This Is Big, Really .... Really Big.

[TruthAtLast]

Did you miss the part about where THIS WAS DONE LAST YEAR with banners being flown ALL DAY OVERHEAD RACES?

How many people that would see the decal CAN STILL VOTE FOR RON?

OVER half of the states HAVE ALREADY VOTED. THERE ISN'T MUCH TIME LEFT.

We NEED to TARGET SPECIFIC VOTERS that CAN STILL VOTE for Ron this year.

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I agree 100% about targeting specific voters and even moreso, signing up delegates but for a measly 300k, we can do both. These races will be televised across the country and in this day and age, people know people in other states as well. The publicity is also not localized. NASCAR travels all over. There are hundreds of radio stations across the U.S. that are ONLY dedicated to NASCAR including XM Radion and Serius Radio and they may mention the fact that Ron Paul is on one of the cars. Countless blogs are also dedicated to NASCAR and they may also mention it, especially if the driver promotes it (which is his job to do).

This doesn't require ANY effort. It just requires money. That's it. I've donated to everything. Billboards, Radio, Blimp, Racing, maxed out on the Presidential campaign and donated to the Congressional campaign.

It isn't the ONLY idea we have, it is just ONE idea out there and there is no reason why we would not be capable of doing more than one. We are talking pennies compared to the type of money we raise without hardly even trying.

Of course we want to target specific voters, but I don't see any other solid plans out there. The billboard already has its funded. If they want to put up 10 more billboards, I'll donate to them too.

Anyone who doesn't like the idea is welcome to come up with another one. I'm listening.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

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Sorry, I would go look right now if I had the ambition but unfortunately its been beat out of me by people accusing me of CRAP.

Don't let em get to ya You shoulda seen the hubub during the AD and the BLIMP - LOL

m - cat herders make me laugh...

 

[Libertyiswinning]

Major Associate Sponsorship includes:

Personal appearances by the team’s “Show Car” at special events (in fact, the Show Car will be traveling through Texas on March 4th, the date of the Texas Primary!)

The possibility of a personal appearance by one of the team’s drivers (this is very tentative and depends on his schedule)

Signage on the team’s Transport Vehicle (the 18-wheeler that transports the cars from race to race–it’s a moving billboard that travels over 100,000 miles of freeways per year)

An 18″ x 12″ decal on both sides of the car

Signage on the Pit Equipment

Permission to include a Decal/Button on the Race Team’s uniform

 

[faraway]

Is this all a scam or what?

There's a huge thread over at ronpaulwarroom saying this is all a scam!! I thought it could work but now I don't know if its for real or not. . . maybe check this out b4 donating

http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=4137#comment-42500.

Can anyone here confirm or deny??

 

[JulioForPaul]

whos supposed to be driving the other car btw?

The 12 inch $300,000.00 "Ron Paul Ad" would be the same size as those 15 or so ads to the right of the #36. Barely visible.

 

[Libertyiswinning]

Don't let em get to ya You shoulda seen the hubub during the AD and the BLIMP - LOL

m - cat herders make me laugh...

Thanks for the supportive advise. I'm trying to remain sane. :o

 

[Mark]

I'm interested in how this money could be better spent?

I'm a skeptic, I called the blimp from the beginning not being cost effective, and this makes much more sense.

We could run ads targeted to people that haven't voted yet, such as in Texas, that lay out the issues and each candidate's positions on them.

Here's a website being built that has a issue comparison table like could be included in ads.

http://TheConservativeAlternative.com

With my method, the donations are even tax deductible, and foreign nationals can contribute too.


Non U.S. Citizens - Maxed Out Donors - U.S. Tax Deductible Donation Idea for Ads

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1243397

 

[Kregener]

Let me guess.

You are a NASCAR fan?

I too enjoy NASCAR racing. But no car has EVER prompted me to rush out and spend a single dime on any product endorsed.

Sorry.

