This Is Big, Really .... Really Big.

Yeah.. And the millions of blimp fans line up on sofas and in stands in their blimp tshirts and hats every Sunday watching a blimp go by. Hardly a realistic comparisom yer making. And Americans are not swayed by such gimmicks. Hence the money of all the other advertisers and sponsor is pure waste and tomfoolery.

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Randy

It has been done last year with airplanes flying banners over races.

And other NASCAR sponsors actually have PRODUCTS that they sell to people YEAR AFTER YEAR.

Not an election that will BE OVER by the time the sponsorship is started.

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A new poster??? I realize it says January, but I've been here since early January. Look at the dates of my posts and what my comments say, idiot. I donated to Ron Paul in the first quarter of 2007. I was part of his first $600k. DO NOT ACCUSE ME OF ANYTHING. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY SITE...... I am a flooring installer. I have been supporting RP for over 1 year... so please kiss my ass.

I just think this would be VERY BIG therefore I posted my feelings, jerk.

Me thinks ye call names too much. Why so defensive? I haven't called you a name, but it's becoming a pattern with you in this thread.
 
I had to lose the giant font dude.

Yes, I DO have an effective project.

It's running educational ads with donations that are even tax deductible.

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Great, then promote it. All I ask is that people start bashing on everyone else's projects.
 
Me thinks ye call names too much. Why so defensive? I haven't called you a name, but it's becoming a pattern with you in this thread.

I'm name calling because you're accusing me of things that are not true. Good reason to be defensive? I think so.
 
It's called having common sense on how to best spend $300,000 to GAIN VOTES for Ron..

[size=+2]Great. If you have $300,000 then spend it however you want. If you don't then why don't you STFU about how other people want to spend their money? I'm sick of all the naysaying, that only brings negative energy..[/size]
 
It has been done last year with airplanes flying banners over races.

And other NASCAR sponsors actually have PRODUCTS that they sell to people YEAR AFTER YEAR.

Not an election that will BE OVER by the time the sponsorship is started.

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[size=+2]Dude, we get it. You're not going to donate to this project. Now will you please STFU?[/size]
 
Why try to convince others not to donate???

I'm not a NASCAR fan but there is one thing I do know about NASCAR fans. They are fanatic. I'm not joking. They will know every sponsor on their favorite team and support them.

My old company sponsored a NASCAR Busch series car for a single season. We were a small company but our owner knew one of the team managers so we decided to risk it. We had the back deck lid, the back quarter panel, the rear bumper, the doors, and the hood. But we weren't a very good team and didn't qualify in several of the races, so we never got the exposure we could have.

Yet STILL, the response was CRAZY. This is NO JOKE.

The transporter that carries the cars and the equipment ALONE is seen by everyone at the race and it is an 18-wheeler that serves as a giant billboard as it travels from race to race. Over 100,000 miles this thing will travel with the message on the side of it. Every city it stopped at, we saw traffic hit the site. Even when there wasn't a race and the team was just traveling through.

I'm telling you, this shit works. I know it doesn't make sense and to be honest I don't even get why people like watching cars driving in a circle. But I saw the results as I was managing our website.

It was friggin crazy. On the races we didn't qualify for we saw tens of thousands of hits just from people who saw the race in qualifying rounds on TV.

On the races we DID qualify for, we would get hundreds of thousands of hits and on one race that we placed in the top 10 we had over 3 million hits on the site because the car was covered constantly and the announcers were talking about it.

It cost us about $500k for ONE car with a sorta crappy driver.

The fact that this deal was made for $300k is actually quite amazing.

But remember that this is just the beginning. More money raised means more coverage. Even our last money bomb that was only about 1 million would be more than enough to get a lot more than the back quarter panel of the car.

This is no gimmick. It works. I'm not sure why it works but it does. These fans are loyal and if their favorite driver told them to jump off a bridge they'd do it.


This post is not from a new poster like me, and he's not a nascar fan, and what he says has impressed me. If we can trust truthatlast's experience in this type of ad, this would at least get people to click on the website. I haven't seen the decal but perhaps the whole space should be dedicated to just the web link and a catch-phrase (ronpaul2008.com-the race for freedom is on)

Mark and others are trying to get others not to invest in what seems to be a gimmicky idea. They say they could spend 300k better as if they already had raised it all. That's their opinion. I say instead of dissing so vehemently the ideas of others, go make up your own plan, propose it here take and all the money you get turn it into votes, and let the rest of us make up our own minds. Buying banners at tracks is not he same as being ON the car, AND on the semi-trailer, don't keep saying it is.

Americans like cars more than blimps, and even for the many nascar folks who have heard of RP, they would be reminded that he has not dropped out. I haven't been impressed by the TV and radio ads produced either.

