There Is A Plan And It's Starting To Show

[ronpauleddy]

Think about it like this!!

We did not have help from the National campaign!!
We did not have T.V. ads!!
We did not have Ron Paul in Michigan!!
BUT...we beat Fred and Rudy COMBINED!!

This my friends is huge!! Imagine what an organized effort from the National campaign would have done!!
This is why I have Faith in Nevada!!
This is why as many of us should try and make it to Florida!!
Keep on FIGHTING!! we reached over 55,000 people in Michigan!!
That's over 80,000 people awakened so far in just 3 states!!
This means we are waking up MILLIONS across the nation!!
All on our own!! WE ARE WINNING!! Keep it up!!

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!

 

[G-Wohl]

Um... OP, I don't think the national headquarters are capable of devising such a meticulous scheme. I could only hope that they did, though!

 

[smartguy911]

I read somewhere in this forum that they don't have much money left. there is a reason they are asking for $20 million by Jan 25th and the way it's going, we will prob get $2 million only. :-(

watch and donate - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAWClI8zsH4

 

[stewie3128]

There is no Master Plan, there will be no touchdowns. He has no chance of getting the GOP nomination now. The "powers that be" have pulled off their little scheme perfectly, and the blackout has worked.

The american people like the state they are in, and they will, en masse, turn to the candidate that "makes them feel good" and who "looks good" to "lead" them. Voters don't care about issues anymore, they just care about who looks good on TV, who can smile the largest and who can laugh and snicker the most.

It's amazing how people are voting for candidates that laugh and sneer at Ron Paul, and don't even CONSIDER that when the people are telling that future president that they are wrong, that Romney or McCain wont turn the sneering on them, and laugh at them. They don't think of that, but it's coming.

Paul never laughs or chides the other candidates unfairly. Never chuckles when others are expressing their views.

The majority of the american people take a childish attitude to voting and to their candidates. and they will be treated as such by both parties, whoever gets elected.

...Way to contribute to the forum.

 

[LudwigVan Kubrick]

I didnt say that it was over...I'm just stating the obvious fact that we are not going to do better than 4th on Super Tuesday. The campaign needs to shift it's resources to a 3rd party run, before Bloomberg steals that limelight.

wrong.

Many states won't even let you run independant if you lost in the primary.

3rd party is suicide in this country.

wrong

wrong

wrong


Its now or never for Dr. Paul.

 

[seeker1]

The splintering of the factions and the name calling has begun

All these positives are being negated by the fucking white supremacists. I'm sure Ron Paul lost quite a bit of support because of all those allegations of racism.

I'm one of the people that has supported Ron Paul for over twenty five years. He's been my write in candidate for the last 6 elections.

You're in la la land if you think garnering a handful of fifth place finishes is momentum. Now success is whether we can beat Rudy and Fred? Give me a break.

I've wondered long and hard since my first meetup during this campaign how long it would take before the solidarity would break up and start pointing fingers at the reason Ron Paul wasn't winning.

Oh it's the white supremists that are his problem? Maybe its the hippies or them damn fundamentalists switching to Huckleberry.

The problem is this campaign is a joke. There's enormous grassroots and no leadership. Ron Paul isn't god you know. He isn't all knowing and following some master plan.

He's content to get his message out. This is a libertarian mission. It's a long term strategy to get more people in the throng. It's not about winning the election.

If so, there would be a real campaign staff that had one focus. Getting elected.

There's plenty of us that have spent our own money promoting this campaign, because there isn't any organized strategy. We're on our own.

Like many of you, I fear for my children. I know we're heading for a dark period in our history and we'll never be the same. Ron Paul was our last hope and for some reason, he is content just getting his libertarian message out.

If you don't like the negative posts, too bad.

 

[ClayTrainor]

I'm one of the people that has supported Ron Paul for over twenty five years. He's been my write in candidate for the last 6 elections.

You're in la la land if you think garnering a handful of fifth place finishes is momentum. Now success is whether we can beat Rudy and Fred? Give me a break.

I've wondered long and hard since my first meetup during this campaign how long it would take before the solidarity would break up and start pointing fingers at the reason Ron Paul wasn't winning.

