The Woman Problem with Ron Paul

[Butchie]

...But I believe I have defined the issue....

IMO, you may have defined part of the issue.
When is the last time you talked w/ several college-aged women about their views on abortion? We desperately need to let them know that in a free society abortion would probably be legal in at least several states.

Umm, no it wouldn't, and I think there's probably just as many women against abortion as for it, certainly if you are talking about conservative women most would be against it, but that is moot anyway, very few voters male or female are listing abortion as their deciding factor.

 

[Giuliani was there on 911]

wow a lot of collectivism in this thread























just kidding

 

[LEK]

Now those that would argue that women love internet too, they need to remember women only really use the internet to socialize (facebook, tweeting, etc.) Since women love t.v., watch the news on t.v., get fed who to vote for (Mitt Romney), etc. etc... I am taking this information from being married to a woman with 2 sisters, and a mom who love to watch t.v.

You have not described this woman. I deplore facebook, do not have a twitter account, do not love t.v. and especially do not watch the MSM. I am sitting here, drinking a Sam Adam's Light and surfing the 'net to get my news fix and then I am going to make some awesome pizza for my husband and son to munch on while they watch the SuperBowl (which I also do not find entertaining).

Too many generalizations - only young people support Ron Paul, only men vote for Ron paul, just not true.

 

[Boss]

This thread is rife with fallacies and often substitutes speculation for fact.

There is contention by sociologists about whether there is any evolutionary facet to the stratification and differences of men & women in society. And there are case studies of societies in which the roles of men and women are reversed.

This subject is one of the most difficult to assess, be sure to clarify a speculation VS a fact.

 

[Txrose4ever]

Wow. You guys must really think women are dim.............. Pandering to women because Paul was an Ob/GYN? Inferring that women use internet mostly for social networking? Use feel-good approaches to winning them over? Geesh!
I use internet and read blogs, participate in forums because of the intellectual stimulation (most of the time) and the substance involved. Sometimes, I have something useful to contribute. I enjoy reading intelligent, well thought out posts by others.

The fact that Paul was a doctor, makes no iota difference to me when choosing a President. His Integrity and plain common sense positions on things DO. I admire his gumption in standing up to the status quo, calling a spade a spade, dragging the government dirty laundry out for all to see. His character speaks volumes.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

You speak with a hint of sarcasm, suggesting that you find it outrageous that a political campaign in the United States would want to stay clear of figures who advocate the removal of government from all aspects of life, including the police, the military, and the court system. Nobody here should want to associate with anarchists - let alone the Ron Paul campaign.

She can speak to libertarian issues, is a woman, and does great with liberal, green, etc types. That's a win all-around.

Also, you should check out who some of the 2008 advisors were. Walter Block was one.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

You speak with a hint of sarcasm, suggesting that you find it outrageous that a political campaign in the United States would want to stay clear of figures who advocate the removal of government from all aspects of life, including the police, the military, and the court system. Nobody here should want to associate with anarchists - let alone the Ron Paul campaign.

I hope this is sarcasm. This forum has loads of anarchist members, and RP has many anarchist supporters.

 

[KingNothing]

You speak with a hint of sarcasm, suggesting that you find it outrageous that a political campaign in the United States would want to stay clear of figures who advocate the removal of government from all aspects of life, including the police, the military, and the court system. Nobody here should want to associate with anarchists - let alone the Ron Paul campaign.

I'm an anarchist.

What's so bad about that?

 

[JimInNY]

I'll take anarchy over what we have right now.

 

[KingNothing]

I hope this is sarcasm. This forum has loads of anarchist members, and RP has many anarchist supporters.

True.

And as an anarchist, I'll put my knowledge of the issues, economics, history, psychology, philosophy and science up against anyone's. It is definitely possible to be a well-read, reasoning, and logical anarchist. And we're not all whisker-twisting mad men who want to blow up the world.

 

[KingNothing]

I'll take anarchy over what we have right now.

