The Single Most Important Documentary I've Ever Found

Those things have no place on a board like this in my opinion. Science and alternative theory isn't even given a platform thread for discussion here. Probably by design. Let's face it, as close as you get to anything scientific here is to talk about an algorithm to link to data to a google ad for who the heck ever is marketing their latest notion to cash in. Now that doesn't remove them from relevance but there are actual platforms for such discussion with like minded people and that's where you stand a chance at becoming organized and involved with what others are doing. If you would like, I can introduce you to those circles of discussion. Many of the folks cited often are involved with discussion and ...lets say efforts...regarding the subjects.

Points 1 and 3 may be subject matter relative to this platform as far as spin factor but in retrospect and in true scope they are irrelevant anyhow.

liberty2897 made a profound statement in those few sentences. Platforms conforming to those scribbles exist. That's where they need to remain and remain in the company of those who believe it to be true and are doing something to place those ideas into application and relevance.

I don't agree that it shouldn't be discussed here. If you are simply saying that RPF doesn't have the correct membership to bring about real progress on the subject, I at least mostly agree. And you're right, there isn't a dedicated sub-forum for it.

I'd love to be introduced to the correct circles :)
 
Those things have no place on a board like this in my opinion. Science and alternative theory isn't even given a platform thread for discussion here. Probably by design. Let's face it, as close as you get to anything scientific here is to talk about an algorithm to link to data to a google ad for who the heck ever is marketing their latest notion to cash in. Now that doesn't remove them from relevance but there are actual platforms for such discussion with like minded people and that's where you stand a chance at becoming organized and involved with what others are doing. If you would like, I can introduce you to those circles of discussion. Many of the folks cited often are involved with discussion and ...lets say efforts...regarding the subjects.

Points 1 and 3 may be subject matter relative to this platform as far as spin factor but in retrospect and in true scope they are irrelevant anyhow.

liberty2897 made a profound statement in those few sentences. Platforms conforming to those scribbles exist. That's where they need to remain and remain in the company of those who believe it to be true and are doing something to place those ideas into application and relevance.


I believe that
suppression of information and the
government overreach into free
energy is very relevant.
 
I don't agree that it shouldn't be discussed here. If you are simply saying that RPF doesn't have the correct membership to bring about real progress on the subject, I at least mostly agree. And you're right, there isn't a dedicated sub-forum for it.

I'd love to be introduced to the correct circles :)

What I mean is that change isn't as political as many would like others to simply accept. There has been a theoretical line dividing science and politics for a very long time. It has been a necessary line of division. I think we can all agree that science and technology is changing the world. But science goes beyond ipods and ads. Change is happening in a far broader manner than many actually look to see. That said, there really shouldn't be any wine before it's time. If that makes sense. If you want to really become involved with and become aquainted with the efforts coming from the science community as a whole that is change then it really should be understood that politics (or public perception of politics) are the last thing we need in that mix. At least the kind of political discussion that would typically disregard the relevance in it. And that's what I see here for the most part. Heck. Couple of days and this thread will be 3 pages down and forgotten about. That's just a fact. It's a choice that people make. As such, change in it's truest form will pass most right by.

I'll gather some useful links though and pm them. There are many platforms established in the science community for such discussion on how to become relevant to change.
 
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What I mean is that change isn't as political as many would like others to simply accept. There has been a theoretical line dividing science and politics for a very long time. It has been a necessary line of division. I think we can all agree that science and technology is changing the world. But science goes beyond ipods and ads. Change is happening in a far broader manner than many actually look to see. That said, there really shouldn't be any wine before it's time. If that makes sense. If you want to really become involved with and become aquainted with the efforts coming from the science community as a whole that is change then it really should be understood that politics (or public perception of politics) are the last thing we need in that mix. At least the kind of political discussion that would typically disregard the relevance in it. And that's what I see here for the most part. Heck. Couple of days and this thread will be 3 pages down and forgotten about. That's just a fact. It's a choice that people make. As such, change in it's truest form will pass most right by.

I'll gather some useful links though and pm them. There are many platforms established in the science community for such discussion on how to become relevant to change.

