heavenlyboy34
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I have family that has fought for the flag. A couple maimed, one dead, and one with demons he can't come to terms with. I love this country. It very well could be a lot worse. The problem is that we have been monetarily hijacked. The wars aren't for defense. Our actions are usually despicable. That is not what the flag stands for to me. I am as proud to be an American. (as I can be, lately) The shit that the tptb do is unexcusable. I'll pledge to the flag. In my mind I'm pledging to the Constitution, the Rule of Law, the things America is supposed to stand for. I am not disillusioned by a false sense of our actions always being justified or being in the interest of the people. Monopolies and schemes of various super-rich men does not end my love for what this country was founded on.
No, your family (and mine) fought for the government that flag represents. No one alive has fought for the country in the literal (or what most here consider moral) sense. You are perfectly free to imagine that flag represents the constitution, but the fact is it doesn't. It's very much post-republic in nature. The flags I posted above are as close to symbols of the Constitution as it gets.
ETA: It's incorrect to say "our" actions were wrong-they were wrong actions, but wrong actions of the regime and its cronies and its hired killers (soldiers)-not "us".
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