The fun racing atmosphere is a good place to catch potential voters with their guards down as well. I'm inclined to give it 20 bucks, and I'd like to see this thing work.
 
The racing site says its $300K...






Well thats wierd...you might want to let shark energy drink know that

http://www.sharkusa.com/sharkracing/shark_fitz.htm

HERES THE CAR

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So there you go folks...IF RonPaulRacing did get the funds it would be a small decal. Not sayin thats bad, but the OP was leading people to believe differently

whos supposed to be driving the other car btw?
 
I have been right on the edge of being depressed lately because of how things seem to be going. The reason I wrote and posted this is because I would like to believe something good or great can still happen before its too late.

I saw this site posted somewhere and thought it would be awesome if it could happen. Maybe I'm wrong. If so, I just wasted $20 that I currently don't have to spare. I want to believe the future is a nation, and world, without tyranny. I don't know. Its easier to believe the future looks BAD.

I'm just trying to keep my head up and do the right thing. The right thing, imo, is to do everything I can to try to make a difference.
 
whos supposed to be driving the other car btw?

I'm not sure who the other driver would be. The site didn't even say "Kenny Wallace" but after doing some research I found that he was the only driver who has been voted the "most popular driver" 3 times in this series.

I guess the way to find out would be to find out who the owner of the car Wallace will be driving for is, and see what other car he owns. This would lead to finding out who the other driver is.

Sorry, I would go look right now if I had the ambition but unfortunately its been beat out of me by people accusing me of CRAP.
 
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If Ron Paul runs third party I'll support just about anything but I'll be damned if I'm going to lift a finger to support the GOP. If Ron Paul remains in the GOP at this stage he will have lost a lot of my respect. A lot of people spent a lot of money supporting a run for the presidency. I think it's complete rip off for the campaign to be using those funds for his congressional seat.
 
fair enough

I'm against it and I've watched NASCAR for years.

Amazing that MOST of the supporters, just like those who attacked those asking REAL questions about the blimp,

ARE MOSTLY BRAND NEW POSTERS who have shown up just to PROMOTE a idea that would rake in hundreds of thousands of dollars for the creators.



Why was the software used for myspace messages to promote the first moneybomb professional SPAMMER software?

WHY did the people involved in the first moneybomb have PROFESSIONAL SPAMMER SOFTWARE?

Maybe because they are PROFESSIONAL SPAMMERS?

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Actually, I went onto the web site and recognized the name Kathleen from my local meet-up group. I know she's above board and legit. She's been instrumental in designing and funding numerous billboards on I-75 in Ohio.

I'm more interested in using this as a campaign tool for long term Revolution goals and I see no reason why 1000 or so like minded people couldn't donate $300 per year to make this an ongoing effort. I will be keeping tabs on Liberty Racing.

Yes, I'm a new poster I suppose, although I've been reading this forum much longer than I've been posting to it.
 
If Ron Paul runs third party I'll support just about anything but I'll be damned if I'm going to lift a finger to support the GOP. If Ron Paul remains in the GOP at this stage he will have lost a lot of my respect. A lot of people spent a lot of money supporting a run for the presidency. I think it's complete rip off for the campaign to be using those funds for his congressional seat.

Yeah, I agree he shouldn't be using the funds for his congressional seat, but I still love the man. He can use my donations for whatever. I'm just trying to remain positive and its getting tougher all the time.

I will not be a republican anymore either unless things get better in the party.
 
he's not

If Ron Paul runs third party I'll support just about anything but I'll be damned if I'm going to lift a finger to support the GOP. If Ron Paul remains in the GOP at this stage he will have lost a lot of my respect. A lot of people spent a lot of money supporting a run for the presidency. I think it's complete rip off for the campaign to be using those funds for his congressional seat.

It's illegal to use presidential campaign funds for his congressional race. Of course if you knew Dr. Paul and what he stands for and really believed the truth about his integrity you wouldn't be accusing him of this
 
If Ron Paul runs third party I'll support just about anything but I'll be damned if I'm going to lift a finger to support the GOP. If Ron Paul remains in the GOP at this stage he will have lost a lot of my respect. A lot of people spent a lot of money supporting a run for the presidency. I think it's complete rip off for the campaign to be using those funds for his congressional seat.


Welcome to the board. You're being a bit negative over false information.

Presidential donations can not be used in the Congressional race unless Ron drops out of it, which he's not, thus the need for donations to his Congressional run.

http://www.ronpaulforcongress.com/

We need to take over the GOP while it's weak.

The GOP's platform is almost identical to Ron's, but it's been taken over by neo-cons.

We need to take it back
from the bad ideas that have overrun it and wasted positive potential.
 
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