The Trump Tariffs Will Kill The Guitar Industry

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I don't expect this to sway anyone's opinion but I wanted to post it anyway. Political policy is usually argued in the rarefied realm of abstract, philosophical ideas. But political policies have real world impact on real people and that often gets glossed over in political debates.

This presents just one small example of the likely effects of a particular policy being pushed around here now will have on real people, in one real industry. It's a very different take than the usual philosophical debates.

 
The meat of the video seems to start around 5:40. He's basically saying that even though the guitar may be 100% made in the USA, all of the surrounding equipment, machinery, sandpaper, light fixtures, etc, is made in other countries.

Which basically means "Made in the USA" is an illusion that glosses over the realities of manufacturing.

America has basically zero actual industrial capability at this point.
 
The guitars made in the 50's and 60's are still regarded as the best ever made correct? They were made using American equipment as far as I can figure. I'm not an expert on guitars, maybe I'm wrong.

My point is that what Trump is trying to do, bringing manufacturing back to the US, can work. It's going to suck short term, hurt our economy short term. But it would work.

I don't really have a strong opinion on it either way honestly. I'm guilty of buying the cheap new chinesium stuff, but also like the quality of older American made stuff.
 
The meat of the video seems to start around 5:40. He's basically saying that even though the guitar may be 100% made in the USA, all of the surrounding equipment, machinery, sandpaper, light fixtures, etc, is made in other countries.

Which basically means "Made in the USA" is an illusion that glosses over the realities of manufacturing.

America has basically zero actual industrial capability at this point.
Sounds like free trade killed the industry and we need tariffs to revive it and all the associated industries.
 
Hmmm. Apparently free trade is responsible for every ill.

But now that I think of it, I did hear that free trade ran over somebody's puppy once. And that it absolutely refuses to turn off its cell phone at the theater. So...
 
How did you even make it to Ron Paul Forums?
The same way I did: we agree on many many issues that Ron has advocated for.

We disagree with him on this issue.

You cannot remain a free and independent people or nation, if you must rely on every tin-pot, sweat-shop, slave-market, coolie-labor nation on the planet to make the things necessary for you to survive and defend yourself.

This is my homeland, has been my family's homeland for over 300 years, it is my children's birthright.

It is not Global Economic Zone - Grid Space: Q-Yankee-73-Niner.
 
The big problem is that California leverages free trade against other American states.
 
The meat of the video seems to start around 5:40. He's basically saying that even though the guitar may be 100% made in the USA, all of the surrounding equipment, machinery, sandpaper, light fixtures, etc, is made in other countries.

Which basically means "Made in the USA" is an illusion that glosses over the realities of manufacturing.

America has basically zero actual industrial capability at this point.
correct , 3rd world service economy , Banana repub w/ no banana. Rule of law meaningless , only applies to some
 
The meat of the video seems to start around 5:40. He's basically saying that even though the guitar may be 100% made in the USA, all of the surrounding equipment, machinery, sandpaper, light fixtures, etc, is made in other countries.

Which basically means "Made in the USA" is an illusion that glosses over the realities of manufacturing.

America has basically zero actual industrial capability at this point.

Actually, he said that the machinery had been there forever and used since the company was founded. His mention of sandpaper and light bulbs to light the room was ignorant nonsense. If it is made in America, the main cost is probably the labor, not the lightbulbs. And he did mention some of the rules on labeling something as "Made in America". That means the majority of the cost of the product must be American. That includes the labor costs that go into the product. The lightbulbs are nothing in the cost.

This guy is a stereotype example of a leftist, bleeding heart musician, who doesn't know anything about economics or math, but gets worked up by political propaganda. It's "OMG, this poor guy may go out of business. What about the children!". I know plenty of people like this.

The video was like watching a junior high school kid who is explaining his first lesson in economics.

The (US) guitar industry has long had "Made in USA" as their premium, most expensive line of guitars. Then they have their less expensive lines of guitars made (at first) in Japan, then Korea, some in China, then Vietnam.

Musicians have long bought cheaper equipment outsourced from a foreign manufacturer, or went premium with made in America equipment. Nothing is changing. If people want to buy a boutique pedal made in the US, then they will continue to do that. If they want to buy a cheap knock-off from Vietnam, they will do that.

The price of light bulbs has nothing to do with it! That is a drop of water in a swimming pool. And a US import tariff will increase the cost of the cheap import, not the one made in the US. But it won't change the purchase decision at all.

Made in USA pedal: $250.
Made in Vietnam knockoff: $25. Add a 10% tariff, it's $27.50. Hell, add a 100% tariff. It's still $50, vs. $250 for the US one.

The calculation for the purchaser has hardly changed.
 
LOL. The guy who doesn't do politics, posted right after Trump was elected that the price of IMPORTS would go up due to tariffs. The crocodile tears about US producers is a farce. So typical.

"@rhettshull

Guitar players, when the prices on pedals, import guitars, computers etc. go way up remember who did that, the man who doesn’t know how tariffs work.

3:54 AM · Nov 7, 2024"

 
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