the sky is falling

[andrewk78]

I've been here awhile but don't post much. I lurk and read pretty much everyday.
The defeatist attitudes need to stop. So Paul isn't making campaign stops. So what? We won caucuses not preference polls. campaign stops have little too no effect. Even more so win the nomination or not we have won we will continue to win.
The occupy movements the tea party the Greece roots. People are fed up and more and more people are waking up. Many movements are misguided butthe core of them are mainly the same. LIBERTY. From 2008 till now so much progress has been made
Liberty does not need a figure head. People only need to be told what true liberty is and they will wake up this does not end with Ron Paul he gave this movement a face and helped greatly to spread it. He is the father of the movement and we are it's children and it's time for the children to grow up and beat the brunt of the responsibility.
That is all

 

[wizardwatson]

A lot of people here are emotionally invested in Ron winning. There will be an emotional transition when Tampa is over. A lot of people might give up, don't know. It is about the larger movement but there is a lot of disagreement-or will be-about what to do and how to do it when Ron is gone.

See this thread

 

[Apparition]

A lot of people here are emotionally invested in Ron winning. There will be an emotional transition when Tampa is over. A lot of people might give up, don't know. It is about the larger movement but there is a lot of disagreement-or will be-about what to do and how to do it when Ron is gone.

A percentage will fall off, yes.. but those who got really invested into it enough to take over local GOP and take part in the delegate processes are well on their path to moving up the ranks and that is where ultimately Ron Paul has succeeded.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Going out in style!



See 'ya at convention!

 

[Paul Fan]

I've been here awhile but don't post much. I lurk and read pretty much everyday.
The defeatist attitudes need to stop. So Paul isn't making campaign stops. So what? We won caucuses not preference polls. campaign stops have little too no effect. Even more so win the nomination or not we have won we will continue to win.
The occupy movements the tea party the Greece roots. People are fed up and more and more people are waking up. Many movements are misguided butthe core of them are mainly the same. LIBERTY. From 2008 till now so much progress has been made
Liberty does not need a figure head. People only need to be told what true liberty is and they will wake up this does not end with Ron Paul he gave this movement a face and helped greatly to spread it. He is the father of the movement and we are it's children and it's time for the children to grow up and beat the brunt of the responsibility.
That is all

Great post. I agree. We must keep going.

 

[Romulus]

the trolls are coming out of the woodwork for this one....

carry on.

 

[andrewk78]

the trolls are coming out of the woodwork for this one....

carry on.

I live under a bridge and ask you riddles if you try to cross.

 

[dannno]

I think a lot of people are upset because they want Ron Paul to have a positive presence in the media, and they are currently plastering "Ron Paul drops out" all over everything when the e-mail didn't say anything like that. But is that any worse than completely ignoring him?


One of the thing we need to continue to do is discredit the entire media if we are ever going to win. That has been happening, slowly, for a long time. We are winning the fight. Media viewership is very low and has been highly discredited. They are always going to put down Ron Paul, we need to put them down and keep doing what we do.

 

[Romulus]

I live under a bridge and ask you riddles if you try to cross.

not you.. others

 

[LKMN]

Liberty does not need a figure head. People only need to be told what true liberty is and they will wake up this does not end with Ron Paul he gave this movement a face and helped greatly to spread it. He is the father of the movement and we are it's children and it's time for the children to grow up and beat the brunt of the responsibility.
That is all

+rep

 

[Noble Savage]

you cry about being a slave but you signed the papers yourself

 

[DamianTV]

A lot of people here are emotionally invested in Ron winning. There will be an emotional transition when Tampa is over. A lot of people might give up, don't know. It is about the larger movement but there is a lot of disagreement-or will be-about what to do and how to do it when Ron is gone.

See this thread

There are SEVEN stages of grief.

I know many are hopeful that they wont have to go through any of them, and we have a good possiblity that they may not. But lets flip the coin for a second. Look at the Romney supporters, and what they would go through if they lost. Romney supporters would give up on their candidate, but the next available opportunity they have to fuck up someone elses lives, they will jump on it with the same passion as they had for Romney. That means we need to be MORE passionate, MORE driven, MORE obsessed, turn out in droves, inspire the ideas of Freedom and continue pushing them back until they have no where else to go except to join us.