Oh it's the white supremists that are his problem? Maybe its the hippies or them damn fundamentalists switching to Huckleberry.

The problem is this campaign is a joke. There's enormous grassroots and no leadership. Ron Paul isn't god you know. He isn't all knowing and following some master plan.

He's content to get his message out. This is a libertarian mission. It's a long term strategy to get more people in the throng. It's not about winning the election.

If so, there would be a real campaign staff that had one focus. Getting elected.

There's plenty of us that have spent our own money promoting this campaign, because there isn't any organized strategy. We're on our own.

Like many of you, I fear for my children. I know we're heading for a dark period in our history and we'll never be the same. Ron Paul was our last hope and for some reason, he is content just getting his libertarian message out.

If you don't like the negative posts, too bad.

I hate to say it but, i agree with you almost 100%

It's almost as if the campaign doesnt even beleive they can win, and they just want to get the message out!

Well, that sounds nice, but the reason alot of us have put our money where our mouth is, is because we actually want Ron as our president!

We need to co-ordinate efforts to hire a very highly regarded campaign manager.

Agree?

 

[randomname]

I think that all of Fred's support went to Huck... and potential paul supporters were also taken by Huck.

At least in MI, according to the exit polls a lot of Thompson's support went to Romney (34%). Same for Ron Paul (18% of potential voters voted for Romney). Huck only took 9% of potential support from Paul.

Regardless of how you voted today, which one of these candidates is most likely to bring needed change to the country?
Category	% Total	Giuliani Huckabee Hunter McCain	Paul Romney Thompson	Unc.
Rudy Giuliani	4	39	10	-	20	-	28	2	-
Mike Huckabee	17	3	79	-	9	1	5	0	2
John McCain	27	1	4	-	87	1	7	0	1
Ron Paul	13	2	9	-	12	52	18	6	2
Mitt Romney	31	1	3	0	3	2	88	1	2
Fred Thompson	4	5	5	1	-	-	34	55	-

 

[Thomas Paine]

Think about this. All the other candidates are nearly broke. Every single state has had a new winner thus far. Our grassroots have pulled in 7-10% of the vote in every state without any help from the main campaign and, we have 0 expectations in the news media.

Ron Paul's campaign strategy is like Rudy Gulianni 2.0

Think about it. Ron Paul does not have to worry about failure. His campaign has been doing the same thing as Rudy's but BETTER. Our grassroots are more energized more supportive and it shows in the polls. We have now beaten him twice.

Rudy has only set himself up for a loss though. If he should fail in Florida, it will destroy his entire campaign.

We could really liken this entire campaign to a game of football. Imagine that Ron Paul's team gives up major yardage to the opponent but when it comes time to score, only allows the opponents to get field goals. On the other hand Rudy's team would allow other teams to score big time against it with the promise that "we will score more by the end of the game" The problem with that is, if you don't score big time, you look like a big loser, something Ron Paul's team wouldn't have to worry about.

Ron Paul's strategy is becoming visible. Bend but don't break. No matter what happens leading up to super Tuesday, Ron Paul has ensured that the bar has been set so low, the media cannot possibly report him as failing. Because of this fact he largely ignores being in the cross hairs and does not have to spend larges amounts of money.

So with no line drawn in the sand and plenty of money to spend on super Tuesday, his campaign will be poised to look amazing when he begins to strike at his opponents.

So far, Rudy Giuliani's campaign strategy is going into the toilet. Therefore, I am not convinced that adopting Ghouliani's strategy is the wisest decision in the political universe.

 

[Thomas Paine]

I read somewhere in this forum that they don't have much money left. there is a reason they are asking for $20 million by Jan 25th and the way it's going, we will prob get $2 million only. :-(

watch and donate - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAWClI8zsH4

If Ron Paul had placed at least third in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Michigan, then he would be well on his was toward $23 Million. Donors like to give money to a candidate who they believe will 1) win and 2) spend their money wisely. Placing at least third in the foregoing states (a real possibility at one time) would have been perceived as a moral victory, even by the MSM. Thus far, national campaign HQ has failed to convince donors that Ron Paul can win and that the money raised in the 4th Quarter is being spent wisely.

