The rise and fall of the libertarians?

[younglibertarian]

I hope the LP is not the Tea Party 2.0

 

[dbill27]

Like half of my ron paul supporter facebook friends that I assumed were libertarians are now supporting trump, sanders and are continously posting anti-free trade or anti market things without even seeming to realize that they supported the complete opposite of that 4 years ago. A lot of the people who supported ron paul were just as derpy or more so than the average voter. Even glenn beck is principled enought to see thru trump for god's sake.

 

[younglibertarian]

Like half of my ron paul supporter facebook friends that I assumed were libertarians are now supporting trump, sanders and are continously posting anti-free trade or anti market things without even seeming to realize that they supported the complete opposite of that 4 years ago. A lot of the people who supported ron paul were just as derpy or more so than the average voter. Even glenn beck is principled enought to see thru trump for god's sake.

Honestly I think Ron Paul's Anti-War policies were the main attraction to his campaign. Also explains the massive votes on campuses.

 

[Natural Citizen]

And today, 8 years after Ron Paul ignited a cultural firestorm, it seems libertarianism is totally dead. Who is there to continue it? What can we do to get back on our feet?

What we're seeing (well...if we're paying attention) is that progressives are beginning to make organized moves to kind of repatriate libertarian ideology or principles from a Cultural Marxist perspective in the direction of their audiences. Actually, I'd meant to follow up on this thought in another thread. I just never did. This is something we'd do well to acknowledge and head off at the pass. The fact is that there are a growig number of young people (a measurable demograph) who are attracted to libertarian principles but they're confused by a progressive push for A Democracy in the name of Democracy and from behind the cloak of libertarianism. The progressives are winning on that front. Problem is that modern libertarians tend to want to participate in intellectual contests and a bunch of dick waving among themselves instead of focusing their time and energy where it could actually grow onto others. People are going to have to learn to get in the mix in a lot of those progressive circles instead of preaching to the choir all of the time. An opportunity exists to win minds. For the time being anyway. Of course, there are also some so called "conservative" platforms out there operating behind the cloak of libertarianism, too. both are essentially functioning as stalking horses.

Good question, though. A meaningful question.

I'm going to try to follow up on what I mention here in a more detailed way as time passes. Maybe in this thread. Not sure. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...n-RT-America&p=6216499&viewfull=1#post6216499

Along those lines, there are some things I'd like to do just for the purpose of testing that theory. Except I need about a dozen people with the right temperament to help me out. I want to infiltrate a popular progressive forum. But not to cause drama or to create arguments or anything on their boards. I dont' want to go looking for an argument or to have some kind of intellectuakl contest. I want to be just agreeable with them enough and to ask questions to where they are led to ask questions correctly themselves and to approach any given issues being discussed in the correct way. Just until the light upstairs dings. You know? But that's just a very small little experiment. Just a social experiment.

 

[LibertyEagle]

My experience is that YOU are the (mod edit).

There is absolutely no reasonable way to discuss Trump- Trump supporters will not allow "discussion"; we must all conform to his greatness or we are called SJWs, leftist, communists, Hillary lovers, etc.

We are happy to discuss facts. Lies, not so much.

 

[LibertyRevolution]

Wake me up when they get Michael Badnarik to run again, until then I am returning to my apathy.