Thought Experiment: Tax Free Society

[Raineee]

An anarcho-capitalist society would be a disaster. There's a reason we have governments, even if they are highly flawed.

 

[South Park Fan]

An anarcho-capitalist society would be a disaster. There's a reason we have governments, even if they are highly flawed.

Wow, you've convinced me.

 

[Raineee]

Wow, you've convinced me.

All of this anarcho-capitalist stuff is just so very, very, Utopian. None of you are admitting any flaws in it.

It reminds me of the socialists. Everyone will be equal, great quality of life, justice and happiness for all, blah blah. It doesn't work.

 

[tremendoustie]

All of this anarcho-capitalist stuff is just so very, very, Utopian. None of you are admitting any flaws in it.

Do you oppose murder of innocents? All murder of innocents? Does that make you Utopian? Of course not. You work to reduce murder as much as possible, you never support it, but you realize it will probably always exist to some degree.

Replace murder with aggressive violence, and that's my stance. Things will never be perfect, but that does not mean I am going to accept and support immorality and injustice.

I am willing to consider any means of social organization which does not violate the non aggression principle. No such means is problem free, some have more problems than others. None has as so great a problem as coercive government, though, which does not even have the possibility of being moral.

It reminds me of the socialists. Everyone will be equal, great quality of life, justice and happiness for all, blah blah. It doesn't work.

Who said it will be perfect? I'm just opposing the immorality I see, and right now, most of it is coming from government. I would oppose a private tyrant as well.

And you might try a little more education, and a little less ignorant assertion.

 

[South Park Fan]

All of this anarcho-capitalist stuff is just so very, very, Utopian. None of you are admitting any flaws in it.

It reminds me of the socialists. Everyone will be equal, great quality of life, justice and happiness for all, blah blah. It doesn't work.

Of course anarcho-capitalism has flaws. However, it has fewer flaws than minarchism, and is more consistant with natural rights. Could you please prove why anarcho-capitalism doesn't work better than other ideologies, and not provide straw men to beat?

 

[newbitech]

All of this anarcho-capitalist stuff is just so very, very, Utopian. None of you are admitting any flaws in it.

It reminds me of the socialists. Everyone will be equal, great quality of life, justice and happiness for all, blah blah. It doesn't work.

The comments of these anarchy types are not reflective of the broader Liberty Movement.

 

[South Park Fan]

The comments of these anarchy types are not reflective of the broader Liberty Movement.

Aren't we part of the Liberty Movement?

 

[powerofreason]

Aren't we part of the Liberty Movement?

Soon to be the larger part of it. Certainly the future of it, in any case.

 

[denison]

update:

I was thinking of ways a taxless society would work. More importantly how roads, parks, and defense would be funded in a small limited government scenario where the government doesn't collect any taxes. If the government ran 10% of the country's businesses and used the profit to fund the essentials of the country. The government would have an incentive to provide good service, because it would raise there profit, therefore expand their budget.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

That's nice. And when said criminal says "I never committed that crime and I'm not doing squat" then what? Who makes the final decision to force someone to work against his will? A private judicial corporation?

The problem with the whole "free market" prison thing is simple. Most free market transactions are between people who WANT to make the transaction! I trade you my wheat for your eggs. Everybody is happy. In the case of the justice system there is a third party that likely will NOT be happy with the outcome. I accuse you of stealing my wheat, I provide evidence, you say you were framed, somebody has to make the final decision and in the end we all have to live with that decision. I don't want that decision made simply by who has the most money to pay for justice. Sure, our justice system is already bent towards money, so let's just make it official?

There are a lot of areas of government we can do without. And the "corrections" system is certainly too big. But so far the proposals I've seen for privatization would make things worse IMO. Privatize social security (I likely won't get any anyway). Keep medicine private and privatize indigent care. (I'd be happy to "chip-in" for that.) While I'm wary of toll roads (trans Texas corridor MUST be stopped), I could live in a society that was 100% toll roads since I don't HAVE to drive anywhere. (Very difficult, but not impossible). But I would NOT want to live in a society where some private judge can give some orders to some private police to put me in a private prison to work off a debt to a private victim that I don't think I owe. And yes I'm talking "worst case scenario" here, but if we're talking about replacing an existing system with a new one we have to look at the worst case of what could happen.

Regards,

John M. Drake

But you already do! And it's even more unjust than the private system because the State has THE FINAL SAY.