The Border is now a Military Base (The Roosevelt Reservation)

[nikcers]

The entire country is a military base due to the idea that the government can legally enact a military draft and order anyone man or woman to serve in the military.

It used to be just men but they changed it.

The United States national government head of state is our commander in chief.

 

[nikcers]

Hate to break it to you but the government has already been spying on us for a long time.

Not just the US government but every single major government in the world.

Especially because 100s of millions of people have TikTok spying on them.

 

[PAF]

Geez, it's like Jello with you.

Disobedience and noncompliance (both of which I highly recommend) have nothing to do with voting. No one is forcing you to vote, so you're not disobeying or not complying by not voting. Nor, do they require your consent to govern. I demonstrated that above.

Alcohol prohibition, marijuana prohibition didn't stop because of a voting boycott - quite the contrary.

Here's a link you may find useful to your original argument, though: you'll have to download it

This is how you provide evidence to support (or refute in this case) your argument. You know, actual examples and data rather than "feelings".

"Boycott", elections??? That underscores the belief that elections are actually meant to "do something" [or don't] "for the people" in a field of organized crime, and that once the "boycott" is lifted, things will be ROSY LOL

You keep bringing up "feelings". Perhaps it is you who is putting emotion into it. I myself am not, but merely providing the logic behind my decision not to vote. It is this simple: I do not give consent, and I don't transfer my rights to anybody. Nothing more, nothing less.

Hey, if you want to give express consent to federal Police State funding and shredding the Bill of Rights just because it is considered a "lesser of evil" to Kamala, who am I to stop you [past tense]? I figure if/when the People have had enough, in terms of funding, and living under Orwell, non-compliance will be the only remedy - not voting. Other than that, I have nothing else to prove one way or the other - the world is what people make of it, and they deserve everything that they get.

Oh, and don't forget to carry your papers, please ;-)

 

[Voluntarist]

Where'd you serve during the big one?

... The Roosevelt Reservation. We were lucky to make it out alive following the big onslaught of gardeners and bus boys crossing at Calexio. The mechanized division of Taco Trucks was more than we could resist. Only 99 of my men survived. The one fatality was a terminal case of Montezuma's revenge. We told him not to drink the water, but he wouldn't listen. All of us suffer PTSD from that one.

 

[PAF]

Hate to break it to you but the government has already been spying on us for a long time.

Of course, oh wise one, and that makes it just a-o-k and perfectly acceptable

 

[nikcers]

Where'd you serve during the big one?

... The Roosevelt Reservation. We were lucky to make it out alive following the big onslaught of gardeners and bus boys crossing at Calexio. The mechanized division of Taco Trucks was more than we could resist. Only 99 of my men survived. That last man went anaphylactic after a scorpion sting and never recovered. All of us suffer PTSD from that one.

In the Mexican war?

You know the one where we turned places that were Mexico into places that are Phoenix?

Of course if they turn Phoenix into Mexico its no less of a war.

 

[CaptUSA]

"Boycott", elections??? That underscores the belief that elections are actually meant to "do something" [or don't] "for the people" in a field of organized crime, and that once the "boycott" is lifted, things will be ROSY LOL

You keep bringing up "feelings". Perhaps it is you who is putting emotion into it. I myself am not, but merely providing the logic behind my decision not to vote. It is this simple: I do not give consent, and I don't transfer my rights to anybody. Nothing more, nothing less.

No, no, no...

You said:

If/when the People suddenly stop voting, that's when the government will fear the people.

Then I asked for evidence of that assertion. And you flailed about. You did some name-calling. You tried to change the subject. But you didn't back it up.

Listen, I'm open to it, but I'm going to need some concrete evidence that this could possibly be an effective strategy.

 

[nikcers]

No, no, no...

You said:


Then I asked for evidence of that assertion. And you flailed about. You did some name-calling. You tried to change the subject. But you didn't back it up.

Listen, I'm open to it, but I'm going to need some concrete evidence that this could possibly be an effective strategy.

Its not a strategy unless you think surrendering is a tactical strategy.

Voting is how we do bloodless war in our country.

 

[CaptUSA]

Its not a strategy unless you think surrendering is a tactical strategy.

Voting is how we do bloodless war in our country.

Ok, now you're going in another direction. You give WAY too much credence to voting. lol.

I've never said that voting actually solves things - only that the abstention from voting doesn't either. At best, voting allows the populace to oust incumbents. That's all well and good, except that the newcomers are often just as bad. I do think that voting is the mechanism for term limits - but it's the seat that has the power in our system; not the person holding that seat.

 

[nikcers]

Ok, now you're going in another direction. You give WAY too much credence to voting. lol.

I've never said that voting actually solves things - only that the abstention from voting doesn't either. At best, voting allows the populace to oust incumbents. That's all well and good, except that the newcomers are often just as bad. I do think that voting is the mechanism for term limits - but it's the seat that has the power in our system; not the person holding that seat.

We vote to decide who the government is.

We have guns to make sure that we are the government and the people we elect represent OUR interests.

In our country we have self government but when voting stops working there is the second option.

When we stop voting then voting doesn't work.

