“This is a system-wide collapse” - Texas border overwhelmed

pcosmar said:
It has nothing to do with Bitterness.. It has to do with coming and current reality.

and I said nothing of their lives,,, but that I welcome an end to this corruption.

and if they are not already prepared to stand before God,, well they are not my kids and that would be sad.

Satan is preparing to rule from Jerusalem.. and that will be bad wherever you are..
Are you helping him into power???
Are you promoting his Divisions??
Are you supporting his Wars??
Are you turning from the refugees,, and throwing in prisons??

I would like to think otherwise.


Not bitterness
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You are helping him burn down that which stands in his way and cheering on his barbarian hordes to kill and burn.
 
RJB said:
Unless I missed it, in the thread where it was requested to name open borders societies that thrived, no one could name any. I then tried to make it easier and asked for some societies with weak borders who thrived. Again no one could name any. If you want to talk history, find such a society that both thrived and remained free with weak borders.
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Walled police states don't have any thriving examples either. The fact is, things like walls and police states are necessary preliminary steps to implement totalitarian communist (or fascist) states. If I've learned anything it's that one of the biggest keys to how elites operate is to get people to want (consenting) what their plans call for, instead of forcefully implementing them on people and risking a direct revolt. If they can get someone like AF to actually advocate for the preliminary steps needed to implement a communist society, they're executing the plan brilliantly. Then later when the communist society is STILL implemented, everyone wonders how the hell it happened?

Duality mind tricks require that only two "options" to be presented, while neither option is a good option and ignoring all other options.
 
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devil21 said:
Opposing walls, opposing "papers please" police state enforcement, etc does not equal being an "open border person". For me, at least, it means being aware of history and how measures like that never end well for the existing populations. NEVER. Dr. Paul knows this as well.
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We are not advocating all of that (you open borders types always mix the good measures in with the bad) and it ends better than those times in history when hostile invaders are allowed in unchecked.
 
 
devil21 said:
Walled police states don't have any thriving examples either. The fact is, things like walls and police states are necessary preliminary steps to implement totalitarian communist states. If I've learned anything it's that one of the biggest keys to how elites operate is to get people to want (consenting) what their plans call for, instead of forcefully implementing them on people and risking a direct revolt. If they can get someone like AF to actually advocate for the preliminary steps needed to implement a communist society, they're executing the plan brilliantly. Then later when the communist society is STILL implemented, everyone wonders how the hell it happened?

Duality mind tricks require that only two "options" to be presented, while neither option is a good option and ignoring all other options.
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You are the one using a duality mind trick, we are not advocating for a police state.
 
devil21 said:
Walled police states don't have any thriving examples either. The fact is, things like walls and police states are necessary preliminary steps to implement totalitarian communist states. If I've learned anything it's that one of the biggest keys to how elites operate is to get people to want (consenting) what their plans call for, instead of forcefully implementing them on people and risking a direct revolt. If they can get someone like AF to actually advocate for the preliminary steps needed to implement a communist society, they're executing the plan brilliantly. Then later when the communist society is STILL implemented, everyone wonders how the hell it happened?

Duality mind tricks require that only two "options" to be presented, while neither option is a good option and ignoring all other options.
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Agreed in principle, but your solution(s) I have never seen work in the long run. The mob through THEIR system will overwhelm you, no matter how you dot the i's and cross the t's.
 
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devil21 said:
Walled police states don't have any thriving examples either. The fact is, things like walls and police states are necessary preliminary steps to implement totalitarian communist states. If I've learned anything it's that one of the biggest keys to how elites operate is to get people to want (consenting) what their plans call for, instead of forcefully implementing them on people and risking a direct revolt. If they can get someone like AF to actually advocate for the preliminary steps needed to implement a communist society, they're executing the plan brilliantly.

Duality mind tricks require that only two "options" to be presented, while neither option is a good option and ignoring all other options.
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No one on here is calling for a police state. The actual defense of a group of like minded people is one of the reasons people banded together. Getting conquered and over run is part of history.

And yes, I am aware that nation building, preventitive wars, war on drugs are all bs, but the defense of a border is legit. Every nation has that right, including our own
 
Swordsmyth said:
No.
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It was Alex Jones hype.

https://www.politifact.com/punditfa...ding-infowars-story-says-un-plans-flood-amer/

Misleading Infowars story says UN plans to 'flood America with 600 million migrants'

A misleading Infowars post claims there’s a United Nations plan to inundate the United States with hundreds of millions of immigrants.

"Revealed: UN plan to flood America with 600 million migrants," said the headline on a July 24 Infowars story. The site and its operator Alex Jones are known for peddling conspiracy theories.

The story said a 2001 UN strategy document "outlines the need to flood America and Europe with hundreds of millions of migrants in order to maintain population levels."
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So yeah, it was fake.
 
Zippyjuan said:
Link then? If not Jones, somebody citing him probably.

The UN report was a study about maintaining a country's population with declining birth rates- not replacing all the population already there.
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I told you I was having trouble finding it but it doesn't matter, maintaining a country's population with declining birth rates will result in more imported foreigners than natives anyway.
 
RJB said:
No one on here is calling for a police state. The actual defense of a group of like minded people is one of the reasons people banded together. Getting conquered and over run is part of history.

And yes, I am aware that nation building, preventitive wars, war on drugs are all bs, but the defense of a border is legit. Every nation has that right, including our own
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I've never had a problem with Border Patrol or even a military presence on the border. It's when people can't see the bigger picture that I have a problem with. The surveillance police state is very close to completion, thanks to 9/11. 9/11 was used as the excuse for the police state phase domestically, interestingly also under a conservative President. Now, it's immigrants being scapegoated to implement other measures that conservatives and libertarians would otherwise oppose such as calling for walling ourselves in like we're Palestinians. Fear the brown people that threaten you! It's all for your own safety, of course.
 
Swordsmyth said:
I told you I was having trouble finding it but it doesn't matter, maintaining a country's population with declining birth rates will result in more imported foreigners than natives anyway.
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Natives don't get imported so that is definitely true.
 
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