This isn't a Ron Paul march, it's about the ideas. This will get WAY more people!

[Cooter]

think of all the groups that normaly conflict and dont see eye to eye. gays and straights, democrats and republicans, 100% anti-war and no war without a decloration, and so on. seems to me that ron paul has sparked this latest movement. he doesnt own the message because it was out there without him, but he is playing a major role at this moment.

if you just lay all the issues of the message out there, people dont have anywhere to go with it. they may agree but where do they go to support it and move forward? they going to go to the orgs of all the different groups, or one central figure like ron paul to get involed in the movement?

 

[Evazan]

and if it has no ties to ron paul and is just some normal anti-war march then you wont get many people to go.

This is not a "normal anti-war march". This is a restore the constitution/freedom march and will be promoted as such. I know Ron Paul has a fervent support base but if this is a Ron Paul march it will only attract that support base. We would be lucky to get 100,000 people there. By making this march about the ideals of Ron Paul rather then the man Ron Paul we can get 10 times that many people there. You also have to consider how the media would treat a Ron Paul march. They would marginalize it just like they did to every other Ron Paul news.

The ultimate goal of this movement is not to put Ron Paul into the white house. The ultimate goal is to wake people up and realize what is happening to our country. Ron Paul is one man, it will take millions to bring the change we desire.

 

[Cooter]

This is not a "normal anti-war march". This is a restore the constitution/freedom march and will be promoted as such. I know Ron Paul has a fervent support base but if this is a Ron Paul march it will only attract that support base. We would be lucky to get 100,000 people there. By making this march about the ideals of Ron Paul rather then the man Ron Paul we can get 10 times that many people there. You also have to consider how the media would treat a Ron Paul march. They would marginalize it just like they did to every other Ron Paul news.

The ultimate goal of this movement is not to put Ron Paul into the white house. The ultimate goal is to wake people up and realize what is happening to our country. Ron Paul is one man, it will take millions to bring the change we desire.

i can agree with that.

 

[Evazan]

You also have to realize that even if we don't directly associate this with Ron Paul it will still get his name out there. He will be the key note speaker and there will be many Ron Paul supporters there. We don't win converts into our movement by waving Ron Paul signs in their face and chanting his name at Huckabee rallys. 50,000 Ron Paul signs marching down Washington will do little more then annoy people who have already seen these signs at street corners around the country. The only way to get people on our side is for them to learn the truths of our country on their own.

 

[FortWorth38]

think of all the groups that normaly conflict and dont see eye to eye. gays and straights, democrats and republicans, 100% anti-war and no war without a decloration, and so on. seems to me that ron paul has sparked this latest movement. he doesnt own the message because it was out there without him, but he is playing a major role at this moment.

if you just lay all the issues of the message out there, people dont have anywhere to go with it. they may agree but where do they go to support it and move forward? they going to go to the orgs of all the different groups, or one central figure like ron paul to get involed in the movement?

Thank you COOTER

 

[tamor]

I like "Restore the Constitution" idea, but we don't want the idea of "Vote for Ron Paul" to get lost

 

[Evazan]

I like "Restore the Constitution" idea, but we don't want the idea of "Vote for Ron Paul" to get lost

I don't want to be a downer but it is looking like the march is going to be sometime in June. At this point all the primaries will be over and it will be up to the 2000 delegates to decide the nominee. There will be no one left to vote for Ron Paul by the time this march happens, which is all the more reason for this march to be about the ideals of freedom rather then the man who represents them.

 

[Jaykzo]

You also have to realize that even if we don't directly associate this with Ron Paul it will still get his name out there. He will be the key note speaker and there will be many Ron Paul supporters there. We don't win converts into our movement by waving Ron Paul signs in their face and chanting his name at Huckabee rallys. 50,000 Ron Paul signs marching down Washington will do little more then annoy people who have already seen these signs at street corners around the country. The only way to get people on our side is for them to learn the truths of our country on their own.

EXACTLY.

