To Ron Paul's Atheist supporters....

[brandon]

and God hates meat on meat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNJrCz62cyA

haha!!

 

[MN Patriot]

Now the anti-Ron Paul people will say: "look at all the atheists who support Ron Paul!"

Another smear in the making. Everyone knows that atheists are much worse than white superemists and neo-nazi's.

I'm agnostic myself, so relax.

 

[MooCowzRock]

Again, there is absolutely not a single reason for an Atheist to NOT support Paul, because of their views on religion and evolution(ALSO, evolution is not just an Atheist view, its pretty much supported by most Christians, the entire Catholic church, and most people in the US).

Why? Because despite his view of evolution, it has nothing to do with what his actions would be as president! Its just a personal belief!

 

[S3eker]

I'm an athiest and I don't care in what Ron Paul believes in. I care about the message more than the man. He gets my vote regardless.

Now, would the religious vote for Ron Paul if he was athiest?

 

[mconder]

I have my suspicions that the foul language on this site comes from the non-religious Ron Paul supporters more often that those of faith. This is my only gripe with the agnostics and atheists is that they could have at least a small measure of respect for their religious friends and abstain from using the F word every 2 seconds. Other than that, I could care less what God(s) you worship or no God(s) at all.

 

[angelatc]

God hates athiests

I thought God loved everybody?

 

[Kade]

God hates athiests

Is this anything like the Easter Bunny hating Elmer Fudd?

 

[Mom4Ron]

I have my suspicions that the foul language on this site comes from the non-religious Ron Paul supporters more often that those of faith. This is my only gripe with the agnostics and atheists is that they could have at least a small measure of respect for their religious friends and abstain from using the F word every 2 seconds. Other than that, I could care less what God(s) you worship or no God(s) at all.

I don't know about that. I visit some other forums, where most of the posters are some brand of Christianity or another, and they are some of the most vulgar folks I've ever had the displeasure to read.

I've actually been called a prudish schoolmarm by Christians when I object to their constant innuendo.

As to the topic at hand, as an agnostic who leans toward atheism, as long as he continues to recognize and respect the restraints that the constitution places on the federal government, then he can believe in whatever he wants.

 

[Thomas Paine]

I have my suspicions that the foul language on this site comes from the non-religious Ron Paul supporters more often that those of faith. This is my only gripe with the agnostics and atheists is that they could have at least a small measure of respect for their religious friends and abstain from using the F word every 2 seconds. Other than that, I could care less what God(s) you worship or no God(s) at all.

"When [Clare Booth] Luce notice a Bible on [General] Patton's camp table, she asked excitedly, 'General, do you read the Bible?' 'Every goddamned day,' he replied." -- from "I was with Patton: First-Person Accounts of WWII in George S. Patton's Command" by D.A. Lande.

 

[Kade]

Again, there is absolutely not a single reason for an Atheist to NOT support Paul, because of their views on religion and evolution(ALSO, evolution is not just an Atheist view, its pretty much supported by most Christians, the entire Catholic church, and most people in the US).

Why? Because despite his view of evolution, it has nothing to do with what his actions would be as president! Its just a personal belief!

I still support, but don't say there is not a reason for Atheists to be wary. Ron Paul's voting record has supported laws that force the non-religious to support government officials promotion of religion, and to trump world views, like an amendment supporting a definition of human life.

This absolutism here, and the fanaticism presented by supporters is growing increasing scary. Why don't you guys start holding up signs that read:

"Agree with Ron Paul, or you hate freedom."

That is what all of you are implying.

 

[1000-points-of-fright]

And yes... Atheism is a religion. Repeat that over and over again... because that is what Ron Paul believes.

No, it's not. It pisses me off to no end when people say this. It's a cheap attempt to make religion and atheism intellectually equal. It goes something like this.. atheists think religion is stupid therefore if atheism is a religion it's stupid too... ha, gotcha. No, wrong.

Religions involves belief in some sort of divinity or supreme creator and is constrained by dogma and ritual. Therefore, atheism cannot be a religion. It's simply a concept. Some may be overly zealous in their atheism, but it's NOT a religion. It has no dogma or rituals. It's not even a philosophy.

Hell, Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion and it trumps atheism as far as ritual and dogma.

FYI: I'm an agnostic so none of this matters to me. I think that anyone who is absolutely sure one way or the other is supremely arrogant.

 

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Atheists are free to voice our opinions about the campaign. Half (or more!) of the people on this message board are atheists.

 

[ExpatinArgentina]

I'm Buddhist and welcome you all! Peace and love baby!

