The R[evol]lution's Myers-Briggs Personalility Type

[Philhelm]

+1, but I had to take one of these for a class I was forced against my will to take, and I got an ENTJ. As AF has already pointed out, Napoleon was also an ENTJ. I suppose that means I need to go start an empire. It would be a conservative libertarian empire, ruled by a single autocrat, me, and my titles would be Emperor, King, Grand Prince, Grand Duke, Caesar, Augustus, Basileus, Sultan, Emir, Khan, Pharoah, Padishah, and Tsar.* LOL

I can't think of any more titles off the top of my head that refer to the head of state, so this list is not exhaustive.

It will really get confusing when you find yourself as a king of my empire, and myself as a minor noble in your duchy. But, them's the breaks.

 

[Anti Federalist]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=114134

Awesome graph work.

Would explain why your "average" RP type person feels adrift in sea of indifferent, ignorant apathy.

The NTs and NFs that dominate here, are just the opposite in the masses of asses.

 

[Anti Federalist]

A rare time I would disagree,,
I think it takes the skills and abilities of all types to make any kind of team to work. To make a society function.

What's that sayin'
"It takes all kinds,,,"

I think what Pericles was saying, and what I agree with completely, is the silly idea that a human being's complex personality can be distilled down into a simple metric based on the results of an ambiguous ten minute true/false, yes/no test, written by a bunch of head shrinking eggheads.

 

[Pericles]

I think what Pericles was saying, and what I agree with completely, is the silly idea that a human being's complex personality can be distilled down into a simple metric based on the results of an ambiguous ten minute true/false, yes/no test, written by a bunch of head shrinking eggheads.

Bingo. When faced with a situation, I have a wide variety of possible actions, these tests artificially limit choice in order to force a classification. Or, as we say in Philosophy - we have a tautology - there is no way to demonstrate there are more than 16 personality types, if we accept the methodology of the test - there is no way not the be fit into one of the personality types.

Which if you think about it is the justification for such tests - they are valid because they can put you into a pigeon hole.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I'm the fifth I N F J so far...

I was an ENTP in College. But I agree with everyone that the letters change after you start working. I'm personally very different outside of work than I am in work, so maybe I should be taking the test twice, and answering based on how I am at work and how I am at home.

There is no "this is how I am at work, this is how I am at home". Work and school attempt to force you to be a J. You can certainly take on J-like habits at work, and still be a P. With Myers-Briggs, you have to look at how you really are, how you really behave most of the time, not how you would like to behave, or how you think you should behave.

Js are neat freaks. Their desks and homes will almost always be tidy and organized. Ps will probably have some mess around their desk or bedroom.

The indicator test is just an "indicator". It is often wrong. To find your true type, you need to narrow it down to a few, and read up on them. It also helps to read about each of the letters, and what they actually mean. It will eventually become very clear as to what type you are.

Another note: School, work, and society push you towards being "J". That leads to a lot of false "J"s based on that's how people think they should be, not what they truly are.

 

[KramerDSP]

Js are neat freaks. Their desks and homes will almost always be tidy and organized. Ps will probably have some mess around their desk or bedroom.

Then there's no way I'm a J. I like orderliness, but every few days after clutter starts emerging.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Bingo. When faced with a situation, I have a wide variety of possible actions, these tests artificially limit choice in order to force a classification. Or, as we say in Philosophy - we have a tautology - there is no way to demonstrate there are more than 16 personality types, if we accept the methodology of the test - there is no way not the be fit into one of the personality types.

Which if you think about it is the justification for such tests - they are valid because they can put you into a pigeon hole.

I suffered through one of these fool things years ago and came to the same conclusion.

In this environment they are a fun distraction, like looking at horoscopes.

They are a blunt and dangerous weapon in the hands of HROs, shrinks, "regulators", educators or other bureaucratic ticks and leeches.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I'm the personality type that thinks personality tests are a load of BS.

Yep, the tests are not accurate.

The Myers-Briggs types are actually well developed. You are free to put yourself into type of them you want. They are just categories, like animal, vegetable or mineral. Pick the one you fit in.

 

[nate895]

.In this environment they are a fun distraction, like looking at horoscopes.

If you sit through college classes with them, then you would notice that they use it in the same way people use horoscopes. It's just superstition couched as "science."

 

[Anti Federalist]

If you sit through college classes with them, then you would notice that they use it in the same way people use horoscopes. It's just superstition couched as "science."

Statements like that make me glad I got out of the "education" racket at 16.

 

[freedoms-light]

INFP
Princess Diana, Richard Gere, Audrey Hephurn, Albert Schweiter, George Orwell, Karen Armstrong, Aldous Huxley, Mia Farrow, and Isabel Meyers

Interesting.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

INFP
Princess Diana, Richard Gere, Audrey Hephurn, Albert Schweiter, George Orwell, Karen Armstrong, Aldous Huxley, Mia Farrow, and Isabel Meyers

Interesting.

same as me

 

[FreedomRings]

ENTP here, but it took me more than taking a test to figure it all out. I read 5 or 6 books on the subject and by far the best is David Keirsey's "Please Understand Me II".

