Michele Bachmann to Huckabee: I don't hate Muslims but Iran hates Jews & Americans

[asurfaholic]

Fixed

I lol'd

 

[Brett85]

I think you should take your concern trolling elsewhere.

Ron isn't stupid. He wouldn't say it on national TV if it wasn't true. She spews hate against muslims everytime she opens here mouth. Ron didn't say anything new or shocking.

Having Ron simply cater to his hard core supporters isn't going to get him anywhere. The more Ron does that, the more he alienates everyone else. Just look at the comments over at free republic regarding this issue. There were three or four people who were Ron Paul supporters before he said this, but his comments on Leno's show caused them to withdraw their support for Ron. Ron needs to reach out to more people, not just preach to the choir. This is just common sense.

 

[bluesc]

Having Ron simply cater to his hard core supporters isn't going to get him anywhere. The more Ron does that, the more he alienates everyone else. Just look at the comments over at free republic regarding this issue. There were three or four people who were Ron Paul supporters before he said this, but his comments on Leno's show caused them to withdraw their support for Ron. Ron needs to reach out to more people, not just preach to the choir. This is just common sense.

Look at the comments on Free Republic every time Ron opens his mouth. It's nothing new.

I'm pretty sure there is a Ron Paul supporter trolling somewhere saying "I used to support Newt, but when he said xxxx I switched to Ron Paul. I now realize he is the only honest one in the race" every time Newt says something. Welcome to the internet.

 

[jmdrake]

Ahmadinejad has about as much power in Iran as I do.

QFT

 

[rideurlightning]

Her stance on Mullahs proves her racism.

 

[gmc1988]

Ahmadinejad is the 21st century Hitler. You are a Jew-hating genocide supporter if you don't want to go to war with him. Not defending either Ahmadinejad or Hitler, but the propaganda being used is outrageous. These people want war with Iran, and they will stop at nothing to get it!!!!!

 

[Freelance_Philosopher]

Ron's remark was anything but a "joke," and I don't think he'd ever characterize it as one. It was the most grave comment of the interview, and shows that he's the only one that feels, as a human being, how hateful and evil Bachmann is.

He could have said, “I agree with her on several domestic issues, but we disagree on foreign policy.” Instead, he simply made no effort to hide his contempt and disgust at her racist bloodlust. He demonstrated his deeply felt principles and compassion, that the lives of innocents are his utmost concern, and that her desire to murder overrides any commonalities they might have. Paul can’t win by continuing to allow people like her and the MSM to hide behind Orwellian euphemisms like “foreign policy”—his aim is to change the people’s perceptions to conform with reality: that her “foreign policy” is actually a base, racist urge to murder on a mass scale.

This is what makes him an extraordinary straight-shooter, teacher, and leader, as opposed to merely a capable candidate and politician.

 

[Ronulus]

She doesn't hate muslims, she hates all brown people regardless of their faith.

 

[flightlesskiwi]

Ron's remark was anything but a "joke," and I don't think he'd ever characterize it as one. It was the most grave comment of the interview, and shows that he's the only one that feels, as a human being, how hateful and evil Bachmann is.

He could have said, “I agree with her on several domestic issues, but we disagree on foreign policy.” Instead, he simply made no effort to hide his contempt and disgust at her racist bloodlust. He demonstrated his deeply felt principles and compassion, that the lives of innocents are his utmost concern, and that her desire to murder overrides any commonalities they might have. Paul can’t win by continuing to allow people like her and the MSM to hide behind Orwellian euphemisms like “foreign policy”—his aim is to change the people’s perceptions to conform with reality: that her “foreign policy” is actually a base, racist urge to murder on a mass scale.

This is what makes him an extraordinary straight-shooter, teacher, and leader, as opposed to merely a capable candidate and politician.

ding ding ding, we have a winner!!!

Well, personally, Ron saying that made my year.

Imagine taking the time to put your support behind someone to get them re elected, imagine spending personal time discussing liberty rich ideas with that person thinking you have an ally in the fight against big gubment. and then imagine them going bat poo crazy and running against you on a foreign policy that REEKS of neoconservative bs. I'd be pretty pissed.

I love Ron even more for what he said. You can't love people and want to bomb the **** out of them at the same time. That woman is a fear mongering pyscho-hosebeast. Santorum too. I'm sick and tired of fear and hatred being the prevailing attitude of this society.

edit: i support Ron in his fight against hatred and fear.

 

[PierzStyx]

The content of my post is called knowing how to think for other people rather than automatically assuming that everyone thinks what you think, so your little cutesy statement implying that I'm a troll or anti-Paul simply because I'm capable of knowing that most Republicans do not like Muslims because of 9-11 is pretty lame. Paul bashing another candidate for hating Muslims opens the door to Republican media painting Paul as a pro-Muslim lefty and I fail to see how that brings in votes in the Republican primaries. The other aspect of this issue is that if you do find a Republican who isn't infected with the anti-Islam obsession that person is still unlikely to be a single issue voter so unless he's a Muslim himself (and few Muslims vote Republican) Paul being viewed as the pro-Muslim candidate is not going to motivate a person to support Paul if they don't already love Paul's other issues. In other words, Paul has little to gain from being viewed as pro-Muslim in the GOP primaries and a lot to lose. However, if he could WIN the Republican nomination being viewed as pro-Muslim becomes a positive because finally he'd have the advantage of gaining lefty voters and the support of the liberal media who love multiculturalism, and there's also the widely accepted idea that a President of the United States as the leading nation in the world must be led by someone who stands for diversity and tolerance which is why Bachmann could never become president in a million years.

Hey lady/gent relax. You weren't called, or implied, to be a troll or anti-Paul. You just got disagreed with. That isn't a personal attack and you're reacting a little overly sensitive. Just chill and respond why you thin you're still more correct in light of what someone else said. Its an intellectual exercise not a personal attack.

 

[69360]

Having Ron simply cater to his hard core supporters isn't going to get him anywhere. The more Ron does that, the more he alienates everyone else. Just look at the comments over at free republic regarding this issue. There were three or four people who were Ron Paul supporters before he said this, but his comments on Leno's show caused them to withdraw their support for Ron. Ron needs to reach out to more people, not just preach to the choir. This is just common sense.

Freepers aren't the majority of the party. The majority of the party is also not neocons and doesn't hate or war monger.

More or less without being too collectivist the GOP breaks down along these lines.

Liberterian leaners 20%
Moderate 50%
Neocon 30%

So lets go on the assumption that the neocons hate muslims. Let's also assume that the moderates don't necessarily hate muslims.

When Ron makes a bold statement like Bachman is a hate monger, it's shocking, moderates don't necessarily hate and certainly don't want to be labeled as haters. So it draws that large moderate pool to Ron.

Really it's brilliant.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Having Ron simply cater to his hard core supporters isn't going to get him anywhere. The more Ron does that, the more he alienates everyone else. Just look at the comments over at free republic regarding this issue. There were three or four people who were Ron Paul supporters before he said this, but his comments on Leno's show caused them to withdraw their support for Ron. Ron needs to reach out to more people, not just preach to the choir. This is just common sense.

Members of politically-oriented Internet forums tend to be ornery & highly opinionated - whatever their politics & positions.

Just take a look around RPFs for proof of this.

So I wouldn't regard the membership of FR as being representative of anything but ... well ... the membership of FR.