The United Island of America

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Ok - so if the rest of America wont wake up, we all pitch in and buy a huge Island and establish it based on the original Constitution - and then invite other territories / countries to join our country. Other States could then join our country.

What say ye?
 
Private Islands aren't really private, they aren't in international waters. We will be subject to whichever country actually owns said Island, which will probably mean insane property taxes and possibly laws we wouldn't like. If you think you can break away from said country, remember the crappiest country's military is way better than anything we can put together on some 30acre Island.

So no, sorry, this won't work. Move to a state, take it over, or move to New Zealand.
 
i wonder if there is some legal way to do this with a state - to file some sort of suit declaring the US in violation of the Constitution and therefore justifying the establishment of our state as a separate country - founded strictly on the constitution.

Do we have an attorney in the house?
 
Ok - so if the rest of America wont wake up, we all pitch in and buy a huge Island and establish it based on the original Constitution - and then invite other territories / countries to join our country. Other States could then join our country.

What say ye?

The Principality of Sealand is for sale. It's arguably it's own country with rights to waters around it. The British government has tacitly acknowledged its existence even.
 
i wonder if there is some legal way to do this with a state - to file some sort of suit declaring the US in violation of the Constitution and therefore justifying the establishment of our state as a separate country - founded strictly on the constitution.

Do we have an attorney in the house?

Yes any state can legally break away from the Union according to state law. Not according to Federal Law. You'd have to have a state legislature willing to break away from the Union, then you'd have to challenge the Union in the Supreme court for breaking contract of the original Union (not following the constitution). The Supreme Court would then have to find in favor of your state in order to successfully secede.

Vermont is the closest state to actually accomplishing this.
 
The Principality of Sealand is for sale. It's arguably it's own country with rights to waters around it. The British government has tacitly acknowledged its existence even.

Yes and it can house servers and 4 people......................

Lets get serious here. Oh and they want $30mill!!!!! Puh Leeez!
 
To quote Abraham Simpson:
"The government doesn't own the sky - You could live in a baloon!!!"
 
Private Islands aren't really private, they aren't in international waters. We will be subject to whichever country actually owns said Island, which will probably mean insane property taxes and possibly laws we wouldn't like. If you think you can break away from said country, remember the crappiest country's military is way better than anything we can put together on some 30acre Island.

So no, sorry, this won't work. Move to a state, take it over, or move to New Zealand.

I'm not sure about this. If the island is remote, who can externally enforce anything on it? You simply declare a sovereign nation. Plus, keep in mind, we will have our 2nd Amendment rights and lots of people (ex-military) who know how to put them to use. :D
 
We cant all go to one island. That would make it to easy for some government to nuke us all and then who would be left to fight?
 
I'm not sure about this. If the island is remote, who can externally enforce anything on it? You simply declare a sovereign nation. Plus, keep in mind, we will have our 2nd Amendment rights and lots of people (ex-military) who know how to put them to use. :D

You just said it, if the Island is remote. How many of us want to live on an Island 100's of miles away from anything?
 
Here's better idea:

Vermont wants to declare independence.

Video -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgu8BjajyS0

The Second Vermont Republic is a nonviolent citizens' network and think tank opposed to the tyranny of Corporate America and the U.S. government, and committed to the return of Vermont to its status as an independent republic and more broadly to the dissolution of the Union. Members of the Second Vermont Republic subscribe to the following set of principles:

Political Independence. Our primary objectives are political independence for Vermont and the peaceful dissolution of the Union.
Human Scale. We believe life should be lived on a human scale. Small is still beautiful.

Sustainability. We celebrate and support Vermont's small, clean, green, sustainable, socially responsible towns, farms, businesses, schools, and churches. We encourage family-owned farms and businesses to produce innovative, premium-quality, healthy products. We also believe that energy independence is an essential goal towards which to strive.

Economic Solidarity. We encourage Vermonters to buy locally produced products from small local merchants rather than purchase from giant, out-of-state megastores. We support trade with nearby states and provinces.

Power Sharing. Vermont's strong democratic tradition is grounded in its town meetings . We favor devolution of political power from the state back to local communities, making the governing structure for towns, schools, hospitals, and social services much like that of Switzerland. Shared power also underlies our approach to international relations.

Equal Opportunity. We support equal access for all Vermont citizens to quality education, health care, housing, and employment.

Tension Reduction. Consistent with Vermont's long tradition of "live and let live" and nonviolence, we do not condone state-sponsored violence inflicted either by the military or law enforcement officials. We support a voluntary citizens' brigade to reduce tension and restore order in the event of civil unrest and to provide assistance when natural disasters occur. We are opposed to any form of military conscription. Tension reduction is the bedrock principle on which all international conflicts are to be resolved.
Mutuality. Both our citizens and our neighbors should be treated with mutual respect.

------------- http://www.vermontrepublic.org -------------

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Sigh! How sad!!

Until the word "revolution" in "Ron Paul Revolution" becomes more than just a word, there will be no significant progress.
Just exactly how would you stand up to those who have stolen your freedom from an Island in the middle of nowhere?

This election is not and never was anything more than one arrow from the quiver. There never was the slightest chance the powers that be would allow us to "elect" their power away. That is not going to happen this election, or the next, or the one after that.

This is bigger than Ron Paul or any of us and until a critical mass of us reach the conclusion and make the commitment to the word "revolution" in its truest sense, there will be no more freedom on the Earth.

If you want your freedom back you must do more, a lot more, than just campaign for a candidate and wish. You must start by doing what the founding fathers did: stop OBEYING!
 
Yes and it can house servers and 4 people......................

Lets get serious here. Oh and they want $30mill!!!!! Puh Leeez!

Nah.. it's bigger than that, it once housed an entire naval base mind you. I think we could get many hundred and at least a thousand. 30 Mill, eh? Last time I checked they were asking 60 Mill, maybe we could bargain them down to 5 or 6. It'd be a start. ;)
 
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