This Is Big, Really .... Really Big.

[Molly1]

What does it cost to get Ron Paul's name all over the car like in that picture at your website?

 

[Libertyiswinning]

Not to be a wet blanket, but I think 75 million people is misleading. It's an audience of 2 million people per race for 35 races. More than likely the vast majority of those people are the same people who watch consistently. Repetition is a good thing, but I keep thinking that local newspaper ads are really the most effective use of money. That's how our only county in Iowa was won.

Also, isn't $80,000 just for the first couple of races?

Hey, if people donate and it gets going then great.

You are totally incorrect.

75 million Americans are nascar fans.(40% are women)

$100k($80k or so still needed) is to SECURE the deal for the entire season.
$300k covers the entire season(meaning $200k after the deal is secured)

I got all of this information from their website.

http://www.ronpaulracing.com

 

[Libertyiswinning]

What does it cost to get Ron Paul's name all over the car like in that picture at your website?

Its not my website.

I have nothing to do with the website.

I only thought it was a good idea so I posted my thoughts

Not sure what it would cost for an entire car(probably depends on the owner/driver status)

I'd guess $2mil a season

 

[freedomintheusa]

Campaign Help

With all the money the campaign has; why dont they think of stuff like this? I dont get it...They should contact the campaign or something about this..

WE cannot be in connection with the campaign... have to stay seperate of it according to FEC

 

[freedomintheusa]

Full CAR

Its not my website.

I have nothing to do with the website.

I only thought it was a good idea so I posted my thoughts

Not sure what it would cost for an entire car(probably depends on the owner/driver status)

I'd guess $2mil a season

IT is 150k Per RACE, and up

 

[Johncjackson]

I am going to call BS on the supposed fact that 75 million people watch Busch ( or whatever its called now) minor league Nascar racing.

 

[Libertyiswinning]

I am going to call BS on the supposed fact that 75 million people watch Busch ( or whatever its called now) minor league Nascar racing.

I did not say that. I said 75 million Americans are NASCAR FANS..... 40% women

From what I understand from reading, if the money is there in time, it would be on the car for Daytona's "minor league" Nascar race.

How many people do you think will watch the"minor league" race the day before the Daytona 500 in anticipation of the BIG ONE??

Also, do you realize that many of the Cup drivers participate in the Nationwide Series(formally Busch series) at Daytona and other tracks?

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

You are totally incorrect.

75 million Americans are nascar fans.(40% are women)

$100k($80k or so still needed) is to SECURE the deal for the entire season.
$300k covers the entire season(meaning $200k after the deal is secured)

I got all of this information from their website.

http://www.ronpaulracing.com

From ronpaulracing.com:

"All 35 races in the series will be televised (on either ABC or ESPN2), with an average viewership of 2 million households per race!"

No way its a brand new 2 million people every week.

From Yahoosports.com:

"NASCAR, based on the television ratings of its "Super Bowl" race – February's Daytona 500 – has about 37 million fans in America – maybe a few million more if you believe someone can be a fan and miss the biggest event of the year.

Either way, that number is far lower than NASCAR's long-claimed 75 million fans, which never has stood up to reality. "

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=dw-confederateflag100906&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

37 million is still a TON, but that's just one race, and if the Daytona 500 is the equivalent of the Super Bowl, that means there are a lot fewer who actually follow it on a consistent basis.

If the support is there to fund it, terrific. I just don't think 75 million people are going to see Ron Paul's name.

 

[NathanTurner]

Just because you can get Ron Paul's name on a race car or two doesn't mean people who read it will vote for him. If it does, then surely his name will be drowned out by Hillary, Obama, McCain and Huckabee on a daily basis. The simple fact of the matter is that a minority of total voters turned out to get Paul's name on the ballot. All of his enthusiastic supporters went out and voted in their state's primary. I know I did. Yet he still received very few total delegates. What options are left now, with most states being finished? A Write-in campaign? Even if we turned out the same number of people that voted for him during the primaries, it still wouldn't be enough. What we should focus on now shouldn't be how we can give more money to a failing and mismanaged campaign, but where the money we have already given is going.

Hell, I just visited Ron Paul's official website in which he essentially said he was turning his back on this failed campaign, cutting down his staff, and focusing on keeping his congressional seat. During this campaign, I have not seen ANY advertising done by or for Ron Paul. I haven't seen any information being distributed; I was not called by any Ron Paul vote banks; nothing. In other words, most people where I'm from didn't even know he existed, beyond what I have been telling them; and I wouldn't have known about him and his policies except for the fact that I've been an Old Right Constitutional Conservative for years. If all of these millions of dollars we've given haven't even translated into a few TV ads or phone calls, why should we pay for getting his name on a couple of cars that will reach people AFTER the majority of the primaries have already been held?

