The real threat to Lindsey Graham and company is simply Iran remaining a sovereign nation

[Chomsky]

http://milwaukeestory.com/index.php...reat-of-iran-remaining-a-soverign-nation-379/

"The 20 percent enriched uranium is the closest Iran has come to weapons grade uranium and it is still not any where near the 90% enriched uranium needed for a nuclear weapon."

"...an Iranian nuclear program does not worry Israel or Pentagon officials as a first strike weapon, but rather as a deterrent against regime change in Iran, carried out by Israel and the US."

"So the real crime that Iran is committing is not directly threatening the US or Israel but rather acting as a soverign country and being the sole beneficiaries of their natural resources. They have chosen not to buddy up to the US and the West as Saudia Arabia or the UAE have in the last several decades to the detriment of their populations but to the benefit of their elite and the US."

http://milwaukeestory.com/index.php...reat-of-iran-remaining-a-soverign-nation-379/

 

[goldpants]

http://milwaukeestory.com/index.php...reat-of-iran-remaining-a-soverign-nation-379/

"The 20 percent enriched uranium is the closest Iran has come to weapons grade uranium and it is still not any where near the 90% enriched uranium needed for a nuclear weapon."

"...an Iranian nuclear program does not worry Israel or Pentagon officials as a first strike weapon, but rather as a deterrent against regime change in Iran, carried out by Israel and the US."

"So the real crime that Iran is committing is not directly threatening the US or Israel but rather acting as a soverign country and being the sole beneficiaries of their natural resources. They have chosen not to buddy up to the US and the West as Saudia Arabia or the UAE have in the last several decades to the detriment of their populations but to the benefit of their elite and the US."

http://milwaukeestory.com/index.php...reat-of-iran-remaining-a-soverign-nation-379/

Hello truth...America has been ignoring you too long

 

[Forty Twice]

http://milwaukeestory.com/index.php...reat-of-iran-remaining-a-soverign-nation-379/

"The 20 percent enriched uranium is the closest Iran has come to weapons grade uranium and it is still not any where near the 90% enriched uranium needed for a nuclear weapon."

"...an Iranian nuclear program does not worry Israel or Pentagon officials as a first strike weapon, but rather as a deterrent against regime change in Iran, carried out by Israel and the US."

"So the real crime that Iran is committing is not directly threatening the US or Israel but rather acting as a soverign country and being the sole beneficiaries of their natural resources. They have chosen not to buddy up to the US and the West as Saudia Arabia or the UAE have in the last several decades to the detriment of their populations but to the benefit of their elite and the US."

http://milwaukeestory.com/index.php...reat-of-iran-remaining-a-soverign-nation-379/

Bingo!

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Yup, and Paul should have more boldly brought this up at the debates or on the campaign trail. Responding to the three warhawk amigo's emotional belligerence about Iran, with a "you've been lied to!" counter-emotional narrative about the international order wanting to rip off its sovereignty and natural resources. I think it was a mistake for Paul to lead with "I don't want Iran to have nukes" message, as that concedes the framework justifying an interventionist approach, the very thing he's supposed to be against. So of course when he doesn't follow-up the "don't want" comment with a "we've got to stop them" use of force strategy, just "talking it out" sounds like feckless appeasement. Paul has to not give ground to validating the interventionist narrative at nearly every point, else his case for nonintervention falls on deaf ears.

 

[jay_dub]

The big lie is that we are protecting people in the ME, when we are really protecting our interest in having the dollar remain the currency of OPEC, which is the reason we still have the world's reserve currency. The status of reserve currency has allowed us to go as much n debt as we have without total economic collapse to this point. In actuality, we are starting wars so we can continue to spend money we don't have.

Here's a couple of links to threads I started on another forum on this subject. Hope it's not against TOS here. There's lots of links in those threads that will provide good info on what our foreign policy is really about these days.

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/218158-us-engaging-petrodollar-warfare.html

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/216660-truth-propaganda-libya.html

BTW, I'm 'Woogs' on that forum, but my avatar is the same as here.

 

[Chomsky]

Yup, and Paul should have more boldly brought this up at the debates or on the campaign trail. Responding to the three warhawk amigo's emotional belligerence about Iran, with a "you've been lied to!" counter-emotional narrative about the international order wanting to rip off its sovereignty and natural resources. I think it was a mistake for Paul to lead with "I don't want Iran to have nukes" message, as that concedes the framework justifying an interventionist approach, the very thing he's supposed to be against. So of course when he doesn't follow-up the "don't want" comment with a "we've got to stop them" use of force strategy, just "talking it out" sounds like feckless appeasement. Paul has to not give ground to validating the interventionist narrative at nearly every point, else his case for nonintervention falls on deaf ears.

I agree, I have started to wince when he uses the "russia had hundreds of nukes and we worked it out." That is not the line of argument that is going to work. I like the "you've been lied to" line of argument. Ha.