They are misleading you (more on Zeitgeist)

[jmdrake]

Editor's note: The only reason I'm posting this is because there have been at least 3 different ZG threads posted in General politics over the last month. I think a lot of well meaning people haven't fully seen through what's going on with ZG. Forget whether or not you are a Christian or an atheist or something else. Forget about whether or not you think new technology is "cool". Look at the people who are behind the curtain of this film. Those that inspired the so called "Venus project". They are admitted Luciferians. That's not a conspiracy theory. That's what they admit.



Alex Jones, IMO, made a mistake by playing footsie with these people. He's had the Jordan Maxwells and Michael Tsarians on his show. (Not part of the ZG movement from what I know, but certainly part of the Luciferian "theosophy" movement that inspired it.) And when ZG came out he didn't initially attack it even though he had to know part 1 was bunk. It wasn't until the whole "techno-communism" part came out that he and Griffin decided to take a stand. By then it was too late. The ZG movement already had a powerful hold on people's minds through the very "truth movement" Jones helped spawn. The irony is that Jones predicted several years before ZG came out that the NWO would eventually use 9/11 truth as a weapon to attack Christian conservatives. Why did he not see this coming? I have no good answer for that.

Oh, and don't take my word on any of this. Look up Madame Blavatsky and Ann Bailey for yourself. Read about the Lucis trust from its own website. See how it's connected to the United Nations. See how it admits that it formed from the "Lucis Publishing Company" which was initially called the Lucifer publishing company and this entity is now the "Lucis trust". That's because this organization believes that Lucifer and other fallen angels were the "good guys". This organization is actively preparing people to accept their version of Christ..

After reviewing this, ask yourself how helpful is a pro united nations pro Luciferian movement to us as we fight against globalism?

 

[hazek]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAH

They are admitted Luciferians.

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA I swear man I almost fell out of my chair.

What does that even mean, to be a Luciferian?? Are they OMG OMG OMG the DEVIL!!? TA TA TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA




Sorry I just couldn't help myself.

 

[sevin]

I'm tired of videos that are pretty much just text for 10 minutes. I'd rather read an article.

This is pretty interesting, though, but I'm having trouble finding proof that the Lucis Publishing Company is behind the Zeitgeist Movement.

 

[Travlyr]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAH



BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA I swear man I almost fell out of my chair.

What does that even mean, to be a Luciferian?? Are they OMG OMG OMG the DEVIL!!? TA TA TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



Sorry I just couldn't help myself.

A little bit of reading goes a long way toward understanding. Lucis Trust

 

[hazek]

A little bit of reading goes a long way toward understanding. Lucis Trust

OMG OMG OMG

 

[Fredom101]

Why would any right-minded atheist care about this?? There's as much evidence of a DEVIL existing as there is in a GOD existing: 0.
I could care less if people want to worship lucifer or a hamster, or the Christian god or the Pagan Gods, whatever floats your boat but it's all nonsense to me.

 

[hazek]

Well doh, he isn't one.

 

[Travlyr]

I'm having trouble finding proof that the Lucis Publishing Company is behind the Zeitgeist Movement.

I have not found that information either. According to Peter Joseph the first movie was so popular that it spread like wildfire. The promotion is based on a shoestring budget of $5 DVD's. Freedom is popular, but for some reason it doesn't spread like wildfire. There is some big $$$ behind the global Zeitgeist movement.
World Production Tours are not inexpensive... http://www.thevenusproject.com/blog/

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[EndDaFed]

Even if it were true. So what? How about attacking the very ideas instead of coming off as a fundamentalist Christian? No one is going to take the devil bogyman criticism seriously.

 

[Travlyr]

Why would any right-minded atheist care about this?? There's as much evidence of a DEVIL existing as there is in a GOD existing: 0.
I could care less if people want to worship lucifer or a hamster, or the Christian god or the Pagan Gods, whatever floats your boat but it's all nonsense to me.

It is not nonsense to a large number of people. Understanding those around you is helpful if you wish to promote liberty.

Even if it were true. So what? How about attacking the very ideas instead of coming off as a fundamentalist Christian? No one is going to take the devil bogyman criticism seriously.

This is only an underlying factor to understand the origin of the conflicts we face. We are at a crossroads. The powers-that-be are working on the Bancor to replace the Dollar as the world currency. They have a lot of money. If they win, then the world will likely endure 30 or 40 more years of fiat money enslavement. They are using these tactics to win the popular support of the people. If we win, then real money will be the world's currency which promotes liberty, peace and prosperity. It is very important to understand the enemy of liberty.