We should theme it around adressing our country's real issues/fixing our government. That way we can attract more support.

But the whole event will be saturated with Ron Paul, no matter what this march becomes!

 

[NoPants]

It can be a Ron Paul March but I kinda agree that we should refrain from calling it a Ron Paul March. We will catch a lot of minds off guard before they close themselves and we can educate a lot of people who other wise wouldn't listen.

Exactly! It can be all about Ron Paul, but we shouldn't call it that and we won't be able to sell it that way.

Because the march is being organized by Ron Paul supporters and grassroots effort the tie to Dr. Paul will not be overlooked by the media (or the GOP). Neither will Dr. Paul asking us to do this and being a keynote speaker. The march is about the message... it's about our freedoms and personal liberties... it's about a return to small government limited by the Constitution... That is how we will sell this and must promote it. This has one exception, when talking to a hard-core Ron Paul supporter, then it's a Ron Paul march.

Just my opinion.

 

[DAFTEK]

I think we can get far more people to come if we did not make it a Ron Paul march and a march to save the constitution and our liberty, having it on the 4th of July like Paul mentioned would be big, He will speak there so i think to get more people to come we should not call it the Ron Paul march and just have the surprise to the world about it being in fact a Ron Paul movement in America m2cents

 

[DAFTEK]

I will be making a large yard sign to put up here in Iowa and get together with the meetup in my city to make one official sign and promote the 4th July Liberty March or whatever we will call it eventually, but again i stress it should not be promoted as a Ron Paul march until the actual day and let people decide what it is.

 

[NoPants]

I will be making a large yard sign to put up here in Iowa and get together with the meetup in my city to make one official sign and promote the 4th July Liberty March or whatever we will call it eventually, but again i stress it should not be promoted as a Ron Paul march until the actual day and let people decide what it is.

Where did you get 4th of July???

 

[Gimme Some Truth]

We need to get together a large number of people eg. Anti-war, Anti-tax , Constitutionalists, people pissed off with the status quo , people pissed off at the lack of real change/decent candidates ..... have Ron Paul as the main speaker

Generally make it about Ron Paul/Ron Paul's message , but make it broad enough to gather lots of people who may not actually support ROn Paul or any candidate. We'll get bigger numbers and we'll no doubt "convert" alot of people who do attend. Everything we do should be centralized around gathering more "freedom soldiers"

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[The Tao Of Bill]

The other thing is though ideally I'd love it if every public office chair was fillled with libertarian minded people. However, I know it's just not possible to get everyone on board with Libertarianism. Many people simply do not trust people enough to handle their own problems unfortunately. But if we can at least educate people to pay more attention to the constitution and raise a stink every time a president or anyone in public office violates the constitution our country will be way better off regardless of which party has control of the government.

So let's just educate as many people as they can on why our rights are being violated and what needs to be done to correct this problem and why standing up for ourselves is very important for any democracy. I think the biggest problem we have now is a population that is afraid to stand up for itself. I think our biggest goal of this march should be to change that attitude.

And remember. Try to keep negative campaigning and conspiracy theories to yourself. Only things we know is happening like wire tapping and illegal wars.

 

[NoPants]

We'll get bigger numbers and we'll no doubt "convert" a lot of people who do attend.

Exactly.

 

[ladyliberty]

I have heard the rumor that it is going to be Independence Day (July 4th) is this true??

 

[ladyliberty]

BTW - I think that would be the BEST DAY EVER!!

 

[NoPants]

I have heard the rumor that it is going to be Independence Day (July 4th) is this true??

We don't know yet, but I don't think that's a good day. It would be too easy to overshadow the event with the general festivities. I'm hoping for May 25th.

My reasoning for May 25th...

• It's later, but not too late.
• It's on a Sunday so we'd have the weekend to travel.
• It's the day before Memorial Day holiday so it's a 3 day weekend.
• The southern schools (and colleges) get out in early May so they'll already be out of school.
• Student's on the East coast won't have as far to travel and won't miss any class' because it's a holiday the day after