to people who say RP doesn't speak well.

[ceitniear]

Ron Paul speaks the way he does because his brain works faster than his mouth does, which is completely unlike any of the other candidates whose mouths run far faster than their brains.

I find it refreshing.

 

[Created4]

People need to honestly admit that Ron Paul's strength is NOT in the debates, but then chill out and also realize that he IS an effective communicator in other mediums. I think the debates are over-emphasized. Who really makes decisions based on these debates?? People who research will get the total message, and those who use the Internet will see better ideas communicated than ANY of the other candidates with the plethora of videos and such on Dr. Paul.

And Dr. Paul does VERY well in one on one interviews, and he is starting to get A LOT of those, partly because people are incensed at Fox (the best thing that has happened to the campaign so far, and maybe the turning point!) Look at the Bill Moyer interview - great! Tonight with Blitzer, a repeat of the Glen Beck show, and then Monday with Jay Leno. These people are giving Dr. Paul BETTER exposure than the debates, so let's not get so bent out of shape on the debates. Those who want to know the issues and seek the truth will find it. If anything, the debates clearly show that Dr. Paul is totally different than everyone else, and that is good exposure at this point. If Dr. Paul becomes the front-runner at some point, he may even want to start limiting his involvement in the debates and stick with his strengths. He would have good reason to do so the way people have treated him. But at this point, it is all about getting the message out.

 

[ErikBlack]

I'm usually a bit critical about Dr. Paul's presentation, but I thought he did very well in last night's debate. Even though he had the usual tendencies to bumble his words and speak too quickly one thing he succeeded in beautifully is creating a clear line of distinction between himself and the other candidates.

There are two types of Republicans watching. The first type is head-in-the-sand, stay-the-course, party loyalists who gobble up every turd Bush and Cheney launch at them and would love nothing more than 8 more years of the same Republicanism we have now. These people know that they have 5 good choices for president who will all serve their agenda just fine. They may prefer Thompson for his folksy old-fashioned tone or Huckabee because he's a preacher, but what they really like is the Republican party establishment. They don't desire the buzzword of the night (change) because they think everything is just dandy right now!

The other type is those who do not like the current administration and do want change. For them, their only choice is Ron Paul! Whether or not they like him or some of his more eccentric policies, he is the only candidate on the stage who proposed even a slightly different ideology than the current administration. All of the other candidates refuse to criticize the current administration on any issue greater than the timing of the surge in Iraq! The Republican party is blinded by their own bullshit. They actually believe that they have the right idea and that the American people are going to go along with them on this ride. Either that, or they know something we don't, such as the elections are rigged. Or a third possibility, maybe they are pandering to the Republican base to win the nomination and then plan to switch positions in the general election to compete.

Ron Paul stood out as the only unique one among 5 clones who not only didn't bring any new ideas to the table but acted terribly rude and childish! The major Republican candidates need to take a lesson from the Democrats on how to handle themselves with dignity in a Presidential debate. They reminded me of a gang of" good-ol-boy" school bullies picking on the smart kid. All that's missing is a cooler of beers, a monster truck and some books and homework papers strewed on the ground and the scene would be complete. The Democrats are full of shit, but at least they appear to have a genuine respect for each other. I actually felt bad for Mitt Romney for having to endure the repeated personal attacks from McCain! He was like the littlest of the bullies who just desperately wants to fit in, but when the group gets bored of taunting the nerd they turn on him for further amusement! It looked like he was going to cry a few times there!

 

[seapilot]

Communication is a very important skill to have as a president. You are dealing with heads of state, squabbling factions in the Congress and other people all the time.

If he can't get a simple point across calmly so that it is understood then most people will not be attracted to his candidacy.

Yes I agree, George W. Bush has great communication skills. You are evil! We will prevail! The enemy is dangerous and so are we! Regime change! Its all rhetoric to look like they know what they are talking about and to the uneducated, misinformed, apathetic population cant recite what they meant but they sounded good!

Yes Ron Paul should treat these debates like he is talking to one of his greatgrand kids then most the populace would understand his positions better. The most intelligent people in the populace already do, hence they are Ron Paul supporters, or are afraid of him.

 

[Todd McGreevy]

I do support him 100%, but I still wish he had some better coaching. I don't mean pandering. But, Paul doesn't have time to teach an economics or history course, and most people aren't interested, anyway.

For instance...

Dr. Paul, what about blah blah healthcare?

The first words out of his mouth should be. "I've been a practicing doctor for over 50 years. In that time, I've delivered over 4,000 babies, so I know a lot about the healthcare system in general and how it works." Then he can move on to his points.