I also don't buy the idea that Paul's presence in the Congress will really make that much of a difference in Washington. He's been in government for decades now; how has his lone votes of "no" and his vocal opposition to government corruption changed anything? This time, we had a real chance for change; and his campaign was entirely ineffectual and apparently mismanaged, because outside of this website, I haven't seen ANY "Ron Paul compaign!" And for all of this, Ron Paul has essentially said that he is going to worry more about keeping his job than using our funds for creating real change in Washington. There is nothing big about this; it's over, at least for now. I just hope that other Constitutional Conservatives or even Ron Paul himself are able to wage a better campaign in the future.

 

[Libertyiswinning]

Anyway ..... I'm done posting on here. I didn't realize I would be attacked for trying to do good.

We are all supposed to be working together to try to make things happen. After all, as Dr. Paul says, this is our revolution and he is just happy to be lucky enough to be a part of it.

This freaking wears me out trying to combat my own team ... I don't care what anyone does, but don't try to stop me for doing what I feel is right..................... BYE

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

tt

 

[Libertyiswinning]

From ronpaulracing.com:

"All 35 races in the series will be televised (on either ABC or ESPN2), with an average viewership of 2 million households per race!"

No way its a brand new 2 million people every week.

From Yahoosports.com:

"NASCAR, based on the television ratings of its "Super Bowl" race – February's Daytona 500 – has about 37 million fans in America – maybe a few million more if you believe someone can be a fan and miss the biggest event of the year.

Either way, that number is far lower than NASCAR's long-claimed 75 million fans, which never has stood up to reality. "

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=dw-confederateflag100906&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

37 million is still a TON, but that's just one race, and if the Daytona 500 is the equivalent of the Super Bowl, that means there are a lot fewer who actually follow it on a consistent basis.

If the support is there to fund it, terrific. I just don't think 75 million people are going to see Ron Paul's name.

OK ... this really is my last post ..... but go watch the stinking video on the front page of this website i'm talking about .... and it claims there are 75 million nascar fans here ..... ok, i'm not just pulling this out of my ass mr skepticism. BYE



PS. Awesome picture, thanks RonPaulFanInGA

 

[freedomintheusa]

All Non Believers Go Some Wher Else

This is from the heart of RonPaulRacing's Founder.....................................................Go, Ron, Go!
Ron Paul has worked his guts out to get as far as he could in the establishment system. He has run well and is continuing to run all the way to the end. If Dr Paul says it you can take it to the bank.

I see some fair-weather supporters running for the exits. I say goodbye…and good riddance.

This isn’t a campaign, it’s a movement. This movement is deep and wide and varied as it gets, it’s not going away.

We’re not going away either.

We have a chance to put the message of freedom and small, Constitutional government in front of over 75 MILLION spectators and TV viewers who love NASCAR. And we can do it without any help from the news media.

We can continue promoting this message for not just one race, but through the summer, the GOP convention, and through November 2008. We have a venue and a potential spokesman who receives attention on TV, print and radio around the world. We can get this media exposure for pennies per person through NASCAR sponsorship.

Don’t give up the fight…for the fight has just begun.

Thank you.

R. W. Conrad
RPR/GM

 

[phoenixzorn]

Busch Series is not "Minor League", the Daytona 500 is the biggest race in all of racing. I'm not a NASCAR fan, per se, but I will be watching the Daytona 500 and the race the day before!! It's like the Superbowl of racing... the first big race of the season, and it is nationally televised, on network TV AND CABLE, and LIVE STREAM on the internet, AND SIRIUS and XM Satellites.

None of you who are bitching about this have EVER stood next to a NASCAR in person... 18"x12" is about 3/4ths the size of the Shark logo on the car pictured a few pages back. It's a HORIZONTAL 18" long, and 12" TALL... that's a HUGE logo, and for $300,000 for the entire year to sponsor two cars, that's an incredible bargain. Who the hell is Scanner Scott? Why are we trusting some people and not others, who all have the same agenda? If 4,000 people each donate $20.00, both cars would be sponsored for the Daytona 500 and the next 3 races after that.... if we continue to raise money after the initial $100,000, we can continue to have coverage in additional races, and $300,000 covers the whole season with the 18"x12" banner.

YES, for $150,000 per race, we could absolutely cover the entire car in Ron Paul ads and banners... We could cover an entire car in the Constitution, with a big ass picture of Ron Paul's face on the hood... We could have 75,000,000 people see these cars, and wonder "Who is Ron Paul?"

