Thomas Massie and 17 Other Republicans Voted Against Resolution to Support Finland and Sweden

[Swordsmyth]

The majority of lawmakers in the US are fully committed to the American empire, no matter the cost.
Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massie is one of the sole exceptions who recognizes the very hard limits of maintaining the US’s imperial project.

On July 18, 2022, Massie and 17 other Republicans voted against a resolution that manifested support for Finland and Sweden joining NATO.
The House passed the resolution on a 394-18 vote. Curiously, all of the opposition came from Republicans.

Two Democrats and 17 Republicans did not vote for this resolution.
According to a report by The Hill, the following Republicans voted against this bill:

Reps. Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Dan Bishop (N.C.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Madison Cawthorn (N.C.), Ben Cline (Va.), Michael Cloud (Texas), Warren Davidson (Ohio), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Bob Good (Va.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Morgan Griffith (Va.), Thomas Massie (Ky.), Tom McClintock (Calif.), Mary Miller (Ill.), Ralph Norman (S.C.), Matt Rosendale (Mont.), Chip Roy (Texas) and Jefferson Van Drew (N.J.).
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The resolution expresses support for Finland and Sweden joining NATO. In May, both countries applied for NATO membership. This resolution calls on member states to formally support the two Nordic countries’ ascension into NATO.
On top of that, the resolution opposes any moves by the Russian Federation to counteract this latest tranche of NATO expansion. Plus, the resolution calls on NATO member nations to meet their 2% of gross domestic product (GDP) commitment.
The recent drive to have Finland and Sweden join NATO came after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022.
On July 18, Thomas Massie went on Twitter to explain his vote. He tweeted “America can’t afford to subsidize socialist Europe’s defense, nor should we. Tonight, I voted against the House Resolution urging NATO’s expansion into Sweden and Finland.”

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/thoma...n-to-support-finland-and-sweden-joining-nato/

Rand has announced he will vote present.

 

[oyarde]

I fully support European countries who wish to join Nato and see the purpose for it, I just want the US out.

 

[TheTexan]

I fully support European countries who wish to join Nato and see the purpose for it, I just want the US out.

I think the whole world should join NATO then if any country attacked another we would have no choice but to defend both of them

 

[Swordsmyth]

I fully support European countries who wish to join Nato and see the purpose for it, I just want the US out.

That's fine, if we have any chance of leaving, like when Trump was in office.
As long as we are stuck in NATO we should not let one single new nation in.

 

[tebowlives]

That's fine, if we have any chance of leaving, like when Trump was in office.
As long as we are stuck in NATO we should not let one single new nation in.

We weren't going to leave under Trump. Just more of his grandstanding. What's he going to do next, act like he cares about property rights while pushing eminent domain? He knows how to play people, that much is obvious.

 

[acptulsa]

He knows how to play people, that much is obvious.

Just because he knows how to play Swordshyll does not mean he knows how to play people.

 

[Swordsmyth]

We weren't going to leave under Trump. Just more of his grandstanding. What's he going to do next, act like he cares about property rights while pushing eminent domain? He knows how to play people, that much is obvious.

We would have, just like we did leave the WHO and the Paris climate accords.

And that's not even the point, Trump didn't let more members in as Rand is doing by voting present.

 

[tebowlives]

We would have, just like we did leave the WHO and the Paris climate accords.

Based on what exactly?

And that's not even the point, Trump didn't let more members in as Rand is doing by voting present.

Wtf is wrong with you? You off your meds? That you think Rand is even the slightest bit responsible is absurd.
Trying so hard to be right instead of caring about the truth.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Based on what exactly?

Based on Trump pushing them to fulfill their NATO obligations.
If they did they would not need us, if they didn't we would leave because they were mooching off us.
They wouldn't.

Wtf is wrong with you? You off your meds? That you think Rand is even the slightest bit responsible is absurd.
Trying so hard to be right instead of caring about the truth.

He isn't responsible for promising to vote present instead of no?
Who is responsible?

 

[tebowlives]

Based on Trump pushing them to fulfill their NATO obligations.
If they did they would not need us, if they didn't we would leave because they were mooching off us.
They wouldn't.

It didn't work since - "Up to June 2021, the alliance estimated that 10 nations were spending 2% or more of their GDP on defence."