 

[barcop]

No, it's not. It pisses me off to no end when people say this. It's a cheap attempt to make religion and atheism intellectually equal. It goes something like this.. atheists think religion is stupid therefore if atheism is a religion it's stupid too... ha, gotcha. No, wrong.

Religions involves belief in some sort of divinity or supreme creator and is constrained by dogma and ritual. Therefore, atheism cannot be a religion. It's simply a concept. Some may be overly zealous in their atheism, but it's NOT a religion. It has no dogma or rituals. It's not even a philosophy.

Hell, Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion and it trumps atheism as far as ritual and dogma.

FYI: I'm an agnostic so none of this matters to me. I think that anyone who is absolutely sure one way or the other is supremely arrogant.

Sorry to have pissed you off to no end... but the definition of religion is not confined to what you think it is. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion

Anyway... the OP was not meant to start more arguing. As an Atheist... I didn't understand why other Atheists would be making posts saying they were going to jump ship and stop supporting him just because of Ron Paul's comments about evolution. That's all.

GO RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Now, would the religious vote for Ron Paul if he was athiest?

Who cares?

I have my suspicions that the foul language on this site comes from the non-religious Ron Paul supporters more often that those of faith. This is my only gripe with the agnostics and atheists is that they could have at least a small measure of respect for their religious friends and abstain from using the F word every 2 seconds. Other than that, I could care less what God(s) you worship or no God(s) at all.

Awww, man. I don't cuss online that much at all, as it rarely helps get a point accross. In friendly company, I must have an f word popping out every few sentences.

I do, though, think your request for more friendly language is appropriate, and I'd certainly accept that in person as well. I'm more bothered when people start threads trying to tell everyone what they should or shouldn't talk about.

This quote is from another thread and it sums things up quite nicely.

We didn't get this far by working together, we got this far together by working independently. And that is what the other campaigns can not understand.

So, all of these thread requests for "togetherness" isn't even helpful, IMO. It's what we're doing here that's important, not the differences we all have. Those sorts of threads make it sound like the differences are important.

 

[Sey.Naci]

As an Atheist... I am asking you to please stop the division you are creating between us and Christian (or any other religion) supporters over these pointless arguements of evolution and seperation of church and state.

Ron Paul is a Christian... and has Christian beliefs... but he is not now or never would be like the "Christian Leader" Huckabee. But he does believe in his freedom of speech and liberty to have his Christian beliefs. If you want us to have the same freedom of speech and liberty about Atheism... then you must respect him and other Christians.

We can live together... if we only do what Ron Paul has been fighting for all along... respect the Constitution. As an Atheist... I have absolutely 100% confidence that Ron Paul will fight for my freedom of liberty... just as much as he would for any Christian.

Congress shall make no law for or against any religion. And yes... Atheism is a religion. Repeat that over and over again... because that is what Ron Paul believes.

Either you want individual freedom and liberty to believe in anything you want and allow others the same freedom... or you do not. If you do not... then Ron Paul is not the right canidate for you.

Why are you blaming atheists for this? I'm an atheist and haven't raised a peep about the evolution kerfuffle.

There are Christians who accept evolution too, you know, and any number of other people who hold differing theological and non-theological world views. They could as easily be among those inquiring about Dr. Paul's position as a few atheists.

Not to mention that among those for whom this appears to be a "hot button issue," are, without doubt, moles from other camps.
.

 

[literatim]

No, it's not. It pisses me off to no end when people say this. It's a cheap attempt to make religion and atheism intellectually equal. It goes something like this.. atheists think religion is stupid therefore if atheism is a religion it's stupid too... ha, gotcha. No, wrong.

Just because you deny that it is a religion, doesn't mean it isn't.

Religions involves belief in some sort of divinity or supreme creator and is constrained by dogma and ritual. Therefore, atheism cannot be a religion. It's simply a concept. Some may be overly zealous in their atheism, but it's NOT a religion. It has no dogma or rituals. It's not even a philosophy.

Atheism has its own dogma, that being, a higher power of some sort didn't create everything and thus every living thing had to evolve from primordial scum.

Hell, Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion and it trumps atheism as far as ritual and dogma.

religion n. 1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

 

[Liberty Star]

Atheist supporters are not creating problems as such, this kind of discussion will not help.

 

[Wendi]

I agree with the original post. You could probably reverse "Christian" and "Atheist" or even insert any other religion you wish, and have the same powerful message. Freedom is freedom - and it applies to everyone equally. That's the whole point.

 

[Seanmc30]

God hates athiests

Maybe, but in conversations about freedom in the United States, God's opinion is not supposed to be involved.