“This is a system-wide collapse” - Texas border overwhelmed

[parocks]

We could think even bigger and take all of Mexico. We would just need to supply the drugs cartels with enough guns and money to stage a coup on Mexico City. If Mexico City falls to drug lords then we could invade and restore order and we wouldn't be invaders at that point we would be heroes.

We could then deport everyone on Mexico who has a criminal history, which is basically everyone on Mexico. To like Guatemala or something.

Just a few thoughts.

We can take care of the drug cartel problem that Mexico has if we're in Mexico.

Remember what Bush did in Panama, regarding Noreiga and drugs? We sent the military in, and chased him around and caught him.

We could send military in and catch those drug cartel folks.

 

[parocks]

I don't agree with putting any bases in Mexico but if they don't stop the invasion instead of aiding it we may have to take control of the border with the military on one side of the border or the other.

Is building bases in Mexico worse? Or is building an endless number of bases in the Middle East worse?

We have an endless number of bases in the Middle East right now, and I don't see any need for them at all.

If we could build bases at Mexican border, and close Middle East bases, because we can't have both, I'd rather have the Mexican bases, than the Middle East bases. We should be 100% out of the Middle East. We shouldn't be giving Israel $38 Billion over 10 years, $3.8 Billion a year, which I think they're using on Internet Trolling in the US.

 

[nobody's_hero]

To where?

The most free countries on planet earth have not lost their collective minds, and don't let people just wander in whenever they feel like it.

That said, this is my country, quite literally.

My family has been here since the 17th century.

"Ourselves and our posterity" means me and mine.

Tough to walk away from all that without so much as a peep.

Not to mention if you do manage to break away and create prosperity, they will chase you down and take it from you. Either you'll defeat them here or you'll never find peace.

 

[Superfluous Man]

I think we need a break from this. The people you see in those crowds are not malnourished. They are not fluent in English. They are largely uneducated. They are not employment ready and their children are not school ready.

I'm not able to tell most of that from a photograph.

But let's say it's true.

If someone is uneducated and not employment ready, they would still be that in whatever country they live, whether it be the USA or a different one. Is there some reason I should tell them, "No, you go be uneducated and unready for employment over there on that side of the line, and not over here on this side of it."?

 

[Superfluous Man]

This is what Dr. Ron calls "an invasion."

No it isn't.

 

[parocks]

To where?

The most free countries on planet earth have not lost their collective minds, and don't let people just wander in whenever they feel like it.

That said, this is my country, quite literally.

My family has been here since the 17th century.

"Ourselves and our posterity" means me and mine.

Tough to walk away from all that without so much as a peep.

same here, my country, Mayflower.

 

[Superfluous Man]

same here, my country, Mayflower.

If you believe that your ancestors were exercising a right that was genuinely theirs when they came to this continent on the Mayflower then you should also recognize that everyone else in the world has that same right just as much as they did.

 

[nobody's_hero]

I've resisted that impulse for a long time.

I have tried for years to make common bonds and alliances with any number of "groups" and points of view, in the effort to reduce the size, scope, power, control and influence of government in all our lives.

I have been roundly rebuffed.

Now, I am being told that I, and my posterity, are to have no voice in the future of the country that my family built.

We are to be silent, replaced, displaced, and the more extreme elements want me and mine dead.

Most of the people advocating this $#@! are $#@! leftist white people, so my growing anger and pushback is not based solely on tired ethnic shibboleths.

But I will be $#@!ed and damned if I am going to be turned into an unperson in my own country, regardless of whether it is at the hands of government or at the hands of leftist mobs of Bolsheviks and Jacobins.

You'll can push back with me, or not.

 

[timosman]

I'm not able to tell most of that from a photograph.

But let's say it's true.

If someone is uneducated and not employment ready, they would still be that in whatever country they live, whether it be the USA or a different one. Is there some reason I should tell them, "No, you go be uneducated and unready for employment over there on that side of the line, and not over here on this side of it."?

