the sheeple still rate FDR #1 pres

[Galileo Galilei]

So what? Stop requiring me to pay income taxes and lower my total tax burden to less than 5%... and I'll happily renounce my right to vote.

Did you forget the context of this sideshow? You said we seceded for the British Empire despite taxes that weren't all that high. So then you said that means South Carolina should have nullified the tariff in 1830.

But I said for the tariff in 1830, South Carolina had representation. That means South Carolina agreed to the deal. The American colonies in the Revoltution did not agree to the deal.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Did you forget the context of this sideshow? You said we seceded for the British Empire despite taxes that weren't all that high. So then you said that means South Carolina should have nullified the tariff in 1830.

But I said for the tariff in 1830, South Carolina had representation. That means South Carolina agreed to the deal. The American colonies in the Revoltution did not agree to the deal.

Wrong. How many people that signed the ratification were even still alive in South Carolina in the 1830s? I'd wager not too many. Obviously in 1830 South Carolina did not agree to that rate of tariff on those goods enumerated.

Bah I replied to the troll! Time to put him on ignore so I don't solly myself

 

[Galileo Galilei]

Wrong. How many people that signed the ratification were even still alive in South Carolina in the 1830s? I'd wager not too many. Obviously in 1830 South Carolina did not agree to that rate of tariff on those goods enumerated.

Bah I replied to the troll! Time to put him on ignore so I don't solly myself

Err, now you abandon states rights? Let me get this straight; states rights are really bad when Georgia kills the Cherokee, but its just fine and dandy for states to enslave 4 million black people?

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

The little prostitute certainly doesn't understand

As if to imply the archetypal false dichotomy. If you have a point to make, at least be clear about it.

What does any of this have to do with the topic at hand? If you're trying to be oblique you have, perhaps, succeeded beyond your wildest expectations because if I didn't know better, I would think you were very stoned on acid.

So once again, if you have a point to make, how about some plain English, because what you posted is not even good as gibberish, no offense.

Never converse with the cruel world on matters pertaining to the cruel world. In the meantime, I'm going to mind my own business.

 

[osan]

As the king's business will always be deemed official, thus being one that he can mind, the little prostitute's business will always be one that is deemed illegal. Therefore, she has no business to mind. If I decide to forfeit my business to keep out of her business, that is my choice. In other words, we don't have to do anything to avoid being deadbeats. The true deadbeat is the corporate dad. He is the one with many wives and lots of children. He works hard at creating inequity. He is the one the courts have to just shrug their shoulders at. What can they do with a man who has so many children? Still, in the back of their minds, the courts have to marvel at his business. Wow! What a man!

If you have a point to make, try English. This is not even good gibberish.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Stop acting like you don't understand

If you have a point to make, try English. This is not even good gibberish.

As the king has a legitimate official business to mind, the little trespassng prostitute has an illegitimate one. Therefore, the prostitute isn't allowed to mind her own business. As the king of a dinner table, I choose to restrict my business to enhance hers. It it is the Truth that set us free and that it is also true this nation was established on that Truth, then this means both the king and the prostitute were created equal having been born with the same exact business agenda.

 

[JeNNiF00F00]

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[Dr.3D]

Dood what ARE you smoking?

That or some kind of veiled message or secret code.

 

[cindy25]

dieing in office has something to do with it. Lincoln (1c) FDR (!0c) JFK (50c) all died in office. Harding was widely popular after he died in office.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Dood what ARE you smoking?

Look, by Locke's "natural law," I was born receiving an equal share of property. If I decide to forfeit that natural right to help someone else establish their business, with this person being the little prostitute trespassing on the street, then that is my choice. This means I am helping someone by not doing something. If you don't understand, then study more.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Logic is the language used by tyranny.

That or some kind of veiled message or secret code.

Or perhaps I took better notes in class?

 

[Legend1104]

Is it false that the Confederacy was backed by, and capitulating with the same Empire we declared Independence from, and were at war with not even 30 years prior to the Civil war? They were forced to stay a part of the Union b/c Lincoln won a war which was really against the British Empire and the United States remained Soveriegn and not subject to British Control, up unto the point of the assassination of President William McKinley, which was also at the hand of London.