Well, we only have the rule of law now when it suits the strongest strongman in America, so.... don't we basically have anarchy?

 

[Pisces]

She can speak to libertarian issues, is a woman, and does great with liberal, green, etc types. That's a win all-around.

Also, you should check out who some of the 2008 advisors were. Walter Block was one.

Wasn't there some controversy surrounding her involving her position on child sex abuse, i.e. that she doesn't see sex between adults and children as abuse? I may be wrong but I thought I read something like this on the forum several months ago. I hope this question doesn't derail the thread but I for one would need to know more about this if I were ever in a position to vote for her.

 

[QuickZ06]

Wow. You guys must really think women are dim.............. Pandering to women because Paul was an Ob/GYN? Inferring that women use internet mostly for social networking? Use feel-good approaches to winning them over? Geesh!
I use internet and read blogs, participate in forums because of the intellectual stimulation (most of the time) and the substance involved. Sometimes, I have something useful to contribute. I enjoy reading intelligent, well thought out posts by others.

The fact that Paul was a doctor, makes no iota difference to me when choosing a President. His Integrity and plain common sense positions on things DO. I admire his gumption in standing up to the status quo, calling a spade a spade, dragging the government dirty laundry out for all to see. His character speaks volumes.

Not at all, I think women in politics is a great thing and anything else for that matter. Heck look at the Swiss women, they took it over in 2010 and I hear they are not doing to bad (staying out of world affairs ect ect...).

 

[Mickeys]

wow! Such silly generalizations! And with absoluely no merit for such generalizations too! (Men are FAR more likely to be TV-aholics than women, bythe way.)

 

[heavenlyboy34]

wow! Such silly generalizations! And with absoluely no merit for such generalizations too! (Men are FAR more likely to be TV-aholics than women, bythe way.)

+a zillion

 

[nbhadja]

Well, we only have the rule of law now when it suits the strongest strongman in America, so.... don't we basically have anarchy?

Nope we have government....corporatist government. The bankers would be gutted in anarchy.

 

[kylejack]

Yeah, the sexism in this thread is not the way to win more women voters.

 

[Narmical]

Lets quit with the generalization bashing. Generalizations can be use full, and in this case are all we have to go on. The information that is able to be collected about voters is only generalization. So if we notice any trends in the data, we can only at best solve them with generalizations.

I sympathize with the feeling of insult when you fall into the category generalized and it gets YOU wrong. Generalizing that people who watch cartoon shows like dolls and toy cars is useful, even if it gets me wrong.

 

[AhuwaleKaNaneHuna]

wow! Such silly generalizations! And with absoluely no merit for such generalizations too! (Men are FAR more likely to be TV-aholics than women, bythe way.)

+ bajillion.

Really, some of you in this forum in in these types of threads are exposing some dated ignorance and chauvenism, most found amongst libertarian men, seconded by neocons, in my stereotypical experience, and you wonder why women tend stay away from this movement more. Hmmmmmmm


So many insulting hypothesis from men is hurting the cause more then helping it, dont ya think?


And these thread headlines make it sound like Pauls got a yeast infection.


Stop it all already! lol

Treat voters as voters and not ages, sexes, religions, ect.

We have seen every line crossed to come to Paul.

All we have to do is keep appealing to common sense, honesty, integrity and practicality like Paul does.

 

[kylejack]

Wasn't there some controversy surrounding her involving her position on child sex abuse, i.e. that she doesn't see sex between adults and children as abuse? I may be wrong but I thought I read something like this on the forum several months ago. I hope this question doesn't derail the thread but I for one would need to know more about this if I were ever in a position to vote for her.

Indeed.

Children who willingly participate in sexual acts have the right to make that decision as well, even if it's distasteful to us personally. Some children will make poor choices just as some adults do in smoking and drinking to excess. When we outlaw child pornography, the prices paid for child performers rise, increasing the incentives for parents to use children against their will.

-Her book