Obama will probably get 360-400 electoral votes and win in a landslide. I hate McCain. And I also hate Obama maybe a little more. And no I didn't vote for either. I sent in my mail in vote for Barr (Baldwin wasn't even on the ballot in my state so don't start about that). There is no way McCain could possibly win unless there was massive cheating.
There is no way McCain can win
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This shows Obama with 344 electorals and McCan't with 164, for what it's worth.
http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard
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It aint over yet... damn if yall had been the revolutionaries.. yall would have quit to early... the odds were against them too.
You said you agreed with my post, if thats the case then you have to agree that McCain is not the revolution, we are. Educate people thats what our job has to be regardless of who wins. So for all the energy that we have waisted on this topic and all the energy we would waist helping McCain would be lost. Like I said vote for who you want but remember the end goal.
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So is Obama...
Yeah, I know.
They are both communist.
Take my words out of context.
I was talking to someone who believes McCain is a good guy and Obama is the evil communist. I was explaining that McCain is also a communist.
Please continue in taking my words out of the context of their previous conversations, You aren't the first, nor the last.
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I'm not taking it out of context or attacking you so chill out, that was the first thing you posted....
At least you agree they are both communists...
I don't understand why some still fight for who would be better or why it would make a difference who wins, If more people would just concentrate on voting 3rd party then by 2012 we might make an upgrade in the revolution. I just put everything aside and vote the true lesser evil, "BOB BARR"
If both Dem and Rep voters would switch to 3rd party then who is the majority?
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I'm not taking it out of context or attacking you so chill out, that was the first thing you posted....
At least you agree they are both communists...
I don't understand why some still fight for who would be better or why it would make a difference who wins, If more people would just concentrate on voting 3rd party then by 2012 e might make an upgrade in the revolution. I just put everything aside and vote the true lesser evil, "BOB BARR"
If both Dem and Rep voters would switch to 3rd party then who is the majority?
The difference is the supreme court appointees...
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As long as people believe its a wasted vote, they will continue to waste their vote on the Dems and Reps.
There is the background noise douchebag who is trying to convince people that voting third party is a wasted vote.
Neocon shill needs to go rape a kitten or something...
There is the background noise douchebag who is trying to convince people that voting third party is a wasted vote.
Neocon shill needs to go rape a kitten or something...
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You are mistaken in thinking that we want McCain to win. Most of us know that it really does not matter. And the best odds we have for getting a liberty candidate in office in 2012 is by having Obama win.
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Yeah, i know, but come on, we are screwed anyway you look at it. Maybe its a good thing if Dems take power, this way they can fuckup so bad people would revolt and wake up. I say the more evil they are the better for the revolution
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He most certainly did NOT say "McCain would be better for the country".
Essentially, all RP said was gridlock was better than Dems winning congress and the Presidency.
Hence, we can change that by voting for Republicans for Congress, it does not mean we have to vote for a vile SOB like McCain.
What Ron Paul actually said was "Even with all the shortcomings of John McCain, his strongest argument to be President is keeping Congress and the Presidency in separate hands- the American people are going to be better off if they are fighting a little bit instead of having no restraints whatsoever. Thats a poor reason to argue for McCain. Its a poor argument for McCain."
I'm voting Republican for congress, but there is no way in HELL I'm voting for a warmongering scumbag like John McCain for President!
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I'm pretty sure the next for years are going to suck for most people, regardless who is at the helm. The buck stops in the Oval Office. The fallout of the last Administration will reign down on the next Administration.
If the economy worsens and worsens under Big Social Spender Barack Obama, it is AT LEAST as likely that the Old Neoconservative Guard...think shark, always in motion, always on the hunt...will be able to sell America's need to return to their "real" Republicanism than that the people will rise in demand of liberty. Why? Because more and more and more people's livelihoods will depend upon Big Government. Federal Workforce is a prime feature of Obama's economic plans.
People want things to be different, but they don't personally want to change. No one offers to lose their job for The Cause.
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Yeah, i know, but come on, we are screwed anyway you look at it. Maybe its a good thing if Dems take power, this way they can fuckup so bad people would revolt and wake up. I say the more evil they are the better for the revolution
Or, the people will grow completely demoralized and dependent while the Rovian Machine uses a one-term hapless presidency featuring a Democratic Spend-A-Thon to re-tool, re-organize and re-energize. Bear in mind, they can lure the next generation of slick, insincere politicos and professionals with their track record of high-flying, risk-free living on Other People's Money.
That's exactly the what the elite want people to think. Then if McCain does win they will get the riots they have been preparing for to take more of our freedoms away. The elite play us all for fools. They openly laugh at us.
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Essentially, all RP said was gridlock was better than Dems winning congress and the Presidency.
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A Ranking Person from Barron's said the as much on TV a few months back, that the market fares best when the Legislature and the President are opponents rather than co-conspirators...though he said only "different parties."
Gridlock being the reason. Uncertainty is bad for business. When you know that Government is notorious for error, inefficiency and corruption, then knowing that Congress and the President will take a lot longer to get less done is reassuring to investors.
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It's true.
They seemed to be having a lovely time at last night's Roast, dontcha think? Lots of smiles and sparklies. It would be interesting to learn the cost of the Event.
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