Do you expect anybody to waste their time in order to refute this "argument"?

 

[parocks]

RPF has a choice - ban Zippy or suffer through circular discussions forever.

I believe that RPF made that choice years ago. Zippy is still here.

 

[parocks]

If you believe that your ancestors were exercising a right that was genuinely theirs when they came to this continent on the Mayflower then you should also recognize that everyone else in the world has that same right just as much as they did.

Oh, I just said that this was my country, and my ancestors came here on the Mayflower. I was just saying metoo sorta. I'm not shopping for another country.

I'm not making some philosophical argument.

 

[specsaregood]

If you believe that your ancestors were exercising a right that was genuinely theirs when they came to this continent on the Mayflower then you should also recognize that everyone else in the world has that same right just as much as they did.

Everyone has the right to try, just like his ancestors did. And the existing inhabitants have the right to try to stop them; as many of the Indians did. The only rights anybody in this world has are the ones they are willing to fight for to keep.

 

[shakey1]

Work smart, not hard.

This is also where we can use the Elites own weapons against them. The nature of Propaganda is effective as a tool of population control, a lot of it is because of the MSM and Media in general operating in a predatory way on peoples Normalcy Bias. Propaganda can also work effectively against the Elite due to its VIRAL nature. If you can manage to get across to just one person, and make sure they understand how we have all been purposefully been pitted against each other instead of by those who design our doom, and convince that person to not only tell others, but teach others how to spread that same information, then the mind opening effects of Liberty also become VIRAL. It is that very reason that Censorship is being pushed so hard. When only a handful of people are "allowed" to speak, you can guarantee that what they are saying is a form of Propaganda. This is why Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies.

Jus’ crazy enough to work if it could be executed.

 

[RJB]

Do you expect anybody to waste their time in order to refute this "argument"?

Cut him some slack. A few years ago he could simply mislabel people as racists and that was it. Since that is now seen as the illogic that it is, the SJW of today must actually come up with an argument. Unfortunately this is what passes for one.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If you believe that your ancestors were exercising a right that was genuinely theirs when they came to this continent on the Mayflower then you should also recognize that everyone else in the world has that same right just as much as they did.

And how did that work out for the Cherokee, huh?

Riddle me this:

How is open borders and unlimited migration a "freedom" position, when every single last authoritarian collectivist in the country is in favor of it?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Everyone has the right to try, just like his ancestors did. And the existing inhabitants have the right to try to stop them; as many of the Indians did. The only rights anybody in this world has are the ones they are willing to fight for to keep.

And BOOM goes the dynamite.

 

[devil21]

Everyone has the right to try, just like his ancestors did. And the existing inhabitants have the right to try to stop them; as many of the Indians did. The only rights anybody in this world has are the ones they are willing to fight for to keep.

I'm not aware of too many Mexican illegal immigrants in Congress, the WH, or state or local governments.

If you're going to talk about who is taking our rights, let's be honest about who it is that's actually doing it.

 

[specsaregood]

I'm not aware of too many Mexican illegal immigrants in Congress, the WH, or state or local governments.

If you're going to talk about who is taking our rights, let's be honest about who it is that's actually doing it.

Pretty much irrelevant to what i had to say; but sure, fuck those guys too.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Is building bases in Mexico worse? Or is building an endless number of bases in the Middle East worse?

We have an endless number of bases in the Middle East right now, and I don't see any need for them at all.

If we could build bases at Mexican border, and close Middle East bases, because we can't have both, I'd rather have the Mexican bases, than the Middle East bases. We should be 100% out of the Middle East. We shouldn't be giving Israel $38 Billion over 10 years, $3.8 Billion a year, which I think they're using on Internet Trolling in the US.

I'd accept that trade because it would be an improvement but I'd much rather have no bases overseas or in Mexico.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I'm not aware of too many Mexican illegal immigrants in Congress, the WH, or state or local governments.

If you're going to talk about who is taking our rights, let's be honest about who it is that's actually doing it.

The illegals vote to keep them there.