 

[r3volution]

i personally have given up ,


































































listening to the media yrs ago . you should too .

 

[cstarace]

It's hard to not get discouraged. I sometimes dream of getting a little house or cabin somewhere in the wilderness completely secluded from the rest of society. No television, no internet...kind of like the Unabomber. Just with less violation of the NAP.

 

[Mini-Me]

A lot of people here are emotionally invested in Ron winning. There will be an emotional transition when Tampa is over. A lot of people might give up, don't know. It is about the larger movement but there is a lot of disagreement-or will be-about what to do and how to do it when Ron is gone.

See this thread

I do have an emotional investment in seeing Ron win, but I'm still not the kind of person who refuses to admit it's over once it is. In fact, I quietly accepted after Super Tuesday that the 2012 campaign was all but over, and I've since been focusing on my own life, both for its own sake and so I can have the credibility to join local party politics and start working my way into some useful position before 2016.

Nevertheless, I've been keeping casual tabs on what's been going on, and I was both surprised and awed at the states we have been sweeping left and right over the past few weeks! Right before this email was sent out, I think we were actually at the high point of the campaign in many ways, or at least the high point after Iowa. When I thought the campaign was done for two months ago, I was wrong. If I had spent my time since then posting about it and trying to convince other people to join me in defeat (or regrouping, however you want to put it), I might have done some real damage to the morale of people on this board who have made these great things happen. Think about that.

Although the Paul campaign is legitimately struggling too much financially to fund popular primaries, the timing simply does not make sense for this email to mean what you think it means. I understand that you were already hugely skeptical about our delegate chances even before this email, so I think you should consider whether it's just fueling your confirmation bias.

That's not to say I necessarily agree with wording the email like this: I agree the tone is defeatist, and it's yet to be seen whether the email was an incompetent blunder, part one of a brilliant two-part gambit (wherein "further instructions" in a few days will be paired with a motivating speech, after the media has irrevocably killed any sense of activity among Romney supporters), or whether you are correct...but I do not believe you are correct. In fact, Jesse Benton's most recent "clarification" pretty much rules out that possibility.

Even if you believe the campaign over, I suggest that you walk away quietly instead of trying to convince others of the same: The last thing you want is to discourage a bunch of supporters about this Presidential campaign, only to find out later that you may have been wrong after all. We can survive people being delusional about winning if there's no chance, but great harm will come from supporters bringing each other down if there is a chance. Do you understand what I mean? I think you should start asking yourself the question, "What if I'm wrong?" I understand if you're trying to ease people into a longer-term mindset before they "give up" in despair and leave forever, but you cannot successfully achieve that anyway by trying to convince people the campaign is over. The only way to convince people to make longer term efforts is to put positive energy behind a long-term push of your choosing, and people receptive to it will gradually shift toward it once THEY are convinced their efforts would be better spent there.

 

[MikeStanart]

I just can't go on like this anymore










































I've been paying way too much for my car insurance; I'm switching to GEICO.

 

[Revolution9]

It's hard to not get discouraged. I sometimes dream of getting a little house or cabin somewhere in the wilderness completely secluded from the rest of society. No television, no internet...kind of like the Unabomber. Just with less violation of the NAP.

That is what I got pal. Cabin..6 inch wood walls, 17,000 acre backyard. Got fed up with th city of rap and sirens obnoxious TV coming through the alls, everybody with a hand out and a cuss if ya don't toss 'em a pretty penny. Now..No TV..just internet so I can make a good living designing and building MMORPG's. Had a cool encounter with a 350 pound bear two nights back, and this thing kept banging into my patio door last night. I opened it a crack and this 10 inch wingspan moth I swore must have been a bat the way the wings sounded when they hit the ceiling had me ducking and dodging for twenty minutes till it wore its ass out and I could catch it and send it back outside./If I had a huge library and a stash of cash i would forego the internet too. Gets to be I read the whole damned thing and am sifting clones for further info and data.

Rev9