I definitely understand you now. Thank you and I look forward to the links :)
 
What I mean is that change isn't as political as many would like others to simply accept. There has been a theoretical line dividing science and politics for a very long time. It has been a necessary line of division. I think we can all agree that science and technology is changing the world. But science goes beyond ipods and ads. Change is happening in a far broader manner than many actually look to see. That said, there really shouldn't be any wine before it's time. If that makes sense. If you want to really become involved with and become aquainted with the efforts coming from the science community as a whole that is change then it really should be understood that politics (or public perception of politics) are the last thing we need in that mix. At least the kind of political discussion that would typically disregard the relevance in it. And that's what I see here for the most part. Heck. Couple of days and this thread will be 3 pages down and forgotten about. That's just a fact. It's a choice that people make. As such, change in it's truest form will pass most right by.

I'll gather some useful links though and pm them. There are many platforms established in the science community for such discussion on how to become relevant to change.

I understand your meaning, I just don't see it like that. I prefer to look as this site as not a face of politics, but the face of liberty grass roots.
Free energy is a grass roots issue.

However I do see a trend of users falling off the map here and threads continue to get buried behind the same used out rhetoric/topics.
 
I understand your meaning, I just don't see it like that. I prefer to look as this site as not a face of politics, but the face of liberty grass roots.
Free energy is a grass roots issue.

However I do see a trend of users falling off the map here and threads continue to get buried behind the same used out rhetoric/topics.

Agreed 100%
 
His proton theory is absolutely ridiculous to the point of discrediting everything he has ever done or will ever do, though

Your theory that you can discredit one thing that's debateable or false and then discredit his entire worldview and works over it (plenty of which only loosely related to whatever it is you take issue with), is absolutely ridiculous to the point of discrediting everything you have ever said or will say.

I still have to watch the end about solutions, but I thought it was a very good documentary, a tad on the generalization side with not a ton of supporting evidence in the doucmentary, but it was clearly meant to be rhetorical rather than meant to be a source of proof of these ideas. However, many of those ideas are very verifiable, including J.P> Morgna shutting down Tesla's work, which was obviously, much like everything else meant to protect industry (and thus industry leader goals) at the cost of human progress.

Will report back on the solution part, but thanks for sharing.
 
I still have to watch the end about solutions, but I thought it was a very good documentary, a tad on the generalization side with not a ton of supporting evidence in the doucmentary, but it was clearly meant to be rhetorical rather than meant to be a source of proof of these ideas. However, many of those ideas are very verifiable, including J.P> Morgna shutting down Tesla's work, which was obviously, much like everything else meant to protect industry (and thus industry leader goals) at the cost of human progress.

Will report back on the solution part, but thanks for sharing.

You're welcome. I won't ruin the ending, but you'll like it :)
 
I definitely understand you now. Thank you and I look forward to the links :)

I'm putting some links together for you. You may have to join some networks to participate in various discussion though. The flipside of it is that you'll simply have to deal with being in the same company of different aspects of political position if you choose to participate. United we stand and all of that happy shit. You know? Can't help it. Worst that can happen is some dolt will call you a globalist when some issues come up.

Also, how do you feel about participating in areas of action/discussion where your name is required for registration on boards? I'm not going to bother with some of them if that's something you're not comfortable doing. Although, to be clear, there really is no such thing as online anonymity anyhow. That's an illusion. People get the notion that you really want to help and inform others when we know who we are talking to.
 
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I'm putting some links together for you. You may have to join some networks to participate in various discussion though. The flipside of it is that you'll simply have to deal with being in the same company of different aspects of political position if you choose to participate. United we stand and all of that happy shit. You know? Can't help it. Worst that can happen is some dolt will call you a globalist when some issues come up.

Also, how do you feel about participating in areas of action/discussion where your name is required for registration on boards? I'm not going to bother with some of them if that's something you're not comfortable doing. Although, to be clear, there really is no such thing as online anonymity anyhow. That's an illusion. People get the notion that you really want to help and inform others when we know who we are talking to.

Lol I will get called a globalist? I can handle that. And every member here is on file at a fusion center/NSA with their real name whether they know it or not. I have no qualms about using my real name to join a forum.
 
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Well it's a long doc...over two hours, so took me two days to finish watching it all, but I decided to give it a chance... I've seen it floating around online before, but didn't watch past the intro about aliens, etc.

