The one thing I've found after making calls...

[Monotaur]

Guys,

My wife and I have been making calls from PfH into early states and also locally to prep for our caucus in Colorado. Lately, we've been encountering a lot of pro-Romney support because "he is most electable", and the like. Usually, the most important issues reported are the economy, butting taxes and also personal rights (never more war). We've also encountered anti-Paul stuff, even among "Libertarian" Republicans. The common thread seems to be their hangup on Ron's perceived stance on foreign policy. I guess this is turning into a bit of a rant, but I really, really wish Ron would hammer home tomorrow night his stance on foreign policy in a good way that isn't easily spinnable. All he has to say is something like "If there is an actual threat to the US, we should win it decisively and come home. No nation building."... and don't get hung up on technicalities and over-complicate it. Unfortunately, people tend to vote emotionally and against someone. But I'm preaching to the choir.

How how everyone else's phone calls been going? I'm getting a bit discouraged.

 

[bunklocoempire]

Bump and +rep. There are years of brainwashing you're dealing with, hang in there, and thank you!

 

[Okie RP fan]

Thanks so much to you and your wife for calling.

And don't worry, many of us on here have been demanding a foreign policy ad. There's threads in this section, and there's one I started in the Campaign Suggestion section with points that need to be touched on in a one to one and a half minute ad.

The campaign really needs to cut us a break at some point with the foreign policy, though.

Releasing an ad that is viral worthy can begin the turn back in our favor.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

From on-the-ground here in Charleston SC phonebanking and canvassing, THANK YOU for calling. It helps more than you know!

 

[Franky6767]

Just made a comment in another thread about the exact same thing with foreign policy....IMO you are exactly right. Alot of support for Ron Paul in everyway in the low country but the foreign policy is killing him here with ALOT of people I talk to. He just needs to hammer that detail alittle and the tide would turn his way in a big way. Frustrating talking to some and they love his ideas only to have them hang up and not budge on that one detail.

 

[EBounding]

Paul simply needs to explain his foreign policy just as well as his advisers and supporters. He needs to say what he will do; not just what he won't do.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Yeah, I have heard some of the "electability" and inevitability of Romney. Maybe that propaganda will take a hit if Santorum comes out as the actual winner of Iowa. We'll see.

 

[kill the banks]

" All he has to say is something like "If there is an actual threat to the US, we should win it decisively and come home. No nation building."... and don't get hung up on technicalities and over-complicate it. Unfortunately, people tend to vote emotionally and against some one "

sounds like this should go into campaign suggestion box ! Because I feel we can win with our policy as polls indicate that people want out of wars generally

 

[kusok]

aren't our mods with connections to someone who can at least related the message to campaign???

 

[jacmicwag]

I hate to say this but you have to take Ron at face value for what he has already said. It may be who he is after so many years of fighting the war hawks. I'm not sure he can take a strong position or make a bold statment about kicking ass if we are attacked. As an anti-war vet, it really saddens me his intellectual position comes across as so weak.

 

[unknown]

Keep in mind that the lists are scrubbed for Ron Paul supporters. So when we do find one, its a big score.

His foreign policy is relatively clear but the media has been spinning and misrepresenting his positions, to put it mildly: "Ron Paul wants Iran to have a nuke".

Thats also where we come in. We have to help get the correct message out there whenever possible.

 

[Monotaur]

Thanks for the encouragement everyone. I actually haven't found a single Ron Paul supporter in my precinct in Colorado (besides my wife and I), unfortunately. But I'll make more calls tomorrow and keep pushing.

As for what Ron needs to do, I know I'm preaching to the choir, like I've said. Unfortunately though, I think time is running out for Ron to reiterate his position fully before too many people get the idea that a Romney win is inevitable.

 

[jacmicwag]

Thanks for the encouragement everyone. I actually haven't found a single Ron Paul supporter in my precinct in Colorado (besides my wife and I), unfortunately. But I'll make more calls tomorrow and keep pushing.

As for what Ron needs to do, I know I'm preaching to the choir, like I've said. Unfortunately though, I think time is running out for Ron to reiterate his position fully before too many people get the idea that a Romney win is inevitable.

Well, hang in there all the same. In 2008 we did the door to door canvas thing in our precinct and it took a few days to flush out supporters. In the end, we had 7 of the 15 folks who hung around after voting to be delegates for Paul. All of us made it in at that level.

