The Revolution needs you to vote for Obama

[CasualApathy]

Okay, let me direct your attention to this clip, jump to 5:40 and listen to what Ron Paul thinks about voting for the lesser of 2 evils:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1X_u86WkqI

This should end the debate for all of us who support liberty.

I will quote it for the lazy people:

Glenn Beck: "What do you think about the idea that, ummm.. You gotta vote for the lesser of two evils - no matter what side it is - you gotta vote for the lesser of two evils because half a loaf of bread is better then no bread?"

Ron Paul: "I think it's one of the dumbest ideas around *chuckles* I think that that is a real vasted vote. Because the two parties have blended together and there is not any difference, nothing ever really changes, you elect a conservative republican and the deficits explode, and you elect a democrat to change foren policy and they make the foreign policy worse. So, I think if you really want your vote to be counted, you have to take a principled stand and vote for - if your left-leaning vote for one of the alternative candidates who are left-leaning. If not - if you tend to be libertarian, vote libertarian or for the constitutional party."

 

[aravoth]

This isn't about Obama being good. Read the thread before you post.

 

[DAFTEK]

I never felt this was a pro-Obama forum, and I doubt the many detractors who are always on my case would agree with you. You were always a Republican, and if Palin decided your vote for you, above even Barr, then McTroll your way over to http://www.johnmccain.com/ make a big fat donation, and wallow in the smell of your own brainfart, because you sir, are a moron.

Not as much a moron as you dipshit....

You're distracting the facts by showing others the way when you cant even find the closet you came out of... Here is the door for you... www.barackobamaforum.net

 

[DAFTEK]

It's spelled loser.

Ohh crap, another typo, wooohoooo you win smartass of the year...

 

[phree]

explain my hypocrisy. Hopefully you can do a better job at that then you did trying to explain your 'tactic'

Your 'logic' is simply naive, at best. As it stands, this thread needs to be locked because you are giving people the wrong idea. This forum has always been an advocate for voting with your conscience and sticking to your principles. If you cant respect that, then I believe you are more a part of the problem than even you realize.

No one that reads these words should even be contemplating what youre suggesting. It goes against everything we've been working towards, it undermines our integrity, and it is a huge slap in the face insult that one of our own would even consider this a realistic 'tactic'. Whats the point of our entire movement if at the moment of truth, you decide that its too tough to fight and throw in the towel, (and YES that is exactly what you are doing by suggesting this, i dont care how you try to justify it.)

You're right, hypocrisy is the wrong word. Ignorant is the right one.

Don't forget your torches and pitchforks!

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Everyone stop feeding the obama troll

 

[phree]

Okay, let me direct your attention to this clip, jump to 5:40 and listen to what Ron Paul thinks about voting for the lesser of 2 evils:

Who the hell is suggesting voting for the lesser of two evils!

You have completely missed the point of this concept.

 

[DAFTEK]

Everyone stop feeding the obama troll

It's ok, he ignored most of the users anyway

 

[-lotus-]

You're right, hypocrisy is the wrong word. Ignorant is the right one.

Don't forget your torches and pitchforks!

How is it ignorant to stick to your principles? What service are you doing to this movement by telling us that the only way to get anything done is to let everything go to total shit first. I still fail to see your 'logic' in that madness.

I have no interest in proving to the Obama crowd that their guy is full of shit by letting him run this country into the ground. Thats what we are all here trying to PREVENT! You dont seem to able to grasp this concept.

If Im ignorant in sticking to my principles then you are arrogant for thinking you can change them with these harebrained ideas.

 

[-lotus-]

Who the hell is suggesting voting for the lesser of two evils!

You are.

Look at the title of YOUR thread.

 

[CasualApathy]

You are.

Look at the title of YOUR thread.

Haha, good one. Total ownage

 

[-lotus-]

Haha, good one. Total ownage

Its not hard with this guy, sadly.

 

[anaconda]

At this point, the best thing is to hope one of the third parties like Bob Barr gets 5% or even more because what that does is it will force the winner (whoever he is) to go after those votes in the next election.

