The reason that one should make a conscious effort not to shop at walmart

[dannno]

What does that even mean?

It means checkout the Santa Claus thread and tell me asimplegirl is a real person and not a person trying to establish themselves on a new messageboard with an ulterior motive.

You know WalMart pays people to scan internet messageboards for negative topics on WalMart just so they can signup and tell everybody about their great experiences with WalMart.

 

[Pepsi]

One time I was at Wal Mart, and no one was there working the check out lines. Granted it was at night, but no one there.

 

[dannno]

One time I was at Wal Mart, and no one was there working the check out lines. Granted it was at night, but no one there.

Well the lights in WalMart and other retailers operate on a frequency, which means the lights are on half of the time and off half of the time.

It always freaks me out that you can only see half the stuff going on inside those stores.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

It means checkout the Santa Claus thread and tell me asimplegirl is a real person and not a person trying to establish themselves on a new messageboard with an ulterior motive.

You know WalMart pays people to scan internet messageboards for negative topics on WalMart just so they can signup and tell everybody about their great experiences with WalMart.

Another conspiracy!

 

[danberkeley]

Well the lights in WalMart and other retailers operate on a frequency, which means the lights are on half of the time and off half of the time.

It always freaks me out that you can only see half the stuff going on inside those stores.

Awsome!

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

While you probably discuss politics while fishing, I discuss fishing while politickin

Your management speak aside, do you propose that the state force Wal-Mart to pay its employees more, only sell American-made products, and sell only to customers that do not steal from it?

The endeavor of survival is a business of the people, not tyranny. Tyranny does not need business or Walmart because it doesn't need money. One doesn't need money when one has the power to counterfeit it.
How is this management-speak?

 

[danberkeley]

The endeavor of survival is a business of the people, not tyranny. Tyranny does not need business or Walmart because it doesn't need money. One doesn't need money when one has the power to counterfeit it.
How is this management-speak?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_speak
http://www.joke-archives.com/workplace/managementspeak.html

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_speak
http://www.joke-archives.com/workplace/managementspeak.html

But the endeavor of survival was at one time the illegal business of the people. And, yes, the king and the pope did own all the land while the first born and the second born from each family were typically employed by each respectively while the rest of the children were left to tend to the illegal business of survival. And, yes indeed, this illegal business got penalized with a tax.
Please translate this business-speak in normal prose.

 

[Mini-Me]

Another conspiracy!

Although I think it's unfair and premature to accuse asimplegirl of being a shill, it would be extraordinarily silly to question dannno's statement about Wal-Mart hiring people to protect their rep on the Internet. It's not a "conspiracy theory" so much as it is common sense. After all, big companies have entire departments devoted to managing public relations. If you were running the PR department of Wal-Mart, a multi-hundred-billion dollar international business with almost unrivaled name recognition, would you NOT consider it a good idea to hire a few Internet warriors? It's only a "conspiracy" in the sense that people act deliberately and with a purpose. Shills and astroturfers certainly exist, and to doubt this would be pure foolishness.

 

[asimplegirl]

Oh, I agree that they could do MUCH better with their employees, and they could and should stop allowing assembly and such from happening in other countries, but so should other companies. We only buy American made products... that is probably the hardest thing I have ever done...we just don't seem to sell much American stuff here.

It means checkout the Santa Claus thread and tell me asimplegirl is a real person and not a person trying to establish themselves on a new messageboard with an ulterior motive.

A real person?lol

Yes, I am new here, but not so new that I show up after this thread was created... and again, I got FIRED from WalMart like 6 years ago, I was a college student...it was an easy enough job, paid better than anywhere else. The whole point I was making is we should choose which priorities are more important to us- that is all.

And what good will the Santa Clause thread do? What exactly does Santa have to do WalMart? I actually don;t even shop at WalMart anymore- haven't since I started needing to go outside of our town during the week for something unrelated, and WalMart was not the best option anymore.

I actually abhor spending a ton, and that is why I don't LIKE WalMart.

 

[AutoDas]

Don't worry asimplegirl, everyone here is just a figment of dannno's imagination.

 

[asimplegirl]

good- i was beginning to question my existence.

 

[noxagol]

I work at wal-mart and I get paid just fine.

I am a cart pusher. I make 9.25 an hour. I have worked for wal-mart for 3 years now. I get 80 hours paid vacation, 20 hours personal time, 40 hours sick time. I have HSA insurance, where I get up to 900 dollars from walmart through the year (I've had it for one year and I already have 2500 saved up in it). I got 1200$ in bonuses from walmart. I have the lowest paying job in the entire company.

I fail to see how walmart pays its people so little.

 

[Kludge]

I work at wal-mart and I get paid just fine.

Wait... Before we go back to serious discussion... Do they make you do jumping jacks and cheer for Walmart as they showed in a news clip I was watching last year?