 

[Libertyiswinning]

I hope its real because I did post this and donated. I would feel like a real idiot and surely accused of many things if its not.

Just be aware that the warroom is not patrolled for .. trolls. I think its real. I have seen nothing that proves otherwise. Actually, the ronpaulracing site has the Federal election commision's site posted on their blog ...... this tells me its real.

 

[Mark]

I agree 100% about targeting specific voters and even moreso, signing up delegates but for a measly 300k, we can do both. These races will be televised across the country and in this day and age, people know people in other states as well. The publicity is also not localized. NASCAR travels all over. There are hundreds of radio stations across the U.S. that are ONLY dedicated to NASCAR including XM Radion and Serius Radio and they may mention the fact that Ron Paul is on one of the cars. Countless blogs are also dedicated to NASCAR and they may also mention it, especially if the driver promotes it (which is his job to do).

This doesn't require ANY effort. It just requires money. That's it. I've donated to everything. Billboards, Radio, Blimp, Racing, maxed out on the Presidential campaign and donated to the Congressional campaign.

It isn't the ONLY idea we have, it is just ONE idea out there and there is no reason why we would not be capable of doing more than one. We are talking pennies compared to the type of money we raise without hardly even trying.

Of course we want to target specific voters, but I don't see any other solid plans out there. The billboard already has its funded. If they want to put up 10 more billboards, I'll donate to them too.

Anyone who doesn't like the idea is welcome to come up with another one. I'm listening.

But dude, the election WILL BE OVER before most of those races are run.

We need action NOW. They mention the car being in Texas THE DAY of the primary there. THAT'S TOO LATE.

WE NEED ads there NOW. Not a decal on a car the day of the primary.

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Here's an idea for donations that you could even DEDUCT from your taxes.


We could run ads targeted to people that haven't voted yet, such as in Texas, that lay out the issues and each candidate's positions on them.

Here's a website being built that has a issue comparison table like could be included in ads.

http://TheConservativeAlternative.com

With my method, the donations are even tax deductible, and foreign nationals can contribute too.


Non U.S. Citizens - Maxed Out Donors - U.S. Tax Deductible Donation Idea for Ads

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1243397

.

 

[TruthAtLast]

There's a huge thread over at ronpaulwarroom saying this is all a scam!! I thought it could work but now I don't know if its for real or not. . . maybe check this out b4 donating

http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=4137#comment-42500.

Can anyone here confirm or deny??

it isn't a scam. I like the billboard idea better but I think this idea could work too. The organization had one person that did some crazy things when it first started. The entire management changed, they then filed to be an official Political Action Committee and have abided by all of the campaign finance laws.

Anyone who doesn't want to donate. That's cool. For those that think it might be a good idea, that's cool too. But you can't fault someone for just trying to promote the idea and spread the message.

Yes, there MIGHT be better ways to spend that money, but I don't see any of those ideas organized right now (at least not ones that I havne't already donated to). I don't see the campaign effectively spending the money they already have either. At least here I know what it is going toward.

It seems like we do money bombs more for symbolism so that the Media knows we are still here, rather thanto give HQ the funds to actually effectively promote Ron Paul. And I'm ok with that. And I'll continue to support those money bombs because symbolism IS important for the overall goal of the message.

I'd also support educational ads. It is a great idea. Show me a link and I'll donate.

This is a legit promotional opportunity and it doesn't hurt to throw $20 at it. I dropped more than that at lunch today (portabella burger)

 

[TruthAtLast]

We could run ads targeted to people that haven't voted yet, such as in Texas, that lay out the issues and each candidate's positions on them.

Here's a website being built that has a issue comparison table like could be included in ads.

http://TheConservativeAlternative.com

I like this idea too. When it is ready, I'll donate to it.

 

[trapfive]

dude

The 12 inch $300,000.00 "Ron Paul Ad" would be the same size as those 15 or so ads to the right of the #36. Barely visible.

