Thomas Massie may delay the bailout... Congress livid with him

[Matt Collins]

Except they actually do seem to be scared to vote for it on the record.

And I don't blame them. Going on the record voting for this much corporatist pork because of a non-emergency like this one could bite them all in the ass.

Exactly.

This is going to be another case where weeks after the bill is passed we all get to find out what was REALLY in it, and there are going to be some very bad things guaranteed.

Democrats are scared to death to go on record because the bill is full of corporate pork and handouts. The progressive wing of the Democrat Party could potentially eat the incumbents alive in the upcoming primaries over this if the incumbents are on record voting for it.

 

[Matt Collins]

Massie is quite possibly committing political suicide by doing this. He will not stop the bill and he will change very few minds. He is the only good Congressman in the House. I hope he knows what he is doing.

No he isn't committing political suicide.

Weeks later when we actually find out all of the details of the bill Massie will look like a prophet.

 

[Theocrat]

Frontline (Local) Barriers

Even at your best, which was apparently just applying for a local taxpayer job, you didn't make it? Your experience has no bearing. No equivalent. Just stop it.

Once again, that's just you spouting off ignorance. There were all sorts of life circumstances, obligations, and other matters in God's providence that occurred in my life which prevented me from pursuing state and federal candidacies. Just because I didn't get elected doesn't mean I have no right to speak on the issues in which we're debating.

Pretty much sums it up. What would you do to remove the head of the snake? Local, never elected, vote getter.

Stop with your childlike non-sense already.

As a Ron Paul supporter, you should know what I'd advocate in order to "chop off the head" of the Fed. The problem is most people don't understand the dangers of having a central banking system that controls the currency in an economy. In fact, when you explain it to others out in the field, even on the local level (and the Fed's policies definitely affect us on local levels), they typically will argue in favor of the Fed because they value security above liberty. That's not my fault for not being electable; it just shows that sometimes the electorate doesn't want to be free.

 

[Matt Collins]

I only hope that Massie can see the irony in abusing his power to delay the vote

He isn't abusing his power, he is merely exercising it. He is demanding a roll call vote which is what needs to happen on a bill of this significance. If other members are too lazy to come back to town for the vote, that is their problem, not his.

 

[Matt Collins]

I'm curious to know. What is the libertarian response to helping Americans who are in need financially during a difficult time such as this? If you guys don't support a stimulus bill such as this, what is the alternative?

From Young Americans for Liberty:


The government must get the hell out of the way so that we, the American people, working with doctors and healthcare professionals, can fix the health crisis.

Here are five examples of the government actually doing something positive to allow free people and free markets to solve the health crisis:

1.) States allow out-of-state medical professionals to get licenses to practice in less than one day.


2.) After weeks of holding up progress, the FDA approves new Coronavirus testing kit 24 hours after application.

3.) TSA is allowing family-sized jugs of hand sanitizer on planes.

4.) The HHS is allowing medical professionals to work across state lines to combat the Coronavirus.

5.) South Carolina, Texas, and Maryland governors ordered their states’ Boards of Medicine and Nursing to issue temporary licenses to out-of-state doctors.

You can count on YAL to be a consistent voice of reason. Now, more than ever, YAL is prepared to lead on principle.

 

[JoshLowry]

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Massie is quite possibly committing political suicide by doing this. He will not stop the bill and he will change very few minds. He is the only good Congressman in the House. I hope he knows what he is doing.

Massie ought retire to the hills of Kentucky using his genius to create.

Far too talented to work amongst whores and cockroaches.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

What, just in China? Sen. Mike Lee was quarantined without so much as a test for the virus.

Oh, did not know that Mike Lee was quarentined ahead of this vote.

 

[nikcers]

You changed the goalposts. First it was medical care would somehow stop, now it’s about people paying rent.

People will get medical care. This bill will have no affect one way or another.
People will not get evicted right now. This bill will have no affect on that.

This bill isnt about whether people who are out of work during the pandemic dont oversaturate the hospitals and can pay rent because otherwise the over regulated government managed corporate monopoly on healthcare would be rationed even more and millions would die as a result of lack of healthcare because of the liberal establishment economic terrorism????

 

[acptulsa]

Oh, did not know that Mike Lee was quarentined ahead of this vote.

He was, days ago, for merely being in the same room as Rand Paul. And this thing hasn't gotten to the Senate yet.

