that. "If you guys would just see it my way, we'd all get along!" "We have to put aside all this partsian stuff and get something done!"

I swear, nobody who ever utters those type statements has ever conceded on a single issue. They just use it as a lube.

I'd LOL, but it's not funny. It is maddening.

 

[Theocrat]

Explanation

Don't you see? TPTB will never expect this from us, and it will confuse and foil their plans.

Don't you understand?




(now can someone explain it to me?)

Yeah, it's like when the affirmative derivatives are exchanged in a global spectral field, then the travel of Watts will function on constant tangents. This results in a quadraphonic stimulus of broken particles falling upon spaghetti spools in a weighted average tundrum of epic proportions. Thus, the vox populi accelerates in faint decibels while the rotational inertia of galactic reticulum is abated under severe pressure of total cataclysmic sporadic tertiary time fragments of human potential.

I hope that clears up any confusion!

 

[Original_Intent]

If you voted for a mainstream candidate, you deviated from the plan that Ron Paul suggested we follow, and your vote weakened our effort. That is division.

This. It can't be put any more briefly or clearly.

 

[dawnbt]

Baldwin vote here plus drafted two last minute Baldwin voters!!

 

[Danke]

Yeah, it's like when the affirmative derivatives are exchanged in a global spectral field, then the travel of Watts will function on constant tangents. This results in a quadraphonic stimulus of broken particles falling upon spaghetti spools in a weighted average tundrum of epic proportions. Thus, the vox populi accelerates in faint decibels while the rotational inertia of galactic reticulum is abated under severe pressure of total cataclysmic sporadic tertiary time fragments of human potential.

I hope that clears up any confusion!

Most indubitably!

 

[mitty]

The biggest disappointment is not the sheeple who voted for McBama, not by a long shot . The Matrix still has them, Neo.

Nope, the biggest disappointment is this: I came to this website 18 months ago and actually had some hope that this country had a chance. For so long I felt virtually alone, and it was SO GREAT to see so many people here that UNDERSTOOD, that had their eyes opened, that knew what I knew and felt what I felt!

Now a decent percentage of them are being asked to be inserted back into the Matrix, have their memory wiped. They are sheep not because they have been misled by the media, but because they have willfully chosen to be.

We were supposed to be the REMNANT, and too many of the remnant could not make even a POLITICAL stand for freedom, they succumbed to the fear-mongerers, they did not trust their inner wisdom. Most of "the populace" are pretty much zombies, they do their jobs, they get their SOMA in whatever form, they are herded like cattle and have little more awareness of what is REALLY going on in the world than cattle. I expected no better from them.

But today I am losing those I considered my brothers and sisters-in-arms, we who knew what we were up against, knew the odds were hugely against us and were determined to make a stand, once and for all FOR LIBERTY AND FOR EACH OTHER!

I am sure you felt like you did what was right when you did it, but this vote can never be taken back, you did not even have the courage to CAST A BALLOT for your convictions.

You may never feel you have the need to ask your fellow brothers and sisters for forgiveness, maybe you were moles from the start who never believed. If you ever wake up to a sense of your awful situation and do seek forgiveness you will have it. But it will still never uncast this cowardly and unworthy vote which you have allowed yourself to cast today.

holy crap!

+10000000000000000

 

[josephadel_3]

Come on, guy. People can vote for whoever they want. That doesn't make them sheep. Most of them are, but for different reasons. Supporting liberty means supporting dissent among movements and everywhere.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

I am fairly convinced now that third parties won't get anywhere. I fully intend to remain in the GOP , like my leader Ron Paul, who has NOT stepped out of the Republican Party..who REMAINS in congress, and work to change hearts and minds within my party. When Dr. Paul resigns from the Republican Party..and either starts his own third party or joins another third party I will follow. TONES

 

[angelatc]

Come on, guy. People can vote for whoever they want. That doesn't make them sheep. Most of them are, but for different reasons. Supporting liberty means supporting dissent among movements and everywhere.

Supporting the movement is the only chance we have to succeed. This is exactly why the GOP and the DNC have millions of voters, and the Libertarians never do better than 5%.

I find it hard to believe that if you and yours couldn't even find a single 3rd party candidate to support in this 7th circle of hell election that you'll ever be much use to the C4L.

It's not like Ron Paul said "Vote For Baldwin!" He said "Vote third party, or don't vote!" but you couldn't even stomach that? You couldn't bear to vote for anybody except one of the two most dangerous candidates available? Even though your vote for them meant absolutely nothing to them?

WTF is wrong with you?

 

[enjerth]

I am fairly convinced now that third parties won't get anywhere. I fully intend to remain in the GOP , like my leader Ron Paul, who has NOT stepped out of the Republican Party..who REMAINS in congress, and work to change hearts and minds within my party. When Dr. Paul resigns from the Republican Party..and either starts his own third party or joins another third party I will follow. TONES

That's exactly what I intend to do.

But as surely as Ron Paul did not vote for the Republican nominee, neither did I.

Just because you haven't left the party doesn't mean you have to vote for their candidates.

 

[vodalian]

Come on, guy. People can vote for whoever they want. That doesn't make them sheep. Most of them are, but for different reasons. Supporting liberty means supporting dissent among movements and everywhere.

Of course they can vote for whoever they want, they will just have to accept the consequences of their actions, and those consequences include, but aren't limited to: war/murder, homelessness, loss of liberty, the destruction of our dollar and possibly even the destruction of America. They have the liberty to vote for whoever they want and we have the liberty to speak our mind about them intentionally casting a vote which will further destroy this country as we know it.

 

[Original_Intent]

I am fairly convinced now that third parties won't get anywhere. I fully intend to remain in the GOP , like my leader Ron Paul, who has NOT stepped out of the Republican Party..who REMAINS in congress, and work to change hearts and minds within my party. When Dr. Paul resigns from the Republican Party..and either starts his own third party or joins another third party I will follow. TONES

You can remain in the GOP and still vote your conscience, I hope.

I hope Ron Paul remaining in the GOP does not mean he felt an obligation to vote for McCain.

C'mon Tones you know and I know that Ron Paul could not and would not do that, he openly stated that he could not support his own party's candidate because of his principles.

DO NOT DARE invoke the name of Ron Paul as some kind of excuse for voting McCain. Certainly it is wise to continue to work within the GOP as Ron Paul has, I certainly am not arguing otherwise - but when you walk into that voting booth that is not about "working within the party", that is you, your conscience and a ballot. Working within the GOP is no excuse for voting for McCain, and if you are going to try to use Ron Paul as an example to defend YOUR indefensible actions then you should be prepared to walk his walk.