The official "Stand with Rand" moneybomb thread is here! April 7th!

[Barrex]

What is the goal going to be? How much do we expect to raise?

Goals are extremely important, but goal shouldnt be x amount of money. That is Cartmans method:

1. Step one
2. Step two
3. ????
4. PROFIT!!!

We should define our outputs.

Outputs:

1. database of contact:
- friendly Facebook pages with at least 1000 entries;
- web pages where potential donors gather/visit (tea party, anti war, liberty sites, blogs etc.) at least 4000 entries;
- yada yada... every online blog, social media group, web page, YouTube channel etc. that would promote money-bomb

2. written content:
- at least 10 versions of supportive letter to the editor
- at least 15 press releases
- at least 25 news articles with permission to publish freely

3. graphic&video content:
- at least 15 avatars of various sizes
- at least 10 Facebook-background-live wall-pictures
- at least 8 money-bomb gifs
- at least 5 promotional videos are sent

4. scripts, programs, internet witchcraft:
- web page created
- script/s that automatically replaces all social media pictures (avatar, timeline picture, background) on your main social media (Facebook, Twitter, Yelp, Youtube...) accounts to money-bomb themed pictures
- game "Who said it" Rand, Hillary, Bush...

5. MARKETING 80% of manpower and resources:
- 15 press releases sent to at least 5000 media outlets
- 500 letters to the editor sent to local media- paper and internet (better chances that they will be published)
- 25 articles sent to gazillion media outlets- TO EVERYONE- mass mailing lists... Tell them something big is coming and they can report on it from begining or when it is over and everyone is reporting on it.

We shouldnt contact potential donors one by one! We should target heads of organizations and centers of informations. Example:

Person 1. spends 2 hours contacting every person he is friend on Facebook. Result: 500 people are informed about money-bomb.
Person 2. spends 1 minute to post Facebook post on Fox Facebook page. Result: crapload more than 500 people are informed about money-bomb.
Person 3. spends 30 minutes to contact web portal that is friendly to Rand about money-bomb. Result: 100xcrapload more people are informed about money-bomb.

From my experience previous money-bombs were based on "Person 1" kind of promotion. We should focus on second and third example.

Depends on excitement level and how viral promotion becomes.

Excitement level and viral promotion depend on amount of planing, work and time put into it.

 

[whoisjohngalt]

What is the goal going to be? How much do we expect to raise?

5 million

 

[Jeremy]

5 million

That seems way too high.

 

[whoisjohngalt]

That seems way too high.

I don't think it's way too high. It's certainly ambitious.

If he does announce on April 7th, as is widely expected, there will be a lot of excitement. Add to that the fact that it's a Tax Day Money Bomb in conjunction with Rand's release of his new Flat Tax Proposal (possibly Fair Tax but I doubt it) and this has the potential to be very big.

I can tell from the Facebook pages I'm involved with that the potential donor base for this moneybomb is far greater than it ever was for Ron. And lastly, everyone will know how much, if any, they are getting back on their tax return.

 

[Jeremy]

I don't think it's way too high. It's certainly ambitious.

If he does announce on April 7th, as is widely expected, there will be a lot of excitement. Add to that the fact that it's a Tax Day Money Bomb in conjunction with Rand's release of his new Flat Tax Proposal (possibly Fair Tax but I doubt it) and this has the potential to be very big.

I can tell from the Facebook pages I'm involved with that the potential donor base for this moneybomb is far greater than it ever was for Ron. And lastly, everyone will know how much, if any, they are getting back on their tax return.

We haven't seen anything close to that number from a moneybomb in 7-8 years though. Plus it's the first one, so it's difficult to estimate what it would look like. Previous Rand PAC fundraisers online have been pretty small.

 

[whoisjohngalt]

We haven't seen anything close to that number from a moneybomb in 7-8 years though. Plus it's the first one, so it's difficult to estimate what it would look like. Previous Rand PAC fundraisers online have been pretty small.

Previous Rand PAC fundraisers have not been promoted by the grass roots, so I wouldn't use that as a point of comparison. And obviously it's completely different when you are talking about a presidential candidate.

I'm expecting Black This Out type success (close to 3 million) but with a much wider donor base. We shall see. I know most people favor setting the bar low so that it looks good in the press. I'd rather push people to donate big with a high goal bc dollars are so much more valuable early on in the campaign.

The $1000 donation matching thread has already begun on Facebook. I'm feeling optimistic.

 

[Jeremy]

Previous Rand PAC fundraisers have not been promoted by the grass roots, so I wouldn't use that as a point of comparison. And obviously it's completely different when you are talking about a presidential candidate.

I'm expecting Black This Out type success (close to 3 million) but with a much wider donor base. We shall see. I know most people favor setting the bar low so that it looks good in the press. I'd rather push people to donate big with a high goal bc dollars are so much more valuable early on in the campaign.

The $1000 donation matching thread has already begun on Facebook. I'm feeling optimistic.

I think a bar of 3 million is still a pretty high goal and has a good amount of room to work hard for. During Rand's Senate campaign, moneybombs were around 250,000. Naturally this should be higher for his POTUS campaign, but I don't feel like we're at the same level of online enthusiasm as we were for Ron in late 2007.