 

[nikcers]

He isn't abusing his power, he is merely exercising it. He is demanding a roll call vote which is what needs to happen on a bill of this significance. If other members are too lazy to come back to town for the vote, that is their problem, not his.

Exercise in power fruitlessly with possible unintended consequences is an abuse of power.

 

[Theocrat]

As Massie Slowly Opens the Curtain...

At this point, I think Rep. Massie should send a Tweet that he's not feeling suicidal, at all.

 

[familydog]

No he isn't committing political suicide.

Weeks later when we actually find out all of the details of the bill Massie will look like a prophet.

If the majority of Americans thought like us, then Ron Paul would have been President.

 

[acptulsa]

This bill isnt about whether people who are out of work during the pandemic dont oversaturate the hospitals and can pay rent because otherwise the over regulated government managed corporate monopoly on healthcare would be rationed even more and millions would die as a result of lack of healthcare because of the liberal establishment economic terrorism????

Why, no. No, it isn't. All that crap was already done at the state and local level by local politicians responding to media-induced lemming panic.

This bill is about pacifying the public with about $300 billion worth of freshly printed funny money while printing and passing out $5.7 trillion in corporate pork.

Exercise in power fruitlessly with possible unintended consequences is an abuse of power.

Well, no, of course it isn't. Abuse of power is...

A misuse of power by someone in a position of authority who can use the leverage they have to oppress persons in an inferior position or to induce them to commit a wrongful act.

 

[Warlord]

If the majority of Americans thought like us, then Ron Paul would have been President.

Ron won re-election over and over in his district because people there understood him. Thomas can do the same.

Running for president is different.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I'm curious to know. What is the libertarian response to helping Americans who are in need financially during a difficult time such as this? If you guys don't support a stimulus bill such as this, what is the alternative?

The libertarian response is charity and eliminating bureaucratic mismanagement of critical and limited supplies. Not to mention not shutting down the economy.

Typically bailouts are to a directed few paid for by many.

How do you bail out everyone? In other words, who pays for the bailout when everyone is being bailed out?

I suppose that it could be feasible to wholesale the 390 million acres of land they are squandering but in reality they will just destroy the dollar, default on payment, use military might and hegemony to bully their way into staying relevant.

But the world is not asleep and it takes just a few key areas for the realization that the emperor has no clothes.

And then, sure as this pandemic has shown, the American people will gobble up VAT and etc. and gladly pay 60% to be considered as highly as serfs.

Or they won’t. And in which case this pandemic will look like a free lunch.

 

[nikcers]

Why, no. No, it isn't. All that crap was already done at the state and local level by local politicians responding to media-induced lemming panic.

This bill is about pacifying the public with about $300 billion worth of freshly printed funny money while printing and passing out $5.7 trillion in corporate pork.

Are these corporations that employ ghosts? im sick and tired of this argument. This isnt the government picking winners we are all losers to the liberal establishment economic terrorists because they are using suicide bomb tactics.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

So vote for Biden?

That would be even funnier than Trump’s presidency.

 

[acptulsa]

Are these corporations that employ ghosts? im sick and tired of this argument. This isnt the government picking winners we are all losers to the liberal establishment economic terrorists because they are using suicide bomb tactics.

Do these corporations sell to ghosts? I'm sick and tired of people claiming apologetics like this are arguments. The government is still picking winners and losers. We, the People can only pick the winning companies when we're allowed to keep and spend the wealth we create.

What's wrong? You afraid free people won't maintain a military larger and more expensive than all other militaries combined?

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Probably not a smart move by GOPA wing leadership:

Trump calls for ousting GOP congressman from party ahead of coronavirus relief vote

Rep. Thomas Massie has signaled that he could hold up House passage of the stimulus measure.

Rep. Thomas Massie. | J. Scott Applewhite/AP Photo
By QUINT FORGEY
03/27/2020

President Donald Trump on Friday called for ousting from the Republican Party a GOP congressman who has signaled that he could hold up an impending House vote on the Senate's $2 trillion coronavirus emergency relief package.
"Looks like a third rate Grandstander named @RepThomasMassie, a Congressman from, unfortunately, a truly GREAT State, Kentucky, wants to vote against the new Save Our Workers Bill in Congress," Trump wrote on Twitter.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/trump-congressman-thomas-massie-coronavirus-vote-151523