The Official Texas Results Thread

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Surprised at Paul' district

 

[Respect38]

To me, the question is:

Why are they still using ballots with Bachmann still on there? Did people write her in?

 

[QuickZ06]

To me, the question is:

Why are they still using ballots with Bachmann still on there? Did people write her in?

She was on the electronic ballot.

 

[Respect38]

She was on the electronic ballot.

That's even worse... ouch.

 

[devil21]

I dont know for sure but I think "suspending" your campaigns does two things. Maintains your delegate count (unofficial) and keeps you on future ballots that you already paid for. If you completely end your campaign you get removed from future ballots even if you qualified for it. The benefit there for that candidate is obvious but it also serves to split future votes and let the frontrunner run away with it.

If Im wrong please correct me.

 

[Keith and stuff]

I am really ashamed that Texas didn't do better for Paul. People did not vote for Romney because they are enthusiastic about thim. All they care about is getting Obama out of office.

I don't think it is anything to be ashamed of. We saw the hand writing on the wall. Look at the other 3 times he ran for an office that was statewide or federal in TX.
1984 Republican Senate Primary election 16.5% (4 way race)
1988 Presidential election 0.56% (4 way race)
2008 Republican Presidential Primary election 5% (3 way race)
2012 Republican Presidential Primary election 12% (2 way race)

I don't get why people thought from the beginning that we would have Texas in the bag. Ron was the congressman from one of many texas district, not a statewide figure.

I don't think anyone thought that Ron Paul had the popular vote in the bag in Texas. It was one of his worst states in 2008, why would it be his best in 2012?

However, I think people have some hope that his supporters will do well at some of the convention elections in TX. They may be correct

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

She was on the electronic ballot.

Yeah, like that couldn't be removed in a few seconds. lol

I dont know for sure but I think "suspending" your campaigns does two things. Maintains your delegate count (unofficial) and keeps you on future ballots that you already paid for. If you completely end your campaign you get removed from future ballots even if you qualified for it. The benefit there for that candidate is obvious but it also serves to split future votes and let the frontrunner run away with it.

If Im wrong please correct me.

How do/did they pay for them. I think I'm ok with that, but need further education.

 

[Vanilluxe]

I don't think it is anything to be ashamed of. We saw the hand writing on the wall. Look at the other 3 times he ran for an office that was statewide or federal in TX.
1984 Republican Senate Primary election 16.5% (4 way race)

Its amazing how someone holding the same office as Ron Paul at that time beat him by 74% to 17%, I guess the establishment flooded that guy with money.

 

[TruckinMike]

To simplify things a bit...

We Texans LOVE to listen to the Radio Mafia - WE love our FOX news along with the big and bold talk of war. You see we love to fight - hell, what other state has an Alamo? SHootin' fightin', and dyin' IS our heritage - so when some crackled voiced puny old man (from Pennsylvania) says stop the wars - its tantamount to saying WE should have surrendered at the Alamo - and we all know that thats pure, unadulterated Sacrilege! Hex hex hex on that demon Ron Paul! How dare him!

Understand? Hope that helps.

TMike

 

[mickey mouse joy division]

Texas is a pretty horrible state, to be honest. I spent 10 years between North Dallas and Austin. I know the place pretty well. It's not all it's hyped up to be by "liberty lovers." I endured 10 years of Rick Perry. I'm not giving Texas any credit.

 

[Matthew5]

Texas is a pretty horrible state, to be honest. I spent 10 years between North Dallas and Austin. I know the place pretty well. It's not all it's hyped up to be by "liberty lovers." I endured 10 years of Rick Perry. I'm not giving Texas any credit.

lol Not everyone can handle being a Texan...it's ok.

I'm not sure who would ever give the impression that Texas is a haven for liberty. Perhaps you're confusing the independent Texas pride with general liberty? There's some great places to go off the grid though in Texas.

 

[Carlybee]

Texas has never been a liberty state. Its the Lone Star state in that for years it was self sustaining in terms of the oil industry, agriculture, etc. And Texans like to "go our own way". Its still politically run by big oil and the old boy system except Austin which is California junior.

 

[tremendoustie]

If the illegals you hire and invite use none of these services, we have no reason for disagreement. However, such is not the case.

If the government did not take one persons property and give it to another, we would have no need for this conversation.

The problem is the services, not the immigration. Your logic is the same as the leftist who claims that because we have partially socialized medicine, they have a right to control what you eat or how much you exercise, because you might avail yourself of medicare/medicaid/emergency services later.