 

[Blue_Merle]

Lately, we've been encountering a lot of pro-Romney support because "he is most electable", and the like.

Thank you for all you have been doing.

You are not the first one to mention Ron Paul's Kryptonite -- Electability. This very likely may be the most direct cause of his loss.

Unfortunately the problem is that our grassroots aka THIS FORUM has a reputation of lashing out at any and all critics of the campaign on the Electability issue.

Doug Wead slings mud at the pundits about it, but that's it. So I would recommend keeping hush about that around here unless you want verbal lashings from the trolls.

 

[J_White]

I really dont understand why Campaign does not have a conference or a written plan about Dr.Paul's FP views.
What are they waiting for and giving the media all it needs to spin the fact negatively ?

 

[TheLasersShadow]

I sometimes think RP is just to inflexible and so stubbornly stuck to his core philosophy (what makes him great as well) is really going to be the reason he doesn't break through and get the populous football watching beer guzzeling non-book reading masses (harsh i know). I wish he would come out and just say something to appease the war hungry, something that wouldn't break his values but bend them a tad. I want to win I couldn't give a shit about purity at this point I really don't care. We're in dire economic straights heading into a collapse situation, as long as we know the core of a candidate screw it LIE TO THEM. We get held back on our side because we are righteous, we are the good guys ... we don't lie and tell the people want they want to hear then do what we want when we get in like every asshole in government does.

 

[jacmicwag]

I sometimes think RP is just to inflexible and so stubbornly stuck to his core philosophy (what makes him great as well) is really going to be the reason he doesn't break through and get the populous football watching beer guzzeling non-book reading masses (harsh i know). I wish he would come out and just say something to appease the war hungry, something that wouldn't break his values but bend them a tad. I want to win I couldn't give a shit about purity at this point I really don't care. We're in dire economic straights heading into a collapse situation, as long as we know the core of a candidate screw it LIE TO THEM. We get held back on our side because we are righteous, we are the good guys ... we don't lie and tell the people want they want to hear then do what we want when we get in like every asshole in government does.

I'm certain that and more is within him. Not sure if he can change his own perspective to say those things even if he believes we have the right to fight back.

 

[jctii0]

Thanks for the encouragement everyone. I actually haven't found a single Ron Paul supporter in my precinct in Colorado (besides my wife and I), unfortunately. But I'll make more calls tomorrow and keep pushing.

As for what Ron needs to do, I know I'm preaching to the choir, like I've said. Unfortunately though, I think time is running out for Ron to reiterate his position fully before too many people get the idea that a Romney win is inevitable.

What county are you in? Are you using VoterTracker? Also, even though you haven't found any RP supporters, if you're on decent terms with your neighbors, get them to vote for YOU, not RP. That's all that matters. Hopefully they will vote for you just because they like you and that you're "dedicated to getting Barack Obama out of office."

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Keep in mind that the lists are scrubbed for Ron Paul supporters. So when we do find one, its a big score.

His foreign policy is relatively clear but the media has been spinning and misrepresenting his positions, to put it mildly: "Ron Paul wants Iran to have a nuke".

Thats also where we come in. We have to help get the correct message out there whenever possible.

Truth. You don't have to find the 30% RPers because the RPers are not targeted, so any ONE you find is eeeeeenormous.

 

[nayjevin]

I disagree with much of the analysis in this thread.

The campaign has put out foreign policy videos. The grassroots has as well. Ron has written books on the subject, and given speeches on the House floor. Plenty of resources are available. See here:

*** New to Ron Paul? *** Start here.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?339132

Additionally, we should not expect pro-war republicans to accept Ron's foreign policy in a day. It takes more than that, and more than one commercial. But each time a good point is made (in every debate he's made several) progress is made. Often folks are most against an idea just prior to accepting it.

The campaign is doing what it 'needs' to do. The resources are there, the tools are there. Ron has shown that he can convert folks to non-intervention like no one else in politics. We need nothing more than a continuation of this process.

Also remember, delegates are power. Iowa, with all its botched vote counting, has yet to determine delegates. If Romney is the 'inevitable' winner, then more folks will choose to stay home. There is much we have to be thankful for, most of which those supporters who continue as positive volunteers.