The issue here is that every poster in this topic has discussed Trump in depth at one point or another on this site and it honestly gets pretty tiring. So while he probably was using hyperbole, it's no excuse to be a scrub.
Your explanation still isn't up to snuff. Trump has said so many ridiculous things, my favorite still being Mexico building a border fence, and he seems to mean it. How? I want to hear a game plan instead of this unicorns and fairy dust crap.
I'm not an expert on Trump's history in business, but he wasn't always as rich as he is now. Over his long career before the Trump name was an empire, I'm sure he made plenty of deals with lobbyists and the Government to get where he is now and money has a long, long memory. Trump is also a huge fan of eminent domain, no doubt he's wheeled and dealed with State and Local Governments to grab land over time and has made plenty of Crony friends in Government. Even if he was the one buying everyone, that's an even worse reason to vote for him. That makes him worse than the people he bought to me. He sees nothing wrong with collusion between the Corporate World and our Government, and that's the entire reason we're in the mess we're in today.
He changes rhetoric constantly because he's a populist with no real believes. He says whatever will get him votes. And he is friendly to the Clintons. It's a race; the GOP candidates have been ripping into each other when we know half of them are buddy buddy behind closed doors. It's all business right now, they're all part of the same team. That's why Trump has to trash talk Hillary, he's running for the GOP. Doesn't mean he believes a single thing he says though.
I get what you're trying to say. Trump isn't the worst out of the crop and you provided your reasons. I can see where you're coming from. But I'm tired of seeing people settle for "not the worst". We've been doing that for too long already. And I'm sure we agree on plenty, you're on this site and you're a pretty reasonable guy so far, homie.
I agree with every single thing you said.
But to make mine short and sweet.
I think that if Bernie Sanders or Ted Cruz were to be elected, the Liberty movement would die, as it would be attached to their name in the eyes of the public.
If Marco, Kaisich, Bush, or Clinton wins...we have the exact same ole same ole.
But if Trump wins...as terrible as he is (see Trump Opposition thread)...it allows us an opening in 2020.
The ends of his policy (take immigration as example) is pretty decent. But the means are terrible (as you said).
So, we could have a president attempting to do radical new things....just in the wrong way.
That allows someone like Paul to contrast our method with his...allows the ends (like criticizing interventionism) to not be criticized because they will be similar to Trumps militaristic non-interventionism. It allows for a debate.
The goal, frankly, is to trick idiots into voting for an intelligent candidate. I think Trump may be that Trojan Horse.
Again, don't vote for him....but with people like Bill Kristol saying they will vote for Clinton over him, you better believe he would be an establishment wrecking ball...and and great target for Rand to smack from the Senate.
I'm planning for 2020, not for 2016.