It's often not enough to tell people what you know. He needs to tell people why he knows it, so they're receptive to his answers in the first place. The same goes for plenty of other issues. He should also be pointing out his record more often on a number of issues.

This is dead on!
With $19M in his war chest, the RP Campaign has NO excuses for not having a gaggle of media savvy researchists and speech coaches at Ron Paul's side...
He has done all the heavy lifting up to now, inspiring all of us with his deeds for 10 terms...

Pick ANY topic and he should be able to explain why he is an expert in it in 15 seconds and then go on to a) current situation and b) what he will do to fix it.

Sadly, he has to learn how to parse these things in order to penetrate the dumbed down mind of Americans... he can't just preach to the converted anymore.

What I have witnessed is that when people are able to understand what he is saying, they want more and are very easily turned into RP supporters.

If these enhancements to Dr. Paul's public presentations don't take place then his campaign staff have only themselves to blame... and what a shame, Dr. Paul has more gun powder in knowledge and experience and a voting record to prove it than any candidate who has run in last 20 years!

www.ronpaulringtones.org

 

[Ball]

Ron rushed his message. He should have taken his time like the Huckster.

Delivery counts more than substance, unfortunately.

 

[wowabunga]

so what if he gets a bit jumbled.
he's a 70 year old man who is being attacked constantly by total assholes.

There was one streatch in the debate where he was on a real roll. He spoke about politicians who give mere "lip service" to the Constitution. At one point he's rolling full steam and McCain is caught on camera smirking his arse off... right up to the second when Ron finishes his comment and tells the country we are going broke. McCain's smirk runs off his face.

I stayed up all night and produced a video highlighting Ron's catch phrase "No More Lip Service" and this is the short version... enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GALT2VXq4YQ

Peace and Joy,
Ramblin Randy

 

[Todd McGreevy]

People need to honestly admit that Ron Paul's strength is NOT in the debates, but then chill out and also realize that he IS an effective communicator in other mediums. I think the debates are over-emphasized. Who really makes decisions based on these debates?? People who research will get the total message, and those who use the Internet will see better ideas communicated than ANY of the other candidates with the plethora of videos and such on Dr. Paul.

And Dr. Paul does VERY well in one on one interviews, and he is starting to get A LOT of those, partly because people are incensed at Fox (the best thing that has happened to the campaign so far, and maybe the turning point!) Look at the Bill Moyer interview - great! Tonight with Blitzer, a repeat of the Glen Beck show, and then Monday with Jay Leno. These people are giving Dr. Paul BETTER exposure than the debates, so let's not get so bent out of shape on the debates. Those who want to know the issues and seek the truth will find it. If anything, the debates clearly show that Dr. Paul is totally different than everyone else, and that is good exposure at this point. If Dr. Paul becomes the front-runner at some point, he may even want to start limiting his involvement in the debates and stick with his strengths. He would have good reason to do so the way people have treated him. But at this point, it is all about getting the message out.

Well said.
But even on those one on one appearances, his candidacy would do well to hone in on a) why he is THE expert on a particular topic b) what's wrong now and c) what he will DO to fix it.
It's not easy to do, if it was everyone would be doing it...

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Well said.
But even on those one on one appearances, his candidacy would do well to hone in on a) why he is THE expert on a particular topic b) what's wrong now and c) what he will DO to fix it.
It's not easy to do, if it was everyone would be doing it...

It's easier for Paul than the others, because he actually understands the issues, and *can* respond to intelligent and more in-depth questioning.

If you look at how some of the other candidates preface their openings, they do a pretty good job. Even Rudy... "I was there on 9-11, and I saw blah blah, so blah blah blah." Rudy's an asshat, but people start listening when you tell them why they should listen. (and that's true whether it's a valid reason or not. Ron has valid reasons.) Here's an interesting link for the scholars out there: http://books.google.com/books?id=z3...ts=fgTHPaKwXT&sig=rILrKW7Zmdpn72TgSJjQzzgKczY


I only saw a portion of the democratic debate, but Hillary and Edwards are very good at that.

I'd also love to see Ron start a lot of statements with "Here's where I differ from everyone else you'll hear from tonight." That's not because I want to see him become one of them... some slick politician, but because it's true and he has a record to prove it.

 

[USAF Vet Dan]

Depends on your perspective

Let's be real, compared to the other candidates, his performance is poor.

Two things to consider: First, Ron Paul comes off as the antithesis of Mitt "Joe Isuzu" Romney's plasticized, over-polished persona that's associated with a flip-flopping panderer. By contrast, Ron Paul comes off as a "real" person... a "Mr. Smith goes to Washington". Secondly, because of Ron Paul's absence of casting petty attacks at his opponents, he is perceived by many as having character.