 

[angelatc]

Heh, ironically minimum wage isn't enough for most people who actually need a salary, so you found a kid who didn't need money to work for you..that was pretty lucky

(not that raising minimum wage would ever help the situation..obviously we shouldn't have it, or a Fed, or income taxes, etc)

Minimum wage isn't supposed to be enough for people that actually need a living wage. Minimum serves no real purpose other than to make liberals feel good, and to drive small businesses out of business.

I do admit we were lucky to have him - he was a very good worker. And he just stopped in and filled out an application. It wasn't like his father helped him even get a job.

 

[angelatc]

I'm pretty sure based on what I've read about WalMart and what you have told about their business model that they could have been successful without all child slave labor in China.. without all of the excessive corporate subsidies..without pushing low-wage workers into welfare and medicare.

They had a successful business model and that's great. Had they done a handful of immoral things, they would be like any other store. The problem is they went overboard. Had they really limited their immoral practices, I would have a lot of respect for them. Their prices wouldn't be as low, but they would still be a big market player.

Rolls eyes. Child labor is a natural part of the business cycle. When the people in China earn enough money, child labor will begin to cease. And after that, it will become illegal.

I don't like corporate subsidies, but a business who didn't accept them couldn't compete. It is the government who is to blame for handing them out.

Same thing with "pushing" workers onto welfare. It isn't the responsibility of your employer to provide for your life. And if the state programs are available, it is silly not to encourage people to utilize them.

The worst thing that happened to the free market health care system was employer paid insurance. If more companies refused to pay for insurance as a benefit, the costs and prices would come down.

 

[angelatc]

Wait... Before we go back to serious discussion... Do they make you do jumping jacks and cheer for Walmart as they showed in a news clip I was watching last year?

You still remember it? Or did you tape it, and now you watch it over and over.

Or is it a PPV thing?

I am actually considering getting a part time job at either Meijer's or Wal-Mart. I don't really care how much money I start out at because I know I can earn as much as I choose to, and move up as far as I want, if I apply myself.

But I just want to work somewhere close to home, and both of those places are being built right up the road from me.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

I work at wal-mart and I get paid just fine.

I am a cart pusher. I make 9.25 an hour. I have worked for wal-mart for 3 years now. I get 80 hours paid vacation, 20 hours personal time, 40 hours sick time. I have HSA insurance, where I get up to 900 dollars from walmart through the year (I've had it for one year and I already have 2500 saved up in it). I got 1200$ in bonuses from walmart. I have the lowest paying job in the entire company.

I fail to see how walmart pays its people so little.

Great. I have some questions for you then.
Is a cart pusher the person who collects and pushes the carts back into the store?
Where is your store located?
Is your wage typical nationally? Are you working in a state that is pro-labor union? I mean, Walmart certainly bases its pay on each region depending on the economy where it is located because it has stores worldwide.
In an open shop state which is typically anti-labor union, contracting out labor is a common practice. The contracting out of labor allows certain kinds of jobs to be "whored" out thus keeping their wage potential low.
As the United States continues to convince the majority to buy into an empty box, expect more and more people to have to settle for minimum wage jobs. I'm not saying this is bad.
Of course, we can trust that Walmart will keep paying their employees as well as they do even after they run all the other stores in the nation out of business and rid it of all its high paying jobs.

 

[asimplegirl]

Well, when I worked at WalMart in college, I worked at the PIneville, Louisiana store, and my starting pay as an untrained cashier who had never held a job before was 7.00 an hour, with all the perks listed above...

Okay, sorry for this, but stepson is driving me nuts to type something here, so just pretend it does not exist:

ilovedaddyandmama*****isascientist

Funny, huh? I had to spell scientist for him.

 

[Mini-Me]

I don't like corporate subsidies, but a business who didn't accept them couldn't compete. It is the government who is to blame for handing them out.

This is only half true, though. It's true that as long as the government has the power to give these subsidies, they will exist, and those who take advantage of them will always have an unfair advantage (practically forcing others to take advantage as well). However, you're glossing over two things:

1. Corporate welfare is not available to all businesses, just to the big ones with enough political clout. So yes, companies like Target are just as guilty here as Wal-Mart...but it's not like mom and pop shops have the option of handouts like megacorps do, anyway.
2. Large corporations and the people behind them are in no way blameless for the existence of corporate welfare, either! While a government with power over the markets inevitably enables corporate welfare and it is futile to attack the problem without gutting government, it still only really exists because corporate lobbyists deliberately subverted the purpose of government by buying the laws in the first place. Companies like Wal-Mart are not the ones who are taking advantage of these subsidies because other companies are, and they therefore have to. Companies like Wal-Mart are the ones who bought the politicians in the first place.