The polls are wrong crowd what say you now?

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After pleading with many of you that the polls are surprising more accurate than you think, can we now finally put to bed the notion that the polls are always wrong about our candidates?

Seriously, slap yourselves.
 
After pleading with many of you that the polls are surprising more accurate than you think, can we now finally put to bed the notion that the polls are always wrong about our candidates?

Seriously, slap yourselves.
moron, if he polls had been saying Rand was leading for the last year he would be leading.....people like you are brain dead
 
After pleading with many of you that the polls are surprising more accurate than you think, can we now finally put to bed the notion that the polls are always wrong about our candidates?

Seriously, slap yourselves.

Pretty bad how they did in Iowa with Rubio kicking Tromped down to third in so many large counties.

Self-fulfilling propaganda machine that can't even be averaged correctly and should never be used to decide who gets on stage at debates.
 
The polls were wrong. All post-debate polling (including the last day of the DMR "Gold Standard) showed Rand getting a bounce.
 
Yeah, I'm not sure where you're going with this... The only part of the polls that seemed to be accurate was that a majority of people hadn't made up their minds yet.

The media uses polls to create public opinion; not to measure it.
 
Yep, if the polls had been correct, Rand would have won Iowa.

So many folks vote the way they do, because they want to vote for a winner. They see a poll and vote for the perceived front runner.

The polls are used to lead voters in the direction the pollsters want them to vote.
 
Yep, if the polls had been correct, Rand would have won Iowa.

So many folks vote the way they do, because they want to vote for a winner. They see a poll and vote for the perceived front runner.

The polls are used to lead voters in the direction the pollsters want them to vote.

We don't know if he would have won Iowa outright, but he would have gotten far more votes if the perception was more accurate.
 
If anything, we can blame Rand's poor results on people like the OP who couldn't bother to take the time to see that the polls were being manipulated and not helping us to hold the media and the polling companies to a higher standard.

Rand and Ron Paul were both making the same points about the polls that people here were. Why are you blaming an internet forum instead of Rand and Ron Paul??
 
Sometimes you saying something often and loud enough makes it come true. I think Trump entering into the race put a big tent to dent to his numbers, add to it the incessant reporting on Trump in the media and add again the way the media ignored him. I have to say that I have never seen a candidate who has had so many graphic errors happen to him when poll numbers were being reported.
 
After pleading with many of you that the polls are surprising more accurate than you think, can we now finally put to bed the notion that the polls are always wrong about our candidates?

Seriously, slap yourselves.

They've already rationalized their idiocy by saying the fake polls became a self fulfilling prophecy. There is no getting through to them. Impossible to win an argument with a moron who believes everything is a conspiracy.
 

I wonder, do good product marketing influence the consumers?

They've already rationalized their idiocy by saying that good marketing campaigns became a self fulfilling prophecy. There is no getting through to them. Impossible to win an argument with a moron who believes that manipulated polls to voters is the equivalent of a good marketing strategy to consumers.

But the serious question is "to what extent do these polls" and media promotion influence the average voter? Cos if you believe the answer is none, then you are the moron.
 
They've already rationalized their idiocy by saying the fake polls became a self fulfilling prophecy. There is no getting through to them. Impossible to win an argument with a moron who believes everything is a conspiracy.

Impossible to win an argument about polling data with a low IQ imbecile who doesn't understand basic statistics and math.

Do you know what demographics are? Do you know how you can shift a candidates demographics to show more or less support than they actually have if they have more or less support in certain demographic categories? Did you not look into the fact that was happening? Are you willing to admit that both Ron and Rand said that this was occurring, and that we actually had the numbers to back it up?

Do you have the intellectual wherewithal to make an actual argument, or are you going to continue to spew bullcrap just like everybody else who has taken your position?
 
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