Anyway so many topics to discuss, but...confirms my suspicion there are Taoist/Buddhist undercurrents and influences in the liberty and freedom movements, as well as Christian ones... well how does that spontaneous order market thing work anyhow...all by itself, without need of government intervention and central planning to make it "go"? So is the "invisible hand" a "torus" pattern? Look they are describing the same phenomenon, IMO:

I, Pencil, am a complex combination of miracles: a tree, zinc, copper, graphite, and so on. But to these miracles which manifest themselves in Nature an even more extraordinary miracle has been added: the configuration of creative human energies—millions of tiny know-hows configurating naturally and spontaneously in response to human necessity and desire and in the absence of any human master-minding! Since only God can make a tree, I insist that only God could make me. Man can no more direct these millions of know-hows to bring me into being than he can put molecules together to create a tree.

The above is what I meant when writing, "If you can become aware of the miraculousness which I symbolize, you can help save the freedom mankind is so unhappily losing." For, if one is aware that these know-hows will naturally, yes, automatically, arrange themselves into creative and productive patterns in response to human necessity and demand—that is, in the absence of governmental or any other coercive masterminding—then one will possess an absolutely essential ingredient for freedom: a faith in free people. Freedom is impossible without this faith.
- Leonard E. Read

Pratitya samutpada is sometimes called the teaching of cause and effect, but that can be misleading, because we usually think of cause and effect as separate entities, with cause always preceding effect, and one cause leading to one effect. According to the teaching of Interdependent Co-Arising, cause and effect co-arise (samutpada) and everything is a result of multiple causes and conditions... In the sutras, this image is given: "Three cut reeds can stand only by leaning on one another. If you take one away, the other two will fall." For a table to exist, we need wood, a carpenter, time, skillfulness, and many other causes. And each of these causes needs other causes to be. The wood needs the forest, the sunshine, the rain, and so on. The carpenter needs his parents, breakfast, fresh air, and so on. And each of those things, in turn, has to be brought about by other causes and conditions. If we continue to look in this way, we'll see that nothing has been left out. Everything in the cosmos has come together to bring us this table. Looking deeply at the sunshine, the leaves of the tree, and the clouds, we can see the table. The one can be seen in the all, and the all can be seen in the one. One cause is never enough to bring about an effect. A cause must, at the same time, be an effect, and every effect must also be the cause of something else. Cause and effect inter-are. The idea of first and only cause, something that does not itself need a cause, cannot be applied.
- Thich Nhat Hanh
 
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This was a really good movie. The only thing missing in the script is Ron Paul when he's discuss the evils of the FED Reserve. He mentioned everyone but Ron Paul. At least narrator did mention the best thing we can do is join the movement to audit and end the FED Reserve. That would have to be the Ron Paul Revolution. lol

I played the movie from my YouTube remote to the TV so everyone could watch and listen. The narrator explained how the media is a public relation enity to the evil hell bent on bringing down America with problem, action, solution - he did a very good job .. my whole family agreed with him.

Great movie - thanks.
 
I stopped watching at aliens.

Just skip that part. It's been thoroughly explained in this thread what they are talking about in that segment. But it's only like 5 minutes. Just skip it. It's a very important documentary. I would not be putting in any effort to get you to watch the rest if I didn't feel it was worth your time. Seriously, please watch the rest.
 
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This was a really good movie. The only thing missing in the script is Ron Paul when he's discuss the evils of the FED Reserve. He mentioned everyone but Ron Paul. At least narrator did mention the best thing we can do is join the movement to audit and end the FED Reserve. That would have to be the Ron Paul Revolution. lol

I played the movie from my YouTube remote to the TV so everyone could watch and listen. The narrator explained how the media is a public relation enity to the evil hell bent on bringing down America with problem, action, solution - he did a very good job .. my whole family agreed with him.

Great movie - thanks.

Lol yeah he left out Ron, but there's so much important info in this doc that we talk about. And he ends it by advocating Non Aggression :)

Awesome that you watched it with you're family :) The more people that see this and learn the info the better.
 
Just skip that part. It's been thoroughly explained in this thread what they are talking about in that segment. But it's only like 5 minutes. Just skip it. It's a very important documentary. I would not be putting in any effort to get you to watch the rest if I didn't feel it was worth your time. Seriously, please watch the rest.

Agreed. The idea of a infinite cluster of galaxies, and the theory of unification
is touched more upon than the ET subjectmatter. And even that conversation only
lasts maybe 30-45 mins. This documentary is about intellectual suppression.
 
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