The fact that an immigrant might use government services is not an excuse to outlaw (or arbitrarily manage) immigration. Your logic goes the wrong way, to grow government control rather than shrink it.

 

[romancito]

The problem is the services, not the immigration. Your logic is the same as the leftist who claims that because we have partially socialized medicine, they have a right to control what you eat or how much you exercise, because you might avail yourself of medicare/medicaid/emergency services later.

The fact that an immigrant might use government services is not an excuse to outlaw (or arbitrarily manage) immigration. Your logic goes the wrong way, to grow government control rather than shrink it.

Correct. Illegal immigrants should be left to fend by themselves, build their own schools, groceries, clinics, hospitals, everything they would want to have in their communities without government intervention in their affairs, except they should pay taxes like the rest of society. They should be like gypsies. Give them zero government services, but don't interrupt them in their building of their own communities. But they need to pay taxes, that's all.

 

[LostNFoundNTx]

I dont know for sure but I think "suspending" your campaigns does two things. Maintains your delegate count (unofficial) and keeps you on future ballots that you already paid for. If you completely end your campaign you get removed from future ballots even if you qualified for it. The benefit there for that candidate is obvious but it also serves to split future votes and let the frontrunner run away with it.

If Im wrong please correct me.

You are basically correct, but here are some more details.

After qualifying for the ballot in Texas, a candidate can only be removed by death or official withdrawal. Rule 38, section 2 (b):

Withdrawal or Death of Candidate: A Presidential candidate may withdraw from participation in the Presidential Primary at any time by filing with the Secretary of the SREC a signed and acknowledged request to that effect. If a Presidential candidate dies or withdraws before the seventy-ninth (79th) day prior to Election Day, the name of the candidate shall not appear on the ballot. If a candidate dies or withdraws during the seventy-nine (79) days before Primary Election Day, the votes cast for that candidate shall be deemed votes for uncommitted delegates and alternates. For the purpose of this section, withdrawal shall be accomplished only by the candidate filing a signed and acknowledged request to that effect with the Secretary of the SREC.

 

[MarcusI]

Correct. Illegal immigrants should be left to fend by themselves, build their own schools, groceries, clinics, hospitals, everything they would want to have in their communities without government intervention in their affairs, except they should pay taxes like the rest of society. They should be like gypsies. Give them zero government services, but don't interrupt them in their building of their own communities. But they need to pay taxes, that's all.

And then you have big criminal colonies. Wow.

Controlling illegal immigration is part of the very basic security a government is responsible for.

 

[Fredom101]

Correct. Illegal immigrants should be left to fend by themselves, build their own schools, groceries, clinics, hospitals, everything they would want to have in their communities without government intervention in their affairs, except they should pay taxes like the rest of society. They should be like gypsies. Give them zero government services, but don't interrupt them in their building of their own communities. But they need to pay taxes, that's all.

Why not just do like Ron Paul says and get rid of the IRS? Then everyone coming in here has to make it on their own without the basket of goodies the gov't currently offers them.

 

[enoch150]

Controlling illegal immigration is part of the very basic security a government is responsible for.

The US had a completely open borders policy for its first 100 years. There were citizenship restrictions, but no immigration restrictions. For several decades after that the only enforced immigration policy was on Chinese and only if they came by boat. Serious immigration restrictions in the US didn't begin until the early 1900's.

 

[juvanya]

How did he get killed in a district that even votes for him? I swear people must just vote Republican and he just managed to win the primaries and hes only one congressman, so they let him have his seat. And then in this stuff everyone hears ROMNEY WON ROMENY WON so they vote for him.

I dont know for sure but I think "suspending" your campaigns does two things. Maintains your delegate count (unofficial) and keeps you on future ballots that you already paid for. If you completely end your campaign you get removed from future ballots even if you qualified for it. The benefit there for that candidate is obvious but it also serves to split future votes and let the frontrunner run away with it.

If Im wrong please correct me.

This is dicking us over in a crapload of states like South Dakota. Thats probably the evil establishment plot. Telling Santorum and Ging to stay on the ballots.

 

[ProBlue33]

You know I have to face the hard cold fact, if Ron Paul can not even carry his very own district, he can not be President.
This makes me very sad, but it is the reality, some noise will be made in Tampa, but this is over .
I guess Rand Paul 2016.