The Root of Beck's Delusions...

[CountryboyRonPaul]

I personally think Beck's problem stems from working for the corporate media.

What do all the coporate media people that support big govt have in common? They work for the same people!

Glenn Beck could turn atheist tomorrow, and if thats what it took to make him stop supporting the wars, FOX would promptly pull his show and replace him with someone who does.

 

[noxagol]

The real problem is there are far too many people NOT thinking for themselves and instead rely upon other people to think for them, be it minister or corporate talking shithead. Far too few people look at things and REALLY analyze them. Most can't see past the immediate and most obvious consequences of anything. THAT is the real cause of the problems.

As far as beck goes, he's a shill for the media which is a shill for the government. Any time he seems to go against government it is because it is either the 'opposite' party doing things, or he needs a ratings boost and anti-government thought is the cool thing to do.

 

[puppetmaster]

Lack of religion can be used just as easily. Look at the Soviet Union.

Often times this leads to worship of other men, or the institutions of men.

So it can work both ways.

True, It is these tools that are used to control the minds of the human race. We are predictable and fallible and will be led to the edge of the cliff by all these types of mind control. Human nature baby....gotta love it:o

Whether you are a spiritual person or not you have to admit these are tools that have and will continue to be used to manipulate mankind.

 

[mconder]

The Book of Mormon is the book of scripture that "Mormon" tradition looks to most and it teaches explicitly against pre-emptive war and that nations are only justified in defense.

See article Open Letter to Mormons Regarding Ron Paul from lewrockwell.com

 

[reardenstone]

You have quite clearly no idea what you are talking about when it comes to religion. Mormon theology would not support intervening on behalf of Israel because they hold themselves to be the only true Israelites.

Also, historic Christian doctrine holds that the Church is Israel now.

I agree with you but I don't think 99.9% of the American Protestants know that. You gotta a lotta knowledge on this stuff; do you have a blog? I think more people need to read and take notice of Christians (if you are) that are well informed and speak without judging.

 

[misterx]

Don't you people ever get tired of bashing your allies? Holding everyone to your ideological litmus test to make sure they think exactly like you on everything is the best way to make sure your movement never gets anywhere. You need to find common ground with people if you want to accomplish anything, and there is a lot of common ground to be found with Beck.

 

[reardenstone]

Don't you people ever get tired of bashing your allies? Holding everyone to your ideological litmus test to make sure they think exactly like you on everything is the best way to make sure your movement never gets anywhere. You need to find common ground with people if you want to accomplish anything, and there is a lot of common ground to be found with Beck.

Well the problem is that we HAVE given him chances yet he will start to say things that we agree with, and then he will fall back on "Fox-friendly" neocon talk.

We would no doubt support him IF he extended a hand our way.
Beck would have to have Ron Paul or a Ron Paul Liberty candidate or speaker on either his radio or TV show, AND he would have to admit, really admit that the same progressives he is ranting about are the same ones in office now that have led us into preemptive war and interventionism for the last 60 years.

He talks big about intervention only up until about 1940 and then he drops the talk quick before his NWO neocon masters crack the whip.

If he really wants to work with us he should finish the story on interventionism.

 

[bunklocoempire]

I have been scratching my head, trying to figure out how someone like Beck can be 80% of the way there on most issues, but still hold several ridiculous views on wars and "social issues" that seem to be diametrically opposed to his other, more well-reasoned views.

Beck's problem, I have discovered, is religion.

Religion warps Beck's views on "moral" issues and causes him to support the Neocon vision of fighting endless, collective wars, mostly on behalf of Israel. After all, it is a good Christian's duty to protect Israel at any cost. Even if the cost is the downfall of this nation.

Like George W, Beck has relied on religion to keep him off the booze. But like George W, it has also warped his reasoning skills and his ability to think critically.

There is a difference between ‘religion’ and faith.

Beck’s problem is not religion.

One may be gung-ho for the ‘religion’ of liberty, but lacking in faith to do what liberty requires.

I find the amount of fear one concentrates on, or spreads, seems to be directly proportional to ones faith and the ability to act on one’s faith.

Ron Paul does not concentrate on fear.

Bunkloco

 

[noxagol]

Why beck is not our friend:

YouTube - glen beck says ,ron paul supporters are terrorists

 

[Liberty Stud]

I think he outed himself as a guy with no principles, when he shilled for Perry, and stabbed a patriot in the back. When it matters most, Beck is not on our side.

Well Beck sucker-punched Medina because he thought she might be a "911 Truther," which would automatically make her the SWORN enemy of any Neocon. 911 Truthers will not toe the line on fighting wars on behalf of Israel, so of course the Neocon side of Beck took over.

When the chips are down, the "religious" influence on Beck causes him to default to his Neocon ways. Palin, for example, is another Neocon who is influenced by religion into supporting endless wars, especially on Israel's behalf. It also causes someone like her, who claims to favor small government, to try to put federal laws into place forcing women to bear the children of men who raped them.

 

[TNforPaul45]

The real problem is there are far too many people NOT thinking for themselves and instead rely upon other people to think for them, be it minister or corporate talking shithead. Far too few people look at things and REALLY analyze them. Most can't see past the immediate and most obvious consequences of anything. THAT is the real cause of the problems.

As far as beck goes, he's a shill for the media which is a shill for the government. Any time he seems to go against government it is because it is either the 'opposite' party doing things, or he needs a ratings boost and anti-government thought is the cool thing to do.