He isn't responsible for promising to vote present instead of no?
Who is responsible?

For letting countries into NATO? Not Rand

 

[Swordsmyth]

It didn't work since - "Up to June 2021, the alliance estimated that 10 nations were spending 2% or more of their GDP on defence."

That's not all of them, it was working.
Either way we would end up leaving, if they all started having decent militaries we would leave because they no longer needed us.

For letting countries into NATO? Not Rand

Who is responsible for his vote?

(By voting present instead of no he becomes responsible for letting more nations in)

 

[acptulsa]

(By voting present instead of no he becomes responsible for letting more nations in)

How? Tell us how.

Here's a hint: You might look up the definition of "resolution" as it applies to Congress before you stick your foot deeper into your mouth.

 

[tebowlives]

That's not all of them, it was working.
Either way we would end up leaving, if they all started having decent militaries we would leave because they no longer needed us.

No proof of this. Quit making things up

Who is responsible for his vote?

(By voting present instead of no he becomes responsible for letting more nations in)

No he isn't responsible, quit making things up. Trying so hard to be right instead of caring about the truth.

 

[acptulsa]

No proof of this. Quit making things up.

Seriously. Nothing could induce the U.S. to leave NATO except NATO deciding not to do what the U.S. says to do any more.

 

[Swordsmyth]

How? Tell us how.

Here's a hint: You might look up the definition of "resolution" as it applies to Congress before you stick your foot deeper into your mouth.

He declares that he doesn't oppose it and even repeats their propaganda for supporting it.
That aids their efforts to let them in.
Rand is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

 

[acptulsa]

He declares that he doesn't oppose it and even repeats their propaganda for supporting it.
That aids their efforts to let them in.
Rand is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

You're harping on Rand Paul refusing to vote one way or another on a meaningless Senate resolution, but deny that Trump dumping trillions on Big Pharma was giving aid and comfort to the enemy?

And you don't think that could be considered being a useful idiot?

Care to explain just how refusing to vote on a meaningless Senate resolution regarding NATO does you and me and everyone you know more harm than the currency devaluation that resulted from printing up all that aid and comfort he gave to Bill Gates?

 

[Swordsmyth]

You're harping on Rand Paul refusing to vote one way or another on a meaningless Senate resolution, but deny that Trump dumping trillions on Big Pharma was giving aid and comfort to the enemy?

And you don't think that could be considered being a useful idiot?

Care to explain just how refusing to vote on a meaningless Senate resolution regarding NATO does you and me and everyone you know more harm than the currency devaluation that resulted from printing up all that aid and comfort he gave to Bill Gates?

I have always opposed what Trump did.
But he had far better reasons for 3D chess and he never claimed to be pure the way Rand does.
Trump's actions made nothing worse than Congress would have imposed anyway, kept him from being convicted and removed in the joke impeachment, kept the news from crucifying him in an election year so the fraud was obvious, and helped to end the shut down mania.

Rand gains nothing and blatantly violates his core principles which he has always made far more of an issue than Trump ever did.

 

[acptulsa]

I have always opposed what Trump did.
But he had far better reasons for 3D chess and he never claimed to be pure the way Rand does.

The shill never fails to amuse. Such a fine excuse for trashing the guy on the masthead constantly and constantly praising the guy who caused the inflation that's strangling us, caused the mRNA jab that's killing us, and conspired with Pelosi to trash the Constitution.

 

[tebowlives]

I have always opposed what Trump did.
But he had far better reasons for 3D chess and he never claimed to be pure the way Rand does.
Trump's actions made nothing worse than Congress would have imposed anyway, kept him from being convicted and removed in the joke impeachment, kept the news from crucifying him in an election year so the fraud was obvious, and helped to end the shut down mania.

Rand gains nothing and blatantly violates his core principles which he has always made far more of an issue than Trump ever did.

Rand doesn't claim to be pure and you have no proof he does.

Too many of Trumps polices were garbage. Rands polices are excellent. It's always about policy.

 

[acptulsa]

Rand doesn't claim to be pure and you have no proof he does.

Too many of Trumps polices were garbage. Rands polices are excellent. It's always about policy.

Policy don't pay a shyll's bylls.