Time for tough love (re: B.J. Lawson's money bomb).

[SnappleLlama]

Paige Michael-Shetley is right about this. Every organized congressional money bomb we've had so far has been just that; a bomb.

We're never going to have any new Ron Paul republicans in Washington if we can't even properly fund the ones that actually win their primaries. That's the BIGGEST obstacle for a challenger against a congressional incumbent...money. Lawson can win if he gets the money. without it? No chance.

We raised 1,050,000 in about a month for Ron Paul's congressional campaign when he was being challenged in the republican primary by Chris Peden. Why can't we raise half of that total, over the course of a couple of months, for B.J. Lawson?

The only "fix" for this problem I can see is if Ron Paul used his RonPaul2008 and CFL mailing lists and directly asked/begged for donations for Lawson. That's the only way I can see anything significant happening for Lawson on the fundraising front.

There have been too many moneybombs. I'm just broke, personally. I donated a huge chunk of change to Ron Paul's campaign, plus a bunch of $$$ to the revolution march, the Nevada GOP delegates convention, etc. There are so many fundraisers, and I just don't have the money. I gave $75.00 to BJ Lawson, and that's all I can afford right now. I'm sure I'm not the only one with this financial situation.

 

[constituent]

Man, you are being snarky today. Luckily Ron Paul is the Rubber Man and the media is the glue.

hell yea!

 

[amy31416]

We need to think about some better ways to support guys like BJ. What's really going to matter in November is how many people have heard of him, know and like his stances and will actually vote.

Let's start coming up with some ideas. Think outside the bomb.

 

[constituent]

You know what, I always thought that White and his son were kind of sad looking. Plus, whats up with that kid's hat? I think its a fau paux to wears leather wide brimmed hats, especially indoors.

is that his son? the looks on their faces betray their intentions.


p.s.

donate it if you got it. i was just messin' around w/ the OP.

 

[constituent]

Think outside the bomb.

i would like to echo this statement.

 

[james1844]

Hey RP in G,

I think its important to think about the metrics of success here. There was less money than Paige was hoping for, but you need to think about what has been accomplished instead of what was NOT accomplished.

1) Most Ron Paul folks have never heard of BJ Lawson. Consider that.

2) We had less than a week to put the bomb together. Getting 10-12k in a week for a candidate that nobody has ever heard of is GREAT. Also, consider the relative amounts here. We tripled the number of pledges that Vern got, we also got 1/6th of Amits total haul - all in one day. So, the results are very good, all for one day and on short notice.

So, there is plenty of reason for optimism. BJ will win this election, I can feel it.

Paige Michael-Shetley is right about this. Every organized congressional money bomb we've had so far has been just that; a bomb.

We're never going to have any new Ron Paul republicans in Washington if we can't even properly fund the ones that actually win their primaries. That's the BIGGEST obstacle for a challenger against a congressional incumbent...money. Lawson can win if he gets the money. without it? No chance.

We raised 1,050,000 in about a month for Ron Paul's congressional campaign when he was being challenged in the republican primary by Chris Peden. Why can't we raise half of that total, over the course of a couple of months, for B.J. Lawson?

The only "fix" for this problem I can see is if Ron Paul used his RonPaul2008 and CFL mailing lists and directly asked/begged for donations for Lawson. That's the only way I can see anything significant happening for Lawson on the fundraising front.

 

[FireofLiberty]

The sad thing is that if you want to raise any money in a traditional way as a non-incumbent and virtual nobody/outsider you have to go Vernon Robinson crazy (and let me be clear that's not a diss, because I love Vernon).

 

[james1844]

Roxic,

Thanks for the hand. There are lots of ways to contribute!

OP i agree with you for the most part.... BJ is an excellent candidate.... i wasn't able to donate because all but 11 dollars of my paycheck went to rent, and 8 of what was left went to laundry... so im sorry you are sorely dissapointed in me but i just couldn't do it...

what i did do however was spread around BJ's facebook page and money bomb info to everyone i knew... i also sent out an awesome email to my entire address book, i also posted multiple bulletins about it on myspace

so i felt like even though i couldn't donate i did what i could to promote the moneybom*

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Think outside the bomb.

 

[amy31416]

Nice!

 

[MRoCkEd]

What's the best way we could help without donating?
Could we have a letter-writing campaign?

 

[mport1]

I completely agree with the OP. If we don't pick up the momentum on this and CFL we are in big trouble.

Thousands of people have been directly contacted about this money bomb and yet they aren't helping out in the effort.

 

[MRoCkEd]

note: the day ain't over

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[ladyjade3]

I'm going to take this very personally if BJ's Money Bomb is not a complete and resounding success. I must be losing my touch!

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Dear Nicole ------,

Thank you very much for your donation of $25.00 to the Lawson for Congress Campaign.

Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of peace, prosperity, and liberty.

Thanks for being a part of the campaign!

Your confirmation number:
T975-52M42200DT350605H

Will donate another $25 during the week when I get 'paid.'

 

[james1844]

But... its already been successful!

I'm going to take this very personally if BJ's Money Bomb is not a complete and resounding success. I must be losing my touch!

 

[MRoCkEd]

 

[constituent]

I completely agree with the OP.

That's ghey, and here's why:

(sorry to have to do this)

I'm sending the following message to you all not as a staffer for B.J. (and I do NOT speak for the campaign when I say this), but as someone who has paid a tremendous cost over the last year- financial, physical, and personal- in the campaign for liberty.

no, actually, she is sending this message as a staffer for B.J.