BTW, I'm 98% sure that Ron Paul is an ENTP.

 

[BuddyRey]

ENTP here, but it took me more than taking a test to figure it all out. I read 5 or 6 books on the subject and by far the best is David Keirsey's "Please Understand Me II".

BTW, I'm 98% sure that Ron Paul is an ENTP.

I'll definitely check out that book then...I think the MBTI is fascinating. Thanks for the heads-up!

Ron Paul definitely puts off an EN_P vibe to me too! Just out of curiosity, how would an ENTP differ in behavior or personality from an ENFP, like say...moi?

 

[bricklayer]

Your Type is
INTP
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
67 75 1 22

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Then there's no way I'm a J. I like orderliness, but every few days after clutter starts emerging.

Ps do things in spurts of energy. They will clean, but like you said, it may get messy in between. The "in between time" may be one week or one year.

Js tend to keep it neat always. More routine driven.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Ps do things in spurts of energy. They will clean, but like you said, it may get messy in between. The "in between time" may be one week or one year.

Js tend to keep it neat always. More routine driven.

I'm the former

INFP

 

[Brian4Liberty]

If you sit through college classes with them, then you would notice that they use it in the same way people use horoscopes. It's just superstition couched as "science."

They may get used a little like horoscopes, but it is far more scientific. MBTI is not used to foresee the future or any nonsense like that. Temperament types are categories based on observation. There is no "voodoo" or superstition involved. Simply categories.

Four basic temperament types have been around forever:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Temperaments

Temperament theory has its roots in the ancient four humors theory. It may have origins in ancient Egypt[1] or Mesopotamia,[2] but it was the Greek physician Hippocrates (460-370 BC) who systemized and developed it into a medical theory.

The theories about causes of these types were wrong, but the observations of the types were accurate.

Carl Jung further developed the four types using a two component binary system. (Thinking vs. Feeling and Sensing vs. Intuition). People studying types have always wanted to further break down the four into sub-groups, and the Myers-Briggs allowed a break-down into 16 types. (With the original four types still intact in the overall type). For instance, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ, ENTP are all the NT type.

The important contribution of Myers and Briggs was the P/J dichotomy, which turned out to be very important in understanding work styles.

Fundamental to the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator is the theory of psychological type as originally developed by Carl Jung. Jung proposed the existence of two dichotomous pairs of cognitive functions:

* The "rational" (judging) functions: thinking and feeling
* The "irrational" (perceiving) functions: sensing and intuition

Jung went on to suggest that these functions are expressed in either an introverted or extraverted form. From Jung's original concepts, Briggs and Myers developed their own theory of psychological type, described below, on which the MBTI is based.

The Myers-Briggs typology model regards personality type as similar to left or right handedness: individuals are either born with, or develop, certain preferred ways of thinking and acting. The MBTI sorts some of these psychological differences into four opposite pairs, or dichotomies, with a resulting 16 possible psychological types. None of these types are "better" or "worse"; however, Briggs and Myers theorized that individuals naturally prefer one overall combination of type differences. In the same way that writing with the left hand is hard work for a right-hander, so people tend to find using their opposite psychological preferences more difficult, even if they can become more proficient (and therefore behaviorally flexible) with practice and development.

The 16 types are typically referred to by an abbreviation of four letters—the initial letters of each of their four type preferences (except in the case of iNtuition, which uses the abbreviation N to distinguish it from Introversion).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator

P.s. The Enneagram is somewhat similar to the MBTI in that it has a large number of categories, but they are less well defined. It is more related to Horoscopes, and ascribes a lot of nonsense theories as to the "why" of your type.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

They are a blunt and dangerous weapon in the hands of HROs, shrinks, "regulators", educators or other bureaucratic ticks and leeches.

You are correct there! I have seen schoolyard style bullying (by management types) based on Myers-Briggs or Enneagram in the workplace. Put a bunch of people (managers) together, tell them they are all "different" than the rest of the peons, and they will almost instantly form a totalitarian, abusive (superior in their own minds) class. The abuse will often start with the unqualified idiot doing the teaching.

Putting people into categories has benefits for understanding, but it is also easily abused. Just like those experiments where they put different color scarves on kids and tell them one is superior, and they turn into little monsters.

Funny thing bout the Myers-Briggs is that every type tends to think their type is best. After all, it's in full agreement with them. Some types tend to be management though, so they have the power to abuse the knowledge more than other types.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

ENTP here, but it took me more than taking a test to figure it all out. I read 5 or 6 books on the subject and by far the best is David Keirsey's "Please Understand Me II".

BTW, I'm 98% sure that Ron Paul is an ENTP.

I agree, that's a good book.

I would guess Ron is an I, not an E.

It's not an affliction! One of the dangers of the MBTI is that people will assign negative attributes to things, especially the I/E portion. All "I"s are not hermits who rarely come out into the light.

Rod Blagojevich is probably an "E", as are the majority of politicians.

People tend to ascribe intelligence to "E"s based purely on their ease with verbal communication. It couldn't be further from the truth. The I/E has nothing to do with intelligence.