Time to back Gary Johnson?

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I was a big fan of Sanford until recently. Now that that filthy adulterer is out of the picture, how about Gary Johnson. He's got good pro-liberty values and even opposes the drug war, which many libertarian republicans do not.
 
He's alright, but it'll take a lot of hype to interest me in a 2012 presidential candidate unless it's Ron Paul.

Johnson has solid ideals, but his experience (name recognition & perception of competence) is awfully weak.

Hopefully, we can at least find a solid Congressional candidate to endorse. 2010 is looking like a bit of a disappointment for "politics" (a Schiff run is looking increasingly unlikely... Kokesh might be the only decent candidate, and his tax issue is very concerning), though there are solid institutions and people (RPH) progression libertarian ideology. I don't expect much more for 2012.
 
While I am solidly behind Gary Johnson in 2012, he needs to get out there and regain his name recognition - and I don't see him making any moves to do so. Perhaps he's not even interested - the guy lives a very full life. But, based on my experience, I'd say he needs to really get moving by the beginning of 2010, running the press circuit, so that when the debates start in the beginning of 2011 he's primed and in good position.
 
Johnson is a weak public speaker and does not have the "moxie" image required to mobilize a voter base. He'd need ALOT of skills work and a superior campaign for me to support him. I agree with him on most of the issues, but, I'm thinking about overall success. Also, if he is a "reluctant candidate", he will get no donations from me. I will only financially support a candidate that truly wants to win from day 1.
 
I was liking Gov. Johnson, too, but apparently a few years ago he started dating another woman and left his wife; see http://bit.ly/vfOyT (PDF).

I didn't trust Gov. Sanford, anyway, due to Bilderberg, but this is just crazy. What's with these guys and their marriages?

I'm thinking it's either Dr. Paul in 2012, or else I'll probably end up voting third party again. In any case, it's the states where we really need to focus: http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin499.htm
 
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2010 is looking like a bit of a disappointment for "politics" (a Schiff run is looking increasingly unlikely...

How so? Are you referring to the website that was taken down or anything Peter has actually said?

Kokesh might be the only decent candidate,

What about Rand Paul or BJ Lawson?

I don't expect much more for 2012.

I'm hoping to see Ron Paul win the 2010 CPAC straw poll as a positive indication of 2010 prospects for liberty candidates.
 
While I am solidly behind Gary Johnson in 2012, he needs to get out there and regain his name recognition.

Gary Johnson has said that he won't be deciding on a 2012 run until the summer of 2010 (http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/news.php)...this would be a ripe time considering the Congressional elections would be warming up and people would be in the early stages of looking toward 2012.


To start now would burn people out quickly.
 
He's alright, but it'll take a lot of hype to interest me in a 2012 presidential candidate unless it's Ron Paul.

Johnson has solid ideals, but his experience (name recognition & perception of competence) is awfully weak.

Hopefully, we can at least find a solid Congressional candidate to endorse. 2010 is looking like a bit of a disappointment for "politics" (a Schiff run is looking increasingly unlikely... Kokesh might be the only decent candidate, and his tax issue is very concerning), though there are solid institutions and people (RPH) progression libertarian ideology. I don't expect much more for 2012.

What about Rand Paul? :)
 
I see a lot of conventional thinking in this thread. But we are not living conventional times, right now. We could make Johnson work, for himself, ourselves and the nation. But we're going to have to get our heads outside the box to do it.

Even so, I have a nice conventional suggestion for you: Paul/Johnson 2012 FTW!!! W00T!!

What about Rand Paul? :)

I fear that voters fear the untried too much. Besides, our president will be hamstrung if we don't get him some senators and more represenatives, too!
 
I was liking Gov. Johnson, too, but apparently a few years ago he started dating another woman and left his wife; see http://bit.ly/vfOyT (PDF).

I didn't trust Gov. Sanford, anyway, due to Bilderberg, but this is just crazy. What's with these guys and their marriages?

I'm thinking it's either Dr. Paul in 2012, or else I'll probably end up voting third party again. In any case, it's the states where we really need to focus: http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin499.htm

Didn't know this. I always thought the Johnson's got divorced first.
I didn't know the SOB cheating on her was why they broke up. Well he and Sanford are done in my book. I won't waste my money and effort on either.
 
Good lord, so is being faithful to one's spouse the minority position for government officials? (sanford/clinton/gingrich/vitter/mcgreevey/hart/foley/spitzer/livingston/ensign etc etc)
 
Good lord, so is being faithful to one's spouse the minority position for government officials? (sanford/clinton/gingrich/vitter/mcgreevey/hart/foley/spitzer/livingston/ensign etc etc)

Disappointing... :(
 
Good lord, so is being faithful to one's spouse the minority position for government officials? (sanford/clinton/gingrich/vitter/mcgreevey/hart/foley/spitzer/livingston/ensign etc etc)

I think it's as much about power as anything. They have some narcissistic need to constantly be on a quest. Sexual conquests are just a part of that.
 
I was liking Gov. Johnson, too, but apparently a few years ago he started dating another woman and left his wife; see http://bit.ly/vfOyT (PDF).

Dee Johnson, 52, said Gary's actions are responsible for the split.
"My heart is broken with what Gary's done to me but I'm a survivor
and I'll make it through this."

She didn't make it though. She died a year later, from a heart related issue.

Maybe a Gingrich/Johnson ticket?
 
Johnson is a weak public speaker

I like the guy but he needs to hire a speech coach or something if he seriously wants to come onto the national scene. It was difficult listening to him on Freedom Watch because every other word was "um".
 
She didn't make it though. She died a year later, from a heart related issue.

Maybe a Gingrich/Johnson ticket?

Sad. The woman that built the construction company with him. His Speech at RTR was "I, I, I, I, I. A little to much egotist for me, on top of doing this to his wife.
 
yes... i can now see how gary johnson could get more notice & name recognition
once the d.c area mass media ceases with its normalcy aspected feeding frenzy...
 
I like his views, but I am sorry, the guy is just too strange.
 
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