The US Will Break Its Teeth On Iran

[shakey1]

What sheer and utter nonsense- and I'd +rep ya if I could.

got it.

 

[silverhandorder]

ISIS and Al Qaeda were both US setups and have never been obliterated.

You the one that does not believe in IQ? I can see why...

 

[Ender]

You the one that does not believe in IQ? I can see why...

Best get some edumacation- this is not rocket science.

 

[timosman]

ISIS and Al Qaeda were both US setups and have never been obliterated.

You should think about the number of jobs created in the process of "fighting" them.

 

[pcosmar]

The US could obliterate Iran's conventional forces very rapidly and at virtually no cost -

Not so. Realistically.

Iran learned a great deal defeating attacks. They have been doing so for a long time. What they lack in Offensive weapons has been wisely spent on Defensive ones.

They Have and have used anti stealth tech. Meaning Stealth is Useless junk.
They have multi layered Defenses.
They can close the Straight of Hormuz at will. They own it.
They have on hand the ability to sink every naval asset within 200 miles of their coast,, inside of 15 minutes.


all bluster aside.. It will be a massive bloodbath for any attacker.

 

[The Gold Standard]

We, the people. Do we have a representative in the government or not?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Just how we obliterated ISIS and ALQuada before them? Without obliterating civilians you can not hope to defeat a military.

AQ never had a military. ISIS does, sort of, but the US never really attacked them (too busy arming them).

As I indicated previously, guerilla wars may be unwinnable. My point was about conventional wars.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

They Have and have used anti stealth tech. Meaning Stealth is Useless junk.

That's highly optimistic, from the Iranian POV.

The US AF spends 3x per year more than the entire Iranian military.

They can close the Straight of Hormuz at will. They own it.

In terms of being able to close the straight to commercial shipping, that's true.

....you only need to raise the risk high enough that Lloyd's won't insure anything.

But, again, this is not what I was talking about. I was talking about the ability of the US military obliterate the conventional Iranian military.

They have on hand the ability to sink every naval asset within 200 miles of their coast,, inside of 15 minutes.

Not true. More like, they have the ability to menace such vessels. China has the ability to do what you're talking about.

But in the Iranian case, the US can simply use land bases around the area.

Remember this?

all bluster aside.. It will be a massive bloodbath for any attacker.

If the goal were occupation, yes, it would be much worse than Iraq (as I said).

 

[Jamesiv1]

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[silverhandorder]

AQ never had a military. ISIS does, sort of, but the US never really attacked them (too busy arming them).

As I indicated previously, guerilla wars may be unwinnable. My point was about conventional wars.

Unless you prepared to exterminated Iranians you will deal with endless waves of their conventional troops. If much weaker opponent then them strained our military to the breaking point what do you think foolishness with them will do?

Here are some news we seen lately.

Yemen Iran supplied cruise missiles keep causing damage upon Saudis and US.
We had problem with making enough bombs years back when we were in Iraq and Afghanistan.
We have problems treating all out vets after Iraq and Afghanistan.
We still lose troops to dudes with AK47s.
We bombed and air field and thin layer of concrete almost neutralized our missiles.
Iran has military bases in mountains. With steel doors and etc. Not some soviet era cave base in Afghanistan.
20 trillion in debt and no end in sight of increased spending.

How long do you think we can maintain a campaign under these facts? How effective you think we will be considering 10 years later Afghanistan and Iraq are a mess?

There is only two ways to win this war, and right now anyone in the west who would give this order would be lynched. Nukes or civilian targets.