What do you expect for 300k, that would probably cover the tire bill on a Nationwide team for the season. My knowledge of racing and sponsorship would lead me to believe it would be an associate sponsorship (bigger than those you mention which are a slate of sponsors carried by all the cars)

Once again, it's not about the size and if can be seen at 200 mph. Sponsorship on a car, over an entire season (35 races), places the effort in a different category among race fans.

It gives the sponsor a platform that goes way beyond simple high profile visibility and it works.

 

[Libertyiswinning]

But dude, the election WILL BE OVER before most of those races are run.

We need action NOW. They mention the car being in Texas THE DAY of the primary there. THAT'S TOO LATE.

WE NEED ads there NOW. Not a decal on a car the day of the primary.

------------------------


Here's an idea for donations that you could even DEDUCT from your taxes.


We could run ads targeted to people that haven't voted yet, such as in Texas, that lay out the issues and each candidate's positions on them.

Here's a website being built that has a issue comparison table like could be included in ads.

http://TheConservativeAlternative.com

With my method, the donations are even tax deductible, and foreign nationals can contribute too.


Non U.S. Citizens - Maxed Out Donors - U.S. Tax Deductible Donation Idea for Ads

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1243397

.

Yeah Mark. Your idea has worked wonders so far ...... look at Ron Paul just bursting out of the seams of this country.

Ads?? Ads where? People barely read newspapers anymore. That is why they are going BK. I'm not against it, but why are you so against this?? Do you know who Herman is? Know his personality? Watch the shows he co-hosts? He is a truely moral dude who treats his sponsors well.

I really don't care, whatever works BETTER THAN WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN GOING ON because things look like dung.

 

[pacelli]

How will that actually gain votes for Ron?

Or is it just another waste of hundreds of thousands of dollars that could be used to canvass with and run ads
that actually convince people to vote for Ron.

There are only so many states that will vote from here on out. We DO NOT NEED such a national "who is Ron Paul" effort.

We NEED to TARGET states and VOTERS that can STILL vote for Ron. We DON'T NEED another "gimmick" that wastes hundreds of thousands of dollars.

+1 80k should go to ron's congressional run first.

 

[zbus12]

I'm sold! I think its a good Idea!

 

[faraway]

OK, thanks for clearing that up, it seemed a bit too elaborate to be a rip-off. For sure new support will come from it, potential revolutionaries are everywhere and we can't discredit any project carried forth with enthusiasm. We're bound to hit on something that works!!!

 

[pacelli]

How many people that would see the decal CAN STILL VOTE FOR RON?

OVER half of the states HAVE ALREADY VOTED. THERE ISN'T MUCH TIME LEFT.

We NEED to TARGET SPECIFIC VOTERS that CAN STILL VOTE for Ron this year.

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I agree. Ultimately the free market will decide.

 

[Molly1]

If Ron Paul runs third party I'll support just about anything but I'll be damned if I'm going to lift a finger to support the GOP. If Ron Paul remains in the GOP at this stage he will have lost a lot of my respect. A lot of people spent a lot of money supporting a run for the presidency. I think it's complete rip off for the campaign to be using those funds for his congressional seat.

What are you talking about?

His presidential campaign will not be using its funds for his congressional seat. That is illegal.

Don't accuse people of things they are not doing.

Especially Ron Paul.

We get enough of that from the crooked media to have to put up with it here.

He's going to stay in the GOP and he's going to win the nomination, and we will all be there as delegates voting him in.

Carry on!

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

Not to be a wet blanket, but I think 75 million people is misleading. It's an audience of 2 million people per race for 35 races. More than likely the vast majority of those people are the same people who watch consistently. Repetition is a good thing, but I keep thinking that local newspaper ads are really the most effective use of money. That's how our only county in Iowa was won.

Also, isn't $80,000 just for the first couple of races?

Hey, if people donate and it gets going then great.