Yes, Ron sometimes has a tendency to run through his positions too quickly and thereby fails to make his points as clearly as he could / should (a reaction to getting only a fraction of mike-time). He could improve here. And, yes, there are many shallow-minded Americans who have been brainwashed into voting for image and stage presence in lieu of substance. While that will cost him some votes, keep in mind that many Americans are waking up. For those who are awake, the only thing that matters is the substance of the candidate. If you've been in this battle as long as I have (20 years), you'll know that there truly is a Revolution taking place. Its up to you and me to make sure that as many people are "enlightened".

Will there be enough of the "enlightened" to put Ron Paul in the White House? Who know? We can only do what we can do. The important thing is that we are doing it. ...and that damned sure beats the alternative!

 

[WilliamC]

Ron Paul speaks the way he does because his brain works faster than his mouth does, which is completely unlike any of the other candidates whose mouths run far faster than their brains.

I find it refreshing.

Very true, but unfortunately the average person doesn't hear it this way. But it's too late to want to change Ron Paul's presentation at this late date, and no one who supports his message will let this dissuade them.

 

[Lyn]

I have been working on my mom in AZ for some time now. She is a Democrat but she has very libertarian leanings. She was very excited about Ron after she saw the Bill Moyer interview and really wants to vote for him. I had her watch the ABC debate and she was so impressed with how Ron handled himself despite the ganging up he got. She is 63 and her husband is 75 and they both were inspired by not only his ideas but his holding up under the juvenile and arrogant attacks of the others. He definitely may not be the best orator but he appeals to people as a regular person who is not all fluff. Real people with a brain don't want to pick a President who is slick and too polished.
Unfortunately, despite my mom's agreement with Ron, she told me she will not change her party to Republican on Monday the deadline in Az. She feels it would lock her out of voting for other local Democratic candidates. I did my best and tried to convince her how important it is but no go. Promises that she'll vote for him in the general election. That is a big frustration for me right now. My stepdad is registered Repub. so I got at least his vote for Ron in the AZ primary. Oh, well.

 

[curiousobserver]

who said he can't speak well?

so what if he gets a bit jumbled.

he's a 70 year old man who is being attacked constantly by total assholes.

we should support him 100 percent.

he is the only person who makes sense. who said he can't speak well?

 

[Thanehand]

For instance...

Dr. Paul, what about blah blah healthcare?

The first words out of his mouth should be. "I've been a practicing doctor for over 50 years. In that time, I've delivered over 4,000 babies, so I know a lot about the healthcare system in general and how it works." Then he can move on to his points.

It's often not enough to tell people what you know. He needs to tell people why he knows it, so they're receptive to his answers in the first place. The same goes for plenty of other issues. He should also be pointing out his record more often on a number of issues.

And he would have been cut off before getting to those points. It's happened in every debate. He gets an EXTREMELY disproportionate amount of time to speak and is forced (as already mentioned) to speak quickly.

My wife and sister both (both fairly new supporters) clearly see this and complain because he doesn't GET the chance to explain anything beyond a sound bite length of time.

 

[USAF Vet Dan]

I think you're assumption is incorrect!

I have been working on my mom in AZ for some time now. She is a Democrat but she has very libertarian leanings. She was very excited about Ron after she saw the Bill Moyer interview and really wants to vote for him. I had her watch the ABC debate and she was so impressed with how Ron handled himself despite the ganging up he got. She is 63 and her husband is 75 and they both were inspired by not only his ideas but his holding up under the juvenile and arrogant attacks of the others. He definitely may not be the best orator but he appeals to people as a regular person who is not all fluff. Real people with a brain don't want to pick a President who is slick and too polished.
Unfortunately, despite my mom's agreement with Ron, she told me she will not change her party to Republican on Monday the deadline in Az. She feels it would lock her out of voting for other local Democratic candidates. I did my best and tried to convince her how important it is but no go. Promises that she'll vote for him in the general election. That is a big frustration for me right now. My stepdad is registered Repub. so I got at least his vote for Ron in the AZ primary. Oh, well.

Voting Republican in the primary should not affect her ability to vote for other Democrats (except for presidential candidates). If AZ has more offices up for election, you will get two ballots when you go to vote - one either Repub or Dem ballot for the presidential primary election and one for the other offices. That second ballot will have both Republican and Democratic candidates.

 

[SevenEyedJeff]

I wish people would wake up and realize, image and charisma does NOT MATTER!!!

What MATTERS are the issues and actual voting record! And who has the best vision for liberty and freedom in America. No one is better than Ron Paul on these!