This is EXACTLY part of the problem, with the general populace. The Idea that a Christian would support Israel at all costs is not sensible. This idea has sprung from what I call the "neo-christian" movement, by modern preachers and Christian leaders who see Israel as the fulfillment of prophecy from the book of Revelations (which in and of itself is a dangerous thing to do).

You combine neo-christianity, with people not thinking for themselves, and you have the roots of modern neo-conservatism. Easily defined religious paradigms that feel good and take no hard thought or analysis, which set up a clear us vs. them, mix in some "Israel is mentioned so much in the bible they must be the nation we have to be cannon fodder for" mentality, and throw in heaps of money from whoever is employing him and VIOLA! You have the driving forces of Glen Beck.

 

[misterx]

Why beck is not our friend:

YouTube - glen beck says ,ron paul supporters are terrorists

I just watched the entire clip. Nowhere did he say or even insinuate that Ron Paul supporters were terrorists. Much of what he said actually sounded like he was in support of Ron Paul. Besides, this clip is from several years ago, and Beck's views have come more in line with Paul's with each passing year.

 

[nate895]

I agree with you but I don't think 99.9% of the American Protestants know that. You gotta a lotta knowledge on this stuff; do you have a blog? I think more people need to read and take notice of Christians (if you are) that are well informed and speak without judging.

I am a Christian, and I am eventually going to start a blog to defend the faith, but I've been saying that for well over 6 months now.

 

[KCIndy]

There is a video of Beck on YouTube stating that he he became a Mormon so that he could get in his wife's pants. Him being Mormon is as simple as that.

HA!! I know I shouldn't laugh, but this explains SO MUCH about Beck if it's true.

Does anyone have a link to the YouTube in question??? Please??

 

[Baptist]

HA!! I know I shouldn't laugh, but this explains SO MUCH about Beck if it's true.

Does anyone have a link to the YouTube in question??? Please??

If you Google "Glenn Beck Mormon Wife Sex" you will see lots of articles but the video no longer plays because it was pulled. Stossel is all over YouTube and I've never seen one pulled for copyright issues. Guess the people who have an interest in keeping Beck's "Christian image" had it yanked. We would not want the Fox News crowd seeing this video now, would we?

I did find another after some searching though. 4:15 mark.

YouTube - Glenn Beck on 2020 with John Stossel

 

[Liberty Stud]

Beck should get that double chin removed. It's distracting.

 

[catdd]

There is a difference between ‘religion’ and faith.

Beck’s problem is not religion.

One may be gung-ho for the ‘religion’ of liberty, but lacking in faith to do what liberty requires.

I find the amount of fear one concentrates on, or spreads, seems to be directly proportional to ones faith and the ability to act on one’s faith.

Ron Paul does not concentrate on fear.

Bunkloco

I agree. I've always thought Beck a fearful person, it's one thing all sheep have in common.
You can't have faith and fear.

 

[KCIndy]

If you Google "Glenn Beck Mormon Wife Sex" you will see lots of articles but the video no longer plays because it was pulled. Stossel is all over YouTube and I've never seen one pulled for copyright issues. Guess the people who have an interest in keeping Beck's "Christian image" had it yanked. We would not want the Fox News crowd seeing this video now, would we?

I did find another after some searching though. 4:15 mark.

Wow...

Thanks, Baptist!

Interesting that of the zillions of Beck clips on YouTube, it's that one that keeps getting pulled... hmmm....

 

[Ninja Homer]

I have been scratching my head, trying to figure out how someone like Beck can be 80% of the way there on most issues, but still hold several ridiculous views on wars and "social issues" that seem to be diametrically opposed to his other, more well-reasoned views.

Beck's problem, I have discovered, is religion.

Religion warps Beck's views on "moral" issues and causes him to support the Neocon vision of fighting endless, collective wars, mostly on behalf of Israel. After all, it is a good Christian's duty to protect Israel at any cost. Even if the cost is the downfall of this nation.

Like George W, Beck has relied on religion to keep him off the booze. But like George W, it has also warped his reasoning skills and his ability to think critically.

Beck says what he says because he gets the big bucks to say it... it's as simple as that.

It's obvious to me now that the plan was to hijack the Ron Paul Revolution/Tea Party movement and herd it into supporting a neocon of their choosing... specifically, Sarah Palin. The plan was probably put together even before Palin was named as McCain's VP choice. This movement is TPTB's biggest fear, no doubt about it. They don't care who is elected as long as they can be controlled to keep the Fed going, keep the military industrial complex going, etc. Palin would roll over quick as a contestant in bed with a beauty pageant judge. (I worked for that one )

 

[BlackTerrel]

I have been scratching my head, trying to figure out how someone like Beck can be 80% of the way there on most issues, but still hold several ridiculous views on wars and "social issues" that seem to be diametrically opposed to his other, more well-reasoned views.

Beck's problem, I have discovered, is religion.

Religion warps Beck's views on "moral" issues and causes him to support the Neocon vision of fighting endless, collective wars, mostly on behalf of Israel. After all, it is a good Christian's duty to protect Israel at any cost. Even if the cost is the downfall of this nation.

Like George W, Beck has relied on religion to keep him off the booze. But like George W, it has also warped his reasoning skills and his ability to think critically.

This forum seems to have a lot more atheists than the population at large - just an observation.

There is nothing wrong with Beck's religion and Steve Young is awesome.

Beck is mentally unstable - that is all. I don't "hate" him like some people here do. I think he's a guy with opinions and I disagree with him on a lot of things. He's also not 100% there, and seems unbalanced.