 

[PAF]

No, no, no...

You said:


Then I asked for evidence of that assertion. And you flailed about. You did some name-calling. You tried to change the subject. But you didn't back it up.

Listen, I'm open to it, but I'm going to need some concrete evidence that this could possibly be an effective strategy.

My point is this: When the people stop voting and instead begin to make exacting demands, that is when the government will fear the people. Going to a ballot box and accepting a peaceful outcome [oh, X side won, better luck next time], the government has nothing to fear.

I don't see how I changed the subject. I believe in cause and effect, and one part plays a part in the other. Like a puzzle that when complete, the full picture is seen. You guys [voting blocks] are stuck on separate issues, yet can't seem to put the pieces together. And if you think this is off topic again, sorry, I can't help you.

 

[nikcers]

My point is this: When the people stop voting and instead begin to make exacting demands, that is when the government will fear the people. Going to a ballot box and accepting a peaceful outcome [oh, X side won, better luck next time], the government has nothing to fear.

I don't see how I changed the subject. I believe in cause and effect, and one part plays a part in the other. Like a puzzle that when complete, the full picture is seen. You guys [voting blocks] are stuck on separate issues, yet can't seem to put the pieces together. And if you think this is off topic again, sorry, I can't help you.

We the people are the government.

We make demands when we vote in elections.

By not voting you subvert the sovereignty of the country that you have and are surrendering it.

If every person surrendered their sovereignty it would be up for grabs. It would just result in a war with bullets and bombs instead of words.

 

[PAF]

We the people are the government.

We make demands when we vote in elections.

By not voting you subvert the sovereignty of the country that you have and are surrendering it.

If every person surrendered their sovereignty it would be up for grabs. It would just result in a war with bullets and bombs instead of words.

Here, I'll prove that wrong with a dead stop at the end:

And yet Israel won, and we have a BBB.

 

[CaptUSA]

My point is this: When the people stop voting and instead begin to make exacting demands, that is when the government will fear the people. Going to a ballot box and accepting a peaceful outcome [oh, X side won, better luck next time], the government has nothing to fear.

I don't see how I changed the subject. I believe in cause and effect, and one part plays a part in the other. Like a puzzle that when complete, the full picture is seen. You guys [voting blocks] are stuck on separate issues, yet can't seem to put the pieces together. And if you think this is off topic again, sorry, I can't help you.

Alright, this whole thing is off-topic to the thread so I'll try to let it go after this and hit the grill.

Thinking involves evaluating facts, logic, and evidence, then making judgments and decisions based on that evaluation.

Feeling involves intuitive impressions and gut reactions tied to moods and values.

Thinking takes time, whereas feeling can be almost immediate. (paging Dr. Kahneman)

If you can provide real evidence with facts, I'm open to hearing it. In fact, if I'm mistaken, I'd be thrilled! But I'm not going to be swayed by your feelings on the subject.

 

[PAF]

Alright, this whole thing is off-topic to the thread so I'll try to let it go after this and hit the grill.

Thinking involves evaluating facts, logic, and evidence, then making judgments and decisions based on that evaluation.

Feeling involves intuitive impressions and gut reactions tied to moods and values.

Thinking takes time, whereas feeling can be almost immediate. (paging Dr. Kahneman)

If you can provide real evidence with facts, I'm open to hearing it. In fact, if I'm mistaken, I'd be thrilled! But I'm not going to be swayed by your feelings on the subject.

I'm too, what do you call it, divergent? My mind has like a million thoughts per second running through it where I can see the overall picture, but to break it down into pieces and discuss it, that might be where I fail.

See post #73 to see if that makes sense.

 

[nikcers]

Here, I'll prove that wrong with a dead stop at the end:

And yet Israel won, and we have a BBB.

We didnt get Build back better. Build back better had child tax credits and nationwide childcare and other subsidys for raising kids which made the government the daddy.

The bill Trump has creates jobs by removing tax burdens on businesses so parents can have a good paying job so they can afford to pay for and raise kids without getting the government involved directly in raising kids.

No Israel didnt win. We bombed their nuclear program in Iran we didnt send 2 million troops to conquer Iran.

 

[69360]

Of course, oh wise one, and that makes it just a-o-k and perfectly acceptable

I stopped losing sleep over it a long time ago. If you just assume everything you do online is being watched, there isn't really much to worry about. You and I are both on a watchlist. It is what it is.

 

[Swordsmyth]

My response from the other thread:

If/when the People suddenly stop voting, that's when the government will fear the people.​

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But they know rest assured that by the time the next election cycle comes around, people are going to flock around those voting booths like flies on shit.​

Bunk, government would rejoice at the implied consent, feudal lords loved not having the peasants vote.

 

[Swordsmyth]

In the Mexican war?

You know the one where we turned places that were Mexico into places that are Phoenix?

Of course if they turn Phoenix into Mexico its no less of a war.

And that's the goal of the great replacement shills.

 

[acptulsa]

Bunk, government would rejoice at the implied consent,

Refusing to participate in government elections is implied consent?

And that's the goal of the great replacement shills.

Oh, look who agrees with the brainless AI Cliché-O-Matic bot.