Thank you, merrimac. Gosh this is difficult for some people to understand. They panic and go for the "lesser of two evils" vote. The two parties will indeed want that 5% next time. And the 12% the next time. And the 19% the next. And the 25% the next. Etc. Theoretically, I don't know that we would ever have to assimilate to the Republican Party. We should hold out each election for an endorsement by our leader (RP for now), or allow that leader to NOT endorse, and then both parties lose all of those votes. Can you imagine how they will be pandering to us? WITHOUT having to actually take over the party leadership? Whaddya' think?

 

[phree]

phree... if you keep ignoring people who disagree, you'll find yourself in a dark hole, alone, and cold. Did you expect people on the RONPAULFORUMS to like your idea about voting for a fucking communist because you're afraid? Hell, if you didn't ignore ghemenger, you shouldn't ignore anyone. lol

I'm not ignoring people because they disagree, I'm ignoring immature people who add nothing but noise to the discussion.

I did not expect people to instantly embrace the idea, but I hoped people would at least consider it with open minds.

I'm not afraid, I'm concerned and involved.

 

[DAFTEK]

Those considering Obama MUST SEE THIS!
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Larry Sinclair has done a decent job of backing up his claims.
Here is a video of his press conference: http://larrysinclair.org/press.html
And here is the main website: http://larrysinclair.org
Remember that a guy before Mr. Sinclair that accused Obama of the same thing is now DEAD.

1. Obama has very close links to the convicted Weathermen terrorist bombers Bill Ayres and Bernardine Dohrn. He shared board memberships with Ayres on the Woods Fund and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. This and most of the following scandals are detailed in Tarpley's "Obama - The Postmodern Coup: Making of a Manchurian Candidate," released in June.
3 Obama is very close to the racist demagogues Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Otis Moss III, Hopkins, Meeks, and Pfleger.
4 Obama has been accused in Federal Court of using crack cocaine by Larry Sinclair, along with gay sex. The Obama camp retaliated by arresting Sinclair in an enemies list operation by Beau Biden, son of veep candidate Joe Biden.
5. The mysterious deaths of black gays in and around Wright's Church: Donald Young, Nate Spencer, Larry Bland could be linked to Obama.
6. Obama's relations to Chechen Terrorism through Ilyas Achmadov.
7. The mysterious deaths of key Clinton delegates and floor leaders just before the convention: Bill Gwatney and Tubbs Jones.
8. The alleged Michelle Obama Hate Whitey tape.

PLEASE SEND THIS TO ALL THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW, EVEN THE PRO OBAMA ONES!!

 

[phree]

keep this up and you'll never make any...

You can't be serious.

 

[phree]

Okay, let me direct your attention to this clip, jump to 5:40 and listen to what Ron Paul thinks about voting for the lesser of 2 evils:

This concept has nothing to do with the lesser of two evils concept. If anything I think Obama is worse.

 

[-lotus-]

I'm not ignoring people because they disagree, I'm ignoring immature people who add nothing but noise to the discussion.

I did not expect people to instantly embrace the idea, but I hoped people would at least consider it with open minds.

I'm not afraid, I'm concerned and involved.

Im not sure that being involved in the Ron Paul movement entails getting people to vote for Obama. If youve already made up your mind (and it seems like you have, judging by how hard youre defending your stance) and are going to vote Obama, then anything anyone says contrary to your idea is just going to be noise in your discussion.

You shouldnt have expected us to embrace this idea, because its stupid and founded in misguided and naive intentions. As for open minds......We're Ron Paul supporters. Thats about as open minded as it gets, my friend.

I on the other hand, AM afraid. Im afraid that your concern and involvment is going to get the wrong person elected.

 

[phree]

Who the hell is suggesting voting for the lesser of two evils!

You are.

Look at the title of YOUR thread.

So you think Obama is the lesser evil? I don't. Clear your head out. You're obviously not getting it.

 

[phree]

Haha, good one. Total ownage

You too, are missing the point. I never said Obama was the lesser evil. If you can't understand the concept you shouldn't be posting about it.