This is a test...

And lets not forget that the guy who found the suspect in his boat didn't go outside until his masters allowed him to be released from "lockdown." Had he not been "allowed" to go outside (on his own damned property mind you) he likely would have remained cowering inside his house -- and the suspect might have been able to escape.

I also don't understand why the police are getting all the credit when it was a mundane/citizen that finally found him. In any place other than MA the mundane could have either detained the guy at gunpoint , or shot him -- no cops needed except for hauling him off to jail, or the morgue.

Yeah, it really turned out to be much ado about nothing. I shutter to think of the money spent on that operation. Yet, the kid wasn't found until they told people they could walk outside again. What a cluster....
 
Yeah, it really turned out to be much ado about nothing. I shutter to think of the money spent on that operation. Yet, the kid wasn't found until they told people they could walk outside again. What a cluster....

And yet we're seeing the celebration by the State for their success and being put in harms way. I haven't seen one "spotlight" yet on the victims of the bombing, but I have of a shot policeman.

It's so damn obvious, why don't the rest of my fellow mudanes see it too?
 
I was thinking this (is a test) too. Shocked there hasn't been a single resident not to allow the warrant-less invasions yet!

If 12 heavily armed soldier cops came to your doorstep, you would resist? Live to fight another day.
 
I'm curious, with regards to how they conducted the manhunt, what would you guys see as a proper way to handle this situation?

I do not see masked militarized men searching door to door as acceptable even if searching for the most evil violent human on the planet.

Whether it's apathy, conditioning or fear that has emasculated the citizenry to the point that this behavior is acceptable matters naught.

Neighbors must learn to band together rather than isolate themselves and permit military style sweeps of their dwellings....I would have no problem with neighbors donning body armor and brandishing fully automatic weapons in defense of one-another but when federally subsidized mercenaries are brought in to "lock-down" or take control of a neighborhood, that's tyranny! Heck I even view these actions as martial law.

Simply removing federal oversight, funding and control from the situation would go a long way toward alleviating the appearance of martial law.

Neighbors defending themselves is noble, hired mercenaries taking control is not!

So to answer your question;

"They" should not be handling manhunts, "we" should...

The face knocking on your door should be known to you.
 
If 12 heavily armed soldier cops came to your doorstep, you would resist? Live to fight another day.

Yeah, honestly I'd probably fold - or Lady_V3n would make me. I was just hoping there'd be someone older and grumpier than me in Watertown.
 
It isn't martial law. People are not prohibited from leaving their homes. Civil law has not been suspended. The 4th amendment has not been suspended. People are voluntarily cooperating with the "authorities". Presumably because they are of one mind that they want the murderer caught as soon as possible.

Repeat - this is not martial law.

True, however, martial law was declared in Mass this winter, over a snowstorm.

The order went out, you would be fined/arrested if found out on the roads.

That's close enough to me, even if, nominally, trials have not been suspended.

There are are few or no real trial left and few if any 4th Amendment protections left.

Think we're just arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin at this point.
 
If it looks like a duck and acts like a duck (and is a genetic match to a duck) it doesn't matter what the duck calls himself. He's a duck.
 
I do not see masked militarized men searching door to door as acceptable even if searching for the most evil violent human on the planet.

Whether it's apathy, conditioning or fear that has emasculated the citizenry to the point that this behavior is acceptable matters naught.

Neighbors must learn to band together rather than isolate themselves and permit military style sweeps of their dwellings....I would have no problem with neighbors donning body armor and brandishing fully automatic weapons in defense of one-another but when federally subsidized mercenaries are brought in to "lock-down" or take control of a neighborhood, that's tyranny! Heck I even view these actions as martial law.

Simply removing federal oversight, funding and control from the situation would go a long way toward alleviating the appearance of martial law.

Neighbors defending themselves is noble, hired mercenaries taking control is not!

So to answer your question;

"They" should not be handling manhunts, "we" should...

The face knocking on your door should be known to you.

I wouldnt trust a stranger/neighbor taking the law into his own hands either.
 
Just saw a pack of wild animals on the tube celebrating and chanting "Boston, Boston, Boston"

I can understand the relief but the celebrations are as if they had won the Super Bowl. In fact they had just scored a touch down in the 1st quarter. Imagine what people in actual war zones would say about a populous that was so frozen by fear. I'm not saying I would have been brave enough to venture out and walk the dog but nobody? Not a single person?
 
I can understand the relief but the celebrations are as if they had won the Super Bowl. In fact they had just scored a touch down in the 1st quarter. Imagine what people in actual war zones would say about a populous that was so frozen by fear. I'm not saying I would have been brave enough to venture out and walk the dog but nobody? Not a single person?
I would not be worried about a bomb blowing up but I probably wouldn't have ventured out. Not worth the hassle and you'd be running the risk of getting shot by the police. (or stripped naked and paraded as a suspect) No one would be searching my house without a warrant.
 
What the fuck is wrong with you people? These guys allegedly killed 3 people with bombs and another with guns. My brother heard the damn gunshots from the latter. You want to send few cops with side arms after guys who likely have more bombs (and now we know they did) and guns and who are more than happy to use them on people? You don't have a realistic suggestion.

I think this was handled well. It was not "STAY IN YOUR HOMES OR GET SHOT", it was "Stay inside, we're looking for guys with guns and bombs". My brother went out to get coffee and the shop was open (he lives in the heart of cambridge). Quelle horreur!!


Also, I look forward to seeing more of the evidence at trial so we can put the false flag conspiracies to rest (or not, if they end up validated).
 
What the fuck is wrong with you people? These guys allegedly killed 3 people with bombs and another with guns. My brother heard the damn gunshots from the latter. You want to send few cops with side arms after guys who likely have more bombs (and now we know they did) and guns and who are more than happy to use them on people? You don't have a realistic suggestion.

I think this was handled well. It was not "STAY IN YOUR HOMES OR GET SHOT", it was "Stay inside, we're looking for guys with guns and bombs". My brother went out to get coffee and the shop was open (he lives in the heart of cambridge). Quelle horreur!!


Also, I look forward to seeing more of the evidence at trial so we can put the false flag conspiracies to rest (or not, if they end up validated).

Oh, yes. That fair trial he will get. I can't wait.
 
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