 

[ClayTrainor]

So far, Rudy Giuliani's campaign strategy is going into the toilet. Therefore, I am not convinced that adopting Ghouliani's strategy is the wisest decision in the political universe.

It's not like we're following rudy.

Note the 2.0

Ron paul is effectively doing what giuliani is doing, only Paul is doing much better so far!

 

[LibertyRevolution]

Rudy has name recignition and Florida in his pocket. I dont see how we are going to win with a super-tuesday plan, when most people i run into dont even know who ron paul is, and the ones that do think he cant win, and it be a wasted vote. My neighbor saw my sign and said that he liked ron pauls message but that he prolly wont vote for him becuase he has no chance in winning!

 

[maeqFREEDOMfree]

Think about this. All the other candidates are nearly broke. Every single state has had a new winner thus far. Our grassroots have pulled in 7-10% of the vote in every state without any help from the main campaign and, we have 0 expectations in the news media.

6 % in michigan

 

[Join The Paul Side]

Ron Paul needs to do nationwide what candidates usually do here in FL. They make appearences and gives speaches where old people live, meet, and gather. They go after the Senior Citizen vote. Young people already know about Dr. Paul. It's the older folks that need educating. He needs to clarify himself on where he stands on issues they care about.

 

[Brian Bailey]

Things are just starting to get interesting.

The campaign knows what they are doing.

Now is the time to solidify our resolve, not question it.

We still have humongous afterburners and the other candidates are sitting around with a zippo.

 

[A. Havnes]

I also hope you're right. Here's hoping for Super Tuesday.

 

[FreeTraveler]

Feb. 5th does matter and we do need some success, but I don't think it is the most important factor. Where Ron Paul could potentially really utilize his money is in the states that have almost always never mattered...the states after Feb. 5th. These states never get campaigned in for primaries, and are starved for attention from candidates. This year because of the lack of a clear frontrunner, they are going to be crucial in getting delegates and may be the make or break for Ron if he gets momentum on Feb. 5th. He's going to still have a lot of money to spend in these states whereas others will have dried up their donors who never thought this primary would go on so long. It could be Ron's secret strategy, win the "post-Feb. 5th states".

Shhhhhhh!!!

 

[FreeTraveler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48rz8udZBmQ

There is no Master Plan, there will be no touchdowns. He has no chance of getting the GOP nomination now. The "powers that be" have pulled off their little scheme perfectly, and the blackout has worked.

The american people like the state they are in, and they will, en masse, turn to the candidate that "makes them feel good" and who "looks good" to "lead" them. Voters don't care about issues anymore, they just care about who looks good on TV, who can smile the largest and who can laugh and snicker the most.

It's amazing how people are voting for candidates that laugh and sneer at Ron Paul, and don't even CONSIDER that when the people are telling that future president that they are wrong, that Romney or McCain wont turn the sneering on them, and laugh at them. They don't think of that, but it's coming.

Paul never laughs or chides the other candidates unfairly. Never chuckles when others are expressing their views.

The majority of the american people take a childish attitude to voting and to their candidates. and they will be treated as such by both parties, whoever gets elected.

 

[FreeTraveler]

How old are you? Twenty?

As a 55-year-old, I think I'm qualified to say this: You're full of shit!

the only people that are worth courting are the younger voters, the Libertarian Party unfortunately fell into the trap that it could convince a large segment of middle aged and older Republicans to join the LP. After a couple of decades of futility it has still not fully learned its lesson and we can't start thinking that we need to go out of our way with Ron Paul on older voters. They are way too set in their ways to switch allegiances en masse. The only ones that can be turned are those whose minds have not atrophied yet. For those roughly over 40 the numbers aren't that significant. We need the idealist mentality not the pragmatist. There's moves to reform the LP and the old guard within it who are too rigid, and purist. Youth is the only way we can forge a powerful movement.

 

[AlexK]

Is there ANY indication that he'll do better in other states? He's been going down in percentages with ever primary/caucus. He didn't do well in NH, which was supposedly THE state for RP. Michigan, which many here thought would be the turning point, was even worse. And some of the momentum that he's gained in the news for his fundraising is gone. Plus the resurfaced racism allegations aren't helping either.