20% of the population of this country actually knows who Ron Paul is... I watched a lot of races last year because my friends own a bar, and the patrons like to watch races, and I NEVER saw a Ron Paul ad or banner above the track... But I guarantee I would have seen it if it were stuck on the side of ANY car...

You guys who are dismissing this as a scam are idiots... It's no different than a billboard, blimp, or any other fundraising drive for Ron Paul, only that some jackass who hasn't earned my trust any more than ronpaulracing.com has said that it's a scam because HE'S not in control of it... What the fuck is that? So now for any fundraising for Ron Paul to be legit, it has to be sponsored by Scanner Scott and the Granny's?? Please, stop this bullshit, donate to what you want to, and stfu about your little conspiracy theories... Pretty sure everyone here can afford $20.00, and if not, oh well...

Put up or shut up, and stop bashing an idea just because YOU didn't come up with it.

DISCLAIMER: I have NOTHING at all to do with Ron Paul Racing... I am a supporter of Ron Paul, I am a precinct leader in Waterloo, WI... I have no interest whatsoever in getting RonPaulRacing.com funded, except for the opportunity to have our Candidate on display on the side of a car... two cars... for the entire NASCAR season. An Associate Advertiser on a NASCAR machine is GOLD for Ron's Campaign... SOLID GOLD, and anyone who opposes it, sounds like the mole/anti-supporter to me.

 

[MsDoodahs]

Your money, kids, and do with it what you will.

That said, IMO, this is yet another total waste of money.

 

[freedomintheusa]

Well Put

 

[freedomintheusa]

well said

Busch Series is not "Minor League", the Daytona 500 is the biggest race in all of racing. I'm not a NASCAR fan, per se, but I will be watching the Daytona 500 and the race the day before!! It's like the Superbowl of racing... the first big race of the season, and it is nationally televised, on network TV AND CABLE, and LIVE STREAM on the internet, AND SIRIUS and XM Satellites.

None of you who are bitching about this have EVER stood next to a NASCAR in person... 18"x12" is about 3/4ths the size of the Shark logo on the car pictured a few pages back. It's a HORIZONTAL 18" long, and 12" TALL... that's a HUGE logo, and for $300,000 for the entire year to sponsor two cars, that's an incredible bargain. Who the hell is Scanner Scott? Why are we trusting some people and not others, who all have the same agenda? If 4,000 people each donate $20.00, both cars would be sponsored for the Daytona 500 and the next 3 races after that.... if we continue to raise money after the initial $100,000, we can continue to have coverage in additional races, and $300,000 covers the whole season with the 18"x12" banner.

YES, for $150,000 per race, we could absolutely cover the entire car in Ron Paul ads and banners... We could cover an entire car in the Constitution, with a big ass picture of Ron Paul's face on the hood... We could have 75,000,000 people see these cars, and wonder "Who is Ron Paul?"

20% of the population of this country actually knows who Ron Paul is... I watched a lot of races last year because my friends own a bar, and the patrons like to watch races, and I NEVER saw a Ron Paul ad or banner above the track... But I guarantee I would have seen it if it were stuck on the side of ANY car...

You guys who are dismissing this as a scam are idiots... It's no different than a billboard, blimp, or any other fundraising drive for Ron Paul, only that some jackass who hasn't earned my trust any more than ronpaulracing.com has said that it's a scam because HE'S not in control of it... What the fuck is that? So now for any fundraising for Ron Paul to be legit, it has to be sponsored by Scanner Scott and the Granny's?? Please, stop this bullshit, donate to what you want to, and stfu about your little conspiracy theories... Pretty sure everyone here can afford $20.00, and if not, oh well...

Put up or shut up, and stop bashing an idea just because YOU didn't come up with it.

DISCLAIMER: I have NOTHING at all to do with Ron Paul Racing... I am a supporter of Ron Paul, I am a precinct leader in Waterloo, WI... I have no interest whatsoever in getting RonPaulRacing.com funded, except for the opportunity to have our Candidate on display on the side of a car... two cars... for the entire NASCAR season. An Associate Advertiser on a NASCAR machine is GOLD for Ron's Campaign... SOLID GOLD, and anyone who opposes it, sounds like the mole/anti-supporter to me.

Get-ER-Done Go Ron Paul

 

[Opulen]

At least some people are doing something about media coverage. Go ROn Paul Racing!!

 

[chucksheen]

I can't believe this is so affordable. I don't see any reason why this can't and shouldn't be done. In fact, this MUST happen. Who is still holding their torch of liberty? I'll never put mine down no matter how broken down I am.

 

[freedomintheusa]

Yes it is the Herminator KENNY WALLACE you heard it here first. now go see for yourself.......http://www.ronpaulracing.com/blog/?p=35