...and actually, she does speak for the campaign

My thanks to everyone who has donated today and who has worked so hard for this. You all have been tremendous and so gracious, and we can't express enough just how much you all mean to us.

ok, buffer (check).... que bad news:

To the rest of you in the Ron Paul community, I'm SORELY disappointed in you. We've got a TREMENDOUS Ron Paul Republican candidate running. It's not even close. Just seeing our website or watching his YouTube videos makes it READILY apparent that he's far and away the best candidate and has the best and most professional campaign. The fact that we have actually DESTROYED OUR OPPONENT in an election should confirm this for you.

Ok, so you want a raise, i get it. I'm glad you guys got a website put together and some great youtube vids (though i haven't seen them myself), that's a start.

Even happier you destroyed your opponent (an established one at that, no?).

Onward

We've got 40 student interns- libertarians, Republicans, and Democrats all- who are working their butts off for this campaign without pay simply because they love the message and the candidate.

Blah, not working. "Interns" what crap. "Without pay?" sounds like your problem, or perhaps theirs. It is what it is though.

You think Steven Vasquez or Peter James have this? You think Murray Sabrin had this? No way in hell.

Poo-pooing your fellow revolutionaries in the same breath that you ask them for money is foolish at best.

We have volunteers from around the country who have worked- also without pay- very hard to pressure major blogs to make postings and to work social networks to spread the word. And this is how you repay them for their efforts?

First off, sending out troll squads to "pressure major blogs" is just obnoxious (this goes back to "maybe it's the approach"). And second, if they chose to work gratis that is again, their issue and yours but certainly not mine.

Seriously, this is how i repay them? GTFO.

I'm not atlas, but... well, [insert obligatory Ayn Rand reference].

This is how you pay tribute to how great of a job B.J. has done in bringing the message of liberty to this district and inspiring people to join the campaign? You might as well have spit in all of their faces with your actions- or should I say, inactions?- today.

might as well have spit in their faces huh? by choosing to feed my family first?

that's fraken rich

I've increasing come to the conclusion that most of you aren't seriously interested in reclaiming liberty. Some of this group are just a social club...

funny, i'd just come to the same conclusion about some of "you."

how 'bout it.

...who would prefer to just sit around and whine and bitch about how the world is collapsing or about how the evil puppetmasters at the CFR and Trilateral Commission are trying to turn us into human sacrifices at their Bohemian Grove rituals (or whatever else crazy batshit insane ideas that you guys have) instead of actually DOING something about what's wrong with the world. Others of you are just a bunch of sick personality cult adherents, and in this respect, you're no better than Obama supporters.

And you're just the queen of f*n sheeba. Posts like these make me eager not to contribute my money to people like you.

Want to prove me wrong? Then start donating some freaking money to the campaign, pass the word around online about the candidate and the situation, and help us get $70,000 by midnight Monday night.

SHOW ME TEH MONEYZ!!!!!

srsly, you sound like a bookie.

of course, if you're a libertarian, perhaps you might just be?
(no offense to all the non-libertarian bookies out there)

Just for reference, the point he needs to hit is the $228,000 mark on the ticker. No excuses; just get it done.

Paige Michael-Shetley
Youth Coordinator, Volunteer Coordinator
Lawson for Congress
[email protected]

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LoL. Yes, drill seargent.


and this is why you (and so many other efforts around here these days) are fail.

and frankly, with the way you put yourself up on a pedestal above "everyone who isn't me," you're riding for a fall.

 

[smarty927]

I don't normally respond to many things on the internet, including personal emails and message boards. That being said, I wanted to say a few things to the Freedom and Liberty Community that are those here in the Ron Paul forum.

I am the creator of the Lawson Liberty Fund website. I've seen how hard our small group has worked, and I've seen its fruits. We've worked our asses off these past 2 weeks, and I consider it a success. When I first started the website about 2 months ago, I only wanted to raise about $1000 to $2000. We had about 15 donors registered up until about a month ago. Look how far we've gone!

As a group, we wanted the goal to be $80,000. My personal goal was $10,000. We have exceeded that, and I consider this a success. Yes, we didn't do what we had wanted, but we raised enough money in small contributions to do a lot of things.

Considering that most people found out about this in the last week, I can understand how it would be difficult to come up with $100 on a short notice. I grew up in a family where a spare $100 would take a few weeks and sometimes a few months to save up.

That being said, I too am disappointed in the community. We’ve had well over 1500 absolute page views to the site. If each of those would have donated just $25, we would have $37,500 raised. If they would have donated $50, we would have $75,000.

It’s all good though guys. We love you, and we hope that all of us will step up in the future. Thanks for making this a success (in my eyes), and thanks for giving BJ a huge boost in donations!

In Liberty,
Kacy

 

[constituent]

I don't normally respond to many things on the internet, including personal emails and message boards. That being said, I wanted to say a few things to the Freedom and Liberty Community that are those here in the Ron Paul forum.

I am the creator of the Lawson Liberty Fund website. I've seen how hard our small group has worked, and I've seen its fruits. We've worked our asses off these past 2 weeks, and I consider it a success. When I first started the website about 2 months ago, I only wanted to raise about $1000 to $2000. We had about 15 donors registered up until about a month ago. Look how far we've gone!

As a group, we wanted the goal to be $80,000. My personal goal was $10,000. We have exceeded that, and I consider this a success. Yes, we didn't do what we had wanted, but we raised enough money in small contributions to do a lot of things.

Considering that most people found out about this in the last week, I can understand how it would be difficult to come up with $100 on a short notice. I grew up in a family where a spare $100 would take a few weeks and sometimes a few months to save up.

That being said, I too am disappointed in the community. We’ve had well over 1500 absolute page views to the site. If each of those would have donated just $25, we would have $37,500 raised. If they would have donated $50, we would have $75,000.

It’s all good though guys. We love you, and we hope that all of us will step up in the future. Thanks for making this a success (in my eyes), and thanks for giving BJ a huge boost in donations!

In Liberty,
Kacy

THAT is how you do it.

thanks Kacy.