Time For Libertarians To Leave The GOP?

[r3volution 3.0]

Libertarians have been uncomfortably participating in GOP primaries because that party, despite being nearly identical to the other as a matter of policy, at least payed lip service to small government, which gave those of us trying to actually pursue smaller government some degree of cover. I always argued in favor of this strategy, but I'm not sure the rationale still applies, with the modern GOP increasingly not even paying lip service to small government. Amash is on the verge of losing his next reelection because the Trumpenproles tolerate nothing but mindless obedience to Dear Leader. Sanford already lost an election for the same reason. Rand's been lobotomized. Should we go back to the LP and try to turn it into something functional? Create a new party? Sure, we wouldn't win any elections anytime soon, but we're not winning any now. Better to be in principled opposition, a seed for future growth, than to be slowly assimilated into the TrumpBorg. If Amash decides to run on the LP ticket in 2020, which is looking increasingly likely, that may be as good a signal as any that it's time to GTFO and go find some greener pastures.

 

[dannno]

Amash is on the verge of losing his next reelection because the Trumpenproles tolerate nothing but mindless obedience to Dear Leader.

Wrong.

Rand's been lobotomized.

Also wrong.

 

[dannno]

Read my sig. It's pretty simple.

You like the GOP and politics? Then do GOP and politics. Don't like 'em? Do something else. Do what you enjoy, do what you're good at, work toward more liberty.

I hate politics, but I enjoy watching from the sidelines somewhat in certain circumstances. I certainly don't like partying with a bunch of Republicans, although there are plenty of people on the right who I like.

I support Trump to the degree I choose to because he is anti-establishment.

 

[euphemia]

It’s time for libertarians to leave the Libertarian Party and join the Constitution Party.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Wrong.

Down 16 points against pro-Trump challenger

http://https://reason.com/2019/06/12/shock-poll-amash-down-16-points-in-republican-primary

I'm not saying he'll definitely lose, but this is a pretty clear indication of what it takes to work within the GOP.

(blind obedience to POTUS)

 

[Schifference]

Libertarians cannot even get along with each other how would they ever expect to make a difference?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yes, let's make libertarianism completely irrelevant and ensure a communist dictatorship.

The GOP is moving our direction and we can't have that so now is the perfect time to make them hate us and never listen to us for at least a generation at which point the invasion will be complete and we will all be running from an all powerful intelligence state enabled by overwhelming numbers.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Down 16 points against pro-Trump challenger

http://https://reason.com/2019/06/12/shock-poll-amash-down-16-points-in-republican-primary

I'm not saying he'll definitely lose, but this is a pretty clear indication of what it takes to work within the GOP.

(blind obedience to POTUS)

There is a difference between "blind obedience" and joining forces with the likes of Pelosi and Waters and Schiff and Cortez and Omar and all the rest of the neo-bolsheviks in calling for impeachment because "I don't like that fucking guy".

 

[r3volution 3.0]

There is a difference between "blind obedience" and joining forces with the likes of Pelosi and Waters and Schiff and Cortez and Omar and all the rest of the neo-bolsheviks in calling for impeachment because "I don't like that fucking guy".

Different people fucking hate Trump for different reasons.

The Dems fucking hate Trump because he's a member of the other party.

Amash fucking hates Trump because Trump is an enemy of liberty.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Amash $#@!ing hates Trump because Trump is an enemy of liberty.

But the deepstate that he is enabling with his impeachment support is our friend?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

But the deepstate that he is enabling with his impeachment support is our friend?

lulz

 

[Origanalist]

Yes, let's make libertarianism completely irrelevant and ensure a communist dictatorship.

The GOP is moving our direction [snip]

Wait, what?

 

[specsaregood]

Should we go back to the LP

Yes, you should go back to the LP, immediately. You would be welcome.

 

[dannno]

Down 16 points against pro-Trump challenger

http://https://reason.com/2019/06/12/shock-poll-amash-down-16-points-in-republican-primary

I'm not saying he'll definitely lose, but this is a pretty clear indication of what it takes to work within the GOP.

(blind obedience to POTUS)

That's not what I said was wrong. Ya, he may lose, but it's not because blind obedience to Trump, it is because he went Leroy Jenkins on a bunch of leftist nonsense.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

That's not what I said was wrong. Ya, he may lose, but it's not because blind obedience to Trump, it is because he went Leroy Jenkins on a bunch of leftist nonsense.

It's because he criticized Trump, pure and simple.

And this is how that reasoning operates among Trump's base:

I support Trump to the degree I choose to because he is anti-establishment.

Everybody knows Trump's anti-establishment, therefore anyone who fights him must be...yep, establishment.

Fighting that particular psychosis is clearly futile; so I say, walk away and do something else.

 

[dannno]

Different people fucking hate Trump for different reasons.

The Dems fucking hate Trump because he's a member of the other party.

Amash fucking hates Trump because Trump is an enemy of liberty.

And RINO/neocon/nevertrumpers hate Trump because.............................................

 

[dannno]

It's because he criticized Trump, pure and simple.

Wrong.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

And RINO/neocon/nevertrumpers hate Trump because.............................................

They don't; they fill his administration, shill for him on FOX, donate money to him.

 

[juleswin]

Yes, you should go back to the LP, immediately. You would be welcome.

Barack Obama

Donald Trump

Ron Paul

One thing I know for sure, not voting for that dweeby nerd Ron Paul. Hell to the no!!!!

 

[Swordsmyth]

It's because he criticized Trump, pure and simple.

And this is how that reasoning operates among Trump's base:



Everybody knows Trump's anti-establishment, therefore anyone who fights him must be...yep, establishment.

Fighting that particular psychosis is clearly futile; so I say, walk away and do something else.

Nope, Rand, Massie and even Amash have criticized Trump without the reaction Amash got by endorsing the treasonous coup.