Time for tough love (re: B.J. Lawson's money bomb).

.... don't hit the reply button.. just go here http://www.lawsonforcongress.com/ and donate $25. Lawson is the real deal.

If people donated 1/2 of what they donated to reelect Ron Paul then Lawson would have a decent chance. Especially if they did it now so he has time to buy ads.

My fear is everyone is waiting for and expecting the campaign for liberty to sweep in and organize and push a bunch of local candidates like Lawson.
 
constituent said:
I agree with you 100%.

Here is the key. If anyone is really concerned with why things (for this sake of our discussion, things online) aren't working now, all they have to do is go back and scour internet archives for the public discourse that was taking place between the individuals coalescing around RP back then (pre-RPforums.com even), and compare it to the discourse taking place now (the OP being a prime example).

That is/would be a start.
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I honestly think it has more to do with people who were in it just for Ron Paul vs. people who were in it for the bigger picture and understood that it was bigger than Ron Paul (a movement) and were willing to press on continuing the fight for liberty even after Ron Paul's campaign ended...

Those who were just here to get Ron Paul elected have left, and those who were here for the long haul are still here.

Now, that said, not everyone who is still here is being proactive and the forums have turned into more of a social website than a tool of the movement. I don't blame people for this, though, because I think the problem is no one knows what to do. No one knows what direction to take.

It was easy with Ron Paul's campaign because there was one central area everyone could focus on and it was clear what needed to be done and what could be done. That's not the case anymore and that's the problem. The obviously thing that we were trying to get done today was get people to donate to BJ's campaign, but not everyone has the money to do that right now...

So, here's some of the questions that need to be answered:

How do we proceed? What can we do to advance the movement? What needs to be done and what can be done?

How can we get new people involved in the movement to grow it?
 
slacker921 said:
My fear is everyone is waiting for and expecting the campaign for liberty to sweep in and organize and push a bunch of local candidates like Lawson.
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Which is related to the larger problem that everyone is waiting for organization and leadership to come in this post-Ron Paul campaign period.
 
Trying to guilt people into donating money is a pretty gutsy way to try and spur people to give especially under the current economic circumstances. I chalk the post up to youthful frustration at the sheer difficulty of raising funds.

That being said, like the website founder said above and what I see today, many RPForums members have again opened up their wallets, many serially to try and help out B.J. however they can.

Being dismissive can be divisive. People saying the OP wants to stop infighting actually seem to miss the point that the post itself causes more infighting, and while most folks just write it off to frustration, some will take it for what it is, which to me is a broadbased insult wrapped in an appeal for generosity---very cavalier.

I still see cash rolling into B.J.'s coffers. Let's just chalk this up to frustration.

And for anyone on the edge about donating --- the blowout in the primary plus the absolute gold-standard speeches and articles provided by Lawson to back-up his candidacy show he's a true contender, and definitely worthy of support!
 
When BJ told me that the 29th was his 12th wedding anniversary to JoLynn, i felt it would be a great symbolic day for a moneybomb. But that was a little over a week ago from today! So I'm very pleased that the grassroots came together so fast and united for this moneybomb for BJ's campaign. I know that the campaign will put it to very good use.

The positive thing is that locally, there are people who are still committed to their own candidates, and can spread the message about them to the rest of the nation on the forums. I joined with a handful of really great, dedicated people in many email discussions during the planning and initiation phases of this moneybomb planning. It illustrates to me that any local group of supporters of a candidate can do the exact same thing. Even if you net $10k+ from the event, that's still a heck of a lot of dough.

We are the campaign for liberty.
 
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I just donated and it felt good. :)

We've wondered who will step up to fill Ron's shoes, when he retires. Well, wouldn't it be wonderful to help Lawson get elected, so he can serve under Ron's tutelage? I mean, he's already won his primary and by a hefty margin, it sounds like.

This guy looks like a keeper to me, but everyone has to decide for themselves.
 
this tough love is working!!

I bet most people had no idea how hard Dr. Lawson is working...
 
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james1844 said:
You know what, I always thought that White and his son were kind of sad looking. Plus, whats up with that kid's hat? I think its a fau paux to wears leather wide brimmed hats, especially indoors.
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I always thought the guy with the hat was White. Go figure.
 
With candidates other than Ron Paul, the real question isn't about people not knowing what to do, the real question is the integrity of the candidates. Will these candidates actually STAY in the blasted race even if they don't get the necessary funds? Are these candidates REALLY committed to liberty to the point they'll use every means at their disposal to get elected? Although money plays a major role, the candidate has to be a charismatic, level-headed, and informed individual with a strong sense of integrity. Yes, I donated to BJ's campaign today, but supporters need a bit more assurance from the candidates themselves that they're really committed to their campaign, to liberty, to their posterity, and to the people.
 
constituent said:
i thought his name was black and he was the guy in the hat... lol.

at least it was (apparently) the right picture.
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Oh crap, did I screw up his name too. I thought the dude in the black hat was the dude that hates everybody. I'm proud of myself for having no idea...:confused:

BTW:


Thank you very much for your donation of $50.00 to the Lawson for Congress Campaign.

Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of peace, prosperity, and liberty.

Thanks for being a part of the campaign!

Your confirmation number:
T1017-7CV51993YH149512N
 
It's Don Black. Don Black is the guy in the middle. His son, Derrek Black, is the guy in the hat.

(And no, I do not like either of them or visit their hate website.)

That smear was such a crock of bull. What was Paul supposed to do? Ask for a photo ID and run a background check before having that photo taken with them? They were just random people in the lobby at the place where the Values Voters' Debate was being held. No way in hell did Paul have any idea who either of those two were. He probably still doesn't know (or even remembers them).
 
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austin4paul said:
Um -- did it ever occur to you that maybe it was a bad idea to schedule a money bomb 5 days before another money bomb was already planned?

www.freedomslate08.com
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Ha! This moneybomb was planned far before BTM's. In fact it was on the same day. But we moved it 5 days earlier. One of the reasons was because they took our day.
 
Reason did a good job exposing hate-monger Charles Johnson when that story first came out:

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/124051.html

LGF almost, repeat almost, makes me want to vote for Barack Obama. If nothing else, just to make them even more irrelevant, powerless and to give the neocons a White House eviction notice (though replacing the neocons would mean putting in the socialists).
 
Thank you Paige, Garland, and others working tirelessly on getting Lawson into congress.

Mr. ~*,

Thank you very much for your donation of $50.00 to the Lawson for Congress Campaign.

Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of peace, prosperity, and liberty.

Thanks for being a part of the campaign!

and..

Mrs. ~*,

Thank you very much for your donation of $50.00 to the Lawson for Congress Campaign.

Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of peace, prosperity, and liberty.

Thanks for being a part of the campaign!


I can't say whether BJ Lawson is the best Ron Paul republican running for office right now. I can say, however, after meeting both BJ (numerous occasions) and Dr. Paul, given the opportunity to vote either for Paul or Lawson, I would vote for Lawson. Ron Paul has been a hero for my wife and I, but BJ Lawson is the future. He can carry the fire of liberty through the next generation.
 
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