I think you're a British Imperial Sympathizer that subscribes to the Imperial "Free Trade/Market" Policies of Adam Smith of London School of Economics, contrary to the American System.

I would definitely support Adam smith's ideas over the amercian system. Smith's ideas are the grand parent of the austrian school later to come. The American systme was a horribly unconstitutional system of raping the south at the expense of businesses in the north.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Tyranny has no business dirtying their hands with the people's economy

I would definitely support Adam smith's ideas over the amercian system. Smith's ideas are the grand parent of the austrian school later to come. The American systme was a horribly unconstitutional system of raping the south at the expense of businesses in the north.

When considering the economy of the people, one must also consider the sovereignty of tyranny. As the people are at a disadvantage needing to be frugal in their desperate affairs, tyranny will always have nice clothing to wear, rich food to eat, as well as means available to transport them around from place to place.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

I would definitely support Adam smith's ideas over the amercian system. Smith's ideas are the grand parent of the austrian school later to come. The American systme was a horribly unconstitutional system of raping the south at the expense of businesses in the north.

Eh....Adam Smith while advancing a few good ideas (almost mostly policy rather than analytical/praxeological), held a lot of horrible ideas. There were much more prominent economists at the time, and Jefferson himself didn't take too kindly to Smith. The first Proto-Austrians were the Spanish Theologians known as the School of Salamanca in the 1500 and 1600s.

And while I would also endorse Adam Smiths ideas over our current system, its more akin to choosing if you want to be shot in the heart, or in the leg. I'd prefer not to be shot at all.

If you want to praise some economists during his time A.J. Turgot, and J.B. Say are the two best, and Cantillon from a little before. They were Laissez-Fairests, not Smith

 

[Dr.3D]

Or perhaps I took better notes in class?

Sure, but which class? Doesn't sound like anything to do with any U.S. President being better than another. I kind of thought that was what this thread was about.

 

[osan]

Dood what ARE you smoking?

Whatever it is, he's not sharing.

 

[osan]

Look, by Locke's "natural law," I was born receiving an equal share of property.

No. You were born with equal claim to stroke out and make your own fortunes as your abilities and diligence allow.

The rest of your post is poorly written and not readily parsable. You need to work on your writing skills. A lot.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

Eh....Adam Smith while advancing a few good ideas (almost mostly policy rather than analytical/praxeological), held a lot of horrible ideas. There were much more prominent economists at the time, and Jefferson himself didn't take too kindly to Smith. The first Proto-Austrians were the Spanish Theologians known as the School of Salamanca in the 1500 and 1600s.

And while I would also endorse Adam Smiths ideas over our current system, its more akin to choosing if you want to be shot in the heart, or in the leg. I'd prefer not to be shot at all.

If you want to praise some economists during his time A.J. Turgot, and J.B. Say are the two best, and Cantillon from a little before. They were Laissez-Fairests, not Smith

Ya, those Spanish were really into economic liberty. Galileo couldn't even sell his books there.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

No. You were born with equal claim to stroke out and make your own fortunes as your abilities and diligence allow.

The rest of your post is poorly written and not readily parsable. You need to work on your writing skills. A lot.

You don't seem to understand that there is a difference between natural rights and civil rights. Until you do, we can't have a discussion on which president is great or not. Natural law exists in deep theory. It exists in a reality beyond the observable evidence that we can see directly with our senses. The Truth always exists on the other side of the wall, so to speak. Yet, our Founding Fathers declared that certain truths are self evident (clearly evidenced). In other words, this is something bipartisan that can't be refuted by the king's wizards and philosophers as such a conclusion does not need to be backed by proof, by referencing or by the opinions of experts. The instrument used to perceive these unalienable truths (Truth) is the collective human soul, conscience, or, as many romantics like to refer to it, heart.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

The true grandmaster doesn't play his lessor opponent

Sure, but which class? Doesn't sound like anything to do with any U.S. President being better than another. I kind of thought that was what this thread was about.

Your opinion is based on material. In other words, the only thing keeping you here as an American is material gain. If it doesn't have a dollar sign on it, then it is nonsense. Take the profit away and, like many, you will just move off to Canada.