The truth about Rand's meetings with neocons McConnell and Bill Kristol

[bobbyw24]

If she really did that, then she is a bimbo.
She was dating one of the motorhome diaries guys, who identify as anarchists. If she shares their views, then I'm sure she views both Ron and Rand as warmongers since they believe in a state

She did say it several times. I was there. Lobby of the Rosen Centre about 2:30 AM August. Kristi Dunn was also there. It was in response to me saying that we should focus on candidates who have a chance like Rand and some of these candidate who had no real chance of winning. My friend chimed in with "you mean Schiff and Kokesh?" and that made her react. She stated several times "Rand is a neo con warmonger who likes Gitmo."

 

[sailingaway]

I don't understand why so many people hate his audio recordings lol But I've heard a ton of people complain about them.

What's interesting though is that his audio recordings are just him reading a weekly column that he wrote. The SA parody while an unfair attack, is still kind of humorous because it does poke fun at his voice.

I like his audio. He went on with someone, I forget who, Levin or someone, who was hard to listen to in any event. Jack speaking was a real relief. Of course, I'm in southern California, where a southern accent is exotic....

 

[allisonzayne]

My supposed quote about Rand

Funny,

I have intentionally never publicly stated my thoughts on Rand. Check the sources.

I would prefer to stay out of Movement Drama.
Thanks.

 

[allisonzayne]

Don't put words in my mouth and don't ever denote me or any woman in this movement as a bimbo.

I dated Pete, yes. So whomever we date is exactly who we are intrinsicly? Damn, I didn't get that memo.

I am a voluntaryist in my heart, but look at my work before you throw down the gauntlet.
Who we date doesn't make us who we are. Look at my work then open your mouth.

Thanks

 

[allisonzayne]

Tired of infighting and generalizations of this movement

I'm tired of purists for throwing our liberty candidates under the bus just because the purists misinterpret one comment in the course of a campaign.

Anyone who saw Rand as a warmonger either lacks logic or desperately wants to demonstrate their own ideological purity compared to other libertarians (particularly, our candidates).

I saw so many RPFers hate on Rand for over a year. What did THEY do to help liberty? Not crap except preach to the choir in a little corner of the internet.

Sorry, but I'm sick of the distortions and outright lies about Rand's positions

If she truly yelled that "Rand is a warmonger" across the room at a liberty summit, then she is a joke

I don't need to defend myself to anyone on this thread. Look at my work.

And I am now a purist?
I helped Adam Kokesh's Campaign, and helped on BJ's but I am a purist?
Wow.

Just because I disagree with someones foreign policy doesn't make me a purist. And the fact that you can attack someone you dont know and generalize them based on whom they dated- well, that explains a lot for me.
I will do my work and focus on expanding the pie of this movement and not be bogged down with Movement drama that splits us. I believe in respecting all sides of the movement, the minarchist, anarchist, everyone. We all have different skills and comparative advantages, why can't we embrace that?

Maybe for some it makes more sense to attach and generalize those that are busting their ass.

I hope you all well and look forward to acheiving liberty with you- no matter what name you give to me and my work.

 

[MRoCkEd]

Allison, thanks for stopping by.
People were reacting to a quote attributed to you by Bobby. If you in fact did not say it, the posts in this thread were based on a false premise and should therefore be disregarded.

Whatever the case, it's clear from your posts that you don't want to divide the movement, but expand it.

Keep up the good work.

 

[teacherone]

I don't seem to have a problem with people liking me. MANY people like me.

 

[JoshLowry]

Allison, thanks for stopping by.
People were reacting to a quote attributed to you by Bobby. If you in fact did not say it, the posts in this thread were based on a false premise and should therefore be disregarded.

Whatever the case, it's clear from your posts that you don't want to divide the movement, but expand it.

Keep up the good work.

+1 Thanks Mark.

Rand isn't a war monger. It was easy to be fooled though. I even wondered what the hell was going on at points. (And we still don't have a voting record.)

The media came up with a number of attacks, one of those was designed to make Paul's base question itself.

 

[Ekrub]

This thread gets an A+ in the drama department.

 

[bobbyw24]

Allison, thanks for stopping by.
People were reacting to a quote attributed to you by Bobby. If you in fact did not say it, the posts in this thread were based on a false premise and should therefore be disregarded.

Whatever the case, it's clear from your posts that you don't want to divide the movement, but expand it.

Keep up the good work.

I heard what I heard.

I have no reason to make stuff up as I dont know Ms. Gibbs or Zane, but I know who she is.

In any event, I appreciate her contributions to the C4L.

 

[Matt Collins]

Bump

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

First time I've seen this.

Interesting.

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

This thread gets an A+ in the drama department.

That's typically what I expect when I see "Started by Matt Collins"

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Blast from the past, I'd forgotten all about this. Funny how this thread wasn't completely overrun and 20 pages long... and we didn't even have a voting record yet. Now we do but since Ron is no longer in official political capacity, it seems hip to retire from politics along with him. I can only imagine how some of the margin surfers of today would've freaked out completely over this back then. It is kind of interesting going back down memory lane and seeing some of the posts people made 2 years ago and then check their current status of operation.

 

[BarryDonegan]

Winning TN for Rand Paul would be effortless. His style is built for KY, and TN is like KY minus the coal and more hard core on guns and states rights. Same region as far as manners and whatnot, which is pretty overwhelmingly critical in southern politics.

 

[fj45lvr]

Rand says that we need to have a national debate on the war and questions whether nation-building is truly conservative. Ron liked to comment on the immorality of U.S. foreign policy. Rand prefers to say we can’t afford it.

There's the big difference. What if we could afford it?? It is EVIL and IMMORAL period.

 

[Brett85]

There's the big difference. What if we could afford it?? It is EVIL and IMMORAL period.

It is a big difference, which is why Ron always pissed off the conservative base and couldn't get their votes. Rand is a lot smarter than that. I don't know why you can't see that.

 

[Indy Vidual]

So now we know the truth?

 

[fj45lvr]

It is a big difference, which is why Ron always pissed off the conservative base and couldn't get their votes. Rand is a lot smarter than that. I don't know why you can't see that.

You're saying he is a liar and I don't believe it.....either way bad juju

 

[Brett85]

You're saying he is a liar and I don't believe it.....either way bad juju

I'm saying that the only thing that matters is the actual policy, not the way the policy is sold.