 

[dannno]

Wow, it amazes me that all the atheists here completely miss the point.

Who cares whether Lucifer exists or not if the people they are talking about the OP actually believe what they are saying?! It is no secret Luciferians are behind the NWO, it doesn't matter if what they believe is true or not, it is something for them to unite around. It is the primary reason for their goals of world unification, evil has ALWAYS been associated with power. Come on, KNOW YOUR ENEMY!!

I urge people to watch the video in the OP, especially the first half, it is very informative.

 

[Dr.3D]

Wow, it amazes me that all the atheists here completely miss the point.

Who cares whether Lucifer exists or not if the people they are talking about the OP actually believe what they are saying?! It is no secret Luciferians are behind the NWO, it doesn't matter if what they believe is true or not, it is something for them to unite around. It is the primary reason for their goals of world unification, evil has ALWAYS been associated with power. Come on, KNOW YOUR ENEMY!!

I urge people to watch the video in the OP, especially the first half, it is very informative.

Finally a person with a clue speaks up about this.

 

[paulitics]

eh, I just read my post, but it was too off topic. I'm going to edit it, and then post it as a blog sometime later.

 

[Fredom101]

It is not nonsense to a large number of people. Understanding those around you is helpful if you wish to promote liberty.

Good point. I shouldn't have said "nonsense". Thanks for pointing this out.

 

[DamianTV]

Loose Change Film Producer Busted For Drugs

All they are doing is trying to discredit anyone who speaks out against our would be leaders.

Some people will be suseptible to some types of misinformation and other people will be suseptible to other types of misinformation. By throwing out enough discrediting information, they think they can get more people to stop listening to what anyone has to say because they are either Satanists according to the Christian dogmatic view or Drug Dealers for people that think everything else about them is just fine and dandy except for the Drug part. Once the certain types of people hear Satanists or Drug Related, then more people stop listening. Same thing as Wikileaks with Julian Assanage being accused Rape.

 

[dannno]

Loose Change Film Producer Busted For Drugs

All they are doing is trying to discredit anyone who speaks out against our would be leaders.

Some people will be suseptible to some types of misinformation and other people will be suseptible to other types of misinformation. By throwing out enough discrediting information, they think they can get more people to stop listening to what anyone has to say because they are either Satanists according to the Christian dogmatic view or Drug Dealers for people that think everything else about them is just fine and dandy except for the Drug part. Once the certain types of people hear Satanists or Drug Related, then more people stop listening. Same thing as Wikileaks with Julian Assanage being accused Rape.

This should be it's own thread, and I also smell setup here..

 

[Justinjj1]

Luciferianism is not the same thing as Satanism. Lucifer is Venus, the Morning Star, the light-bearer that brings wisdom to humanity. If they do use the term "Lucifer" in the name of their publishing company, then I'm sure it's for symbolic purposes.

 

[dannno]

bump

 

[DamianTV]

This should be it's own thread, and I also smell setup here..

It could be its own thread, but the point is that the label thats being applied is one attempt and one perspective to destroy the guys credibility.

 

[Pistis]

Why would any right-minded atheist care about this?? There's as much evidence of a DEVIL existing as there is in a GOD existing: 0.
I could care less if people want to worship lucifer or a hamster, or the Christian god or the Pagan Gods, whatever floats your boat but it's all nonsense to me.

You know, it has been said that the greatest trick the DEVIL ever pulled was convincing people he doesn't exist.

Put the question of the existence of the devil or even the existence of a spiritual dimension aside for one moment; doesn't it make you wonder that some of the smartest, most powerful people in the world are also some of the most spiritual, although it's telling how they always seem to belong to what most people (atheist or religious) would consider to be the DARK side.

Whether it's multiple ex US presidents, German Chancellors and other elitists dressing up and burning effigies to burn their cares and consciences away at Bohemian Grove or Tony Blair and others participating in bizzare New Age cleansing ceremonies or Maurice Strong (the Kissinger of the UN) getting involved in all sorts of Theosophical societies and establishing the Lucifer Trust as the official spiritual publishing arm of the UN; you have to take this stuff seriously because 'they' take it seriously.

And back to the existence of God/Devil question: what sort of person isn't at least curious about the possibility of an eternal afterlife. This to me would seem to be the most important question of all! Showing lack of curiousity about this question, not taking the time to ask questions or investigate or even ridiculing the possiblity verges on foolishness.