 

[whoisjohngalt]

I think a bar of 3 million is still a pretty high goal and has a good amount of room to work hard for. During Rand's Senate campaign, moneybombs were around 250,000. Naturally this should be higher for his POTUS campaign, but I don't feel like we're at the same level of online enthusiasm as we were for Ron in late 2007.

I feel like we are trading depth for width regarding support and the new donors we are adding have more money. It's definitely not 2007, but not too far off from 2011. 3 million is probably a fair, realistic goal, but I would certainly take the over. Getting 30k people to donate an average of 100 shouldn't be very hard considering the timing.

If he doesn't announce in time, 1 million is probably optimistic.

 

[Brett85]

5 million

I was thinking just one million, but perhaps my expectations are too low. It seems like a lot of the hardcore Ron Paul supporters who donated to Ron don't like Rand and aren't going to donate to him. I would be surprised if Rand's money bombs are as big as Ron's were. I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like a good idea to set expectations too high.

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

I feel like we are trading depth for width regarding support and the new donors we are adding have more money. It's definitely not 2007, but not too far off from 2011. 3 million is probably a fair, realistic goal, but I would certainly take the over. Getting 30k people to donate an average of 100 shouldn't be very hard considering the timing.

If he doesn't announce in time, 1 million is probably optimistic.

$100 also isn't exactly a small amount of money for everyone.

 

[Brett85]

$100 also isn't exactly a small amount of money for everyone.

He was just saying that the average might be around $100. Some might give $25 or $50, others are talking about giving $1,000.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Work Package 0: Team recruitment
0.2. Lord Writer (standardized letters to the editor, press releases, news articles that people can send to their local media/blogs, radio, TV, newspapers)

....

WP 2: Creating content
2.1. Writing, drafting and editing emails, articles, short comments, opinions and letters to the editor graphic, widgets, banners, avatars, flyers.

I'll volunteer to do some of the writing.

P.S. I'm not really sure what kind of content I should be trying to produce at this point, so I guess if anyone is working on something moneybomb-related and finds himself in need of written content, just PM me. I could also edit something you've already written, if you like.

 

[Warlord]

Does anyone have the facebook link for those saying they will donate $1000 and match it?

 

[eleganz]

If we're talking about making big bucks on future money bombs the theme is absolutely crucial. It needs to show urgency, take a look at some of the fundraising emails that we get from RPInc., I definitely don't mind especially since I signed up to support but almost everything they do made it sound urgent as if success depended on YOU.

Second, the money bomb needs to be big tent just like Rand is. It needs to be polarizing and the people donating are the people who really f'ing care about that certain subject at that certain time. Polarizing issue + Rand Paul for President = big tent donations. Remember, there are plenty of Republicans who also like Rand outside of the liberty groups and those people need to be included.

 

[Jeremy]

I was thinking just one million, but perhaps my expectations are too low. It seems like a lot of the hardcore Ron Paul supporters who donated to Ron don't like Rand and aren't going to donate to him. I would be surprised if Rand's money bombs are as big as Ron's were. I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like a good idea to set expectations too high.

I think 1 million is closer to what I had in mind. So maybe 2-3 million to make us work hard for it.

 

[Brett85]

Does anyone have the facebook link for those saying they will donate $1000 and match it?

https://www.facebook.com/events/799900510065315/

 

[jurgs01]

I think 1 million is closer to what I had in mind. So maybe 2-3 million to make us work hard for it.

Make it $1 million. You can always bump the number based on the results early in the day.

 

[whoisjohngalt]

If we're talking about making big bucks on future money bombs the theme is absolutely crucial. It needs to show urgency, take a look at some of the fundraising emails that we get from RPInc., I definitely don't mind especially since I signed up to support but almost everything they do made it sound urgent as if success depended on YOU.

Second, the money bomb needs to be big tent just like Rand is. It needs to be polarizing and the people donating are the people who really f'ing care about that certain subject at that certain time. Polarizing issue + Rand Paul for President = big tent donations. Remember, there are plenty of Republicans who also like Rand outside of the liberty groups and those people need to be included.

Do you not think that tying it to Rand's flat tax proposal two weeks after he announces it isn't a good theme?
Do you not think that cutting taxes/getting rid of the IRS is a big tent issue that all the various factions agree on (if only nominally for some)?

I think the tax day/get rid of the IRS theme works perfectly.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Do you not think that tying it to Rand's flat tax proposal two weeks after he announces it isn't a good theme?
Do you not think that cutting taxes/getting rid of the IRS is a big tent issue that all the various factions agree on (if only nominally for some)?

I think the tax day/get rid of the IRS theme works perfectly.

Agreed. I wasn't entirely sold at first, but this will work just fine.

 

[Sentinelrv]

I'm interested to find out how Bitcoin supporters will affect these money bombs. I'm heavily involved in Peercoin and NuBits, but I'm not aware of how favorable normal Bitcoin supporters are to Rand. Is anyone aware of what their general feeling is toward him?

I imagine many Bitcoiners to be libertarian leaning. Also, I'm thinking about how many millionaires that were created as a result of Bitcoin's price increase. According to coinmarketcap.com, there seems to be an overall market cap of around $4.5 billion dollars in crypto, excluding investments in businesses and other things. If only 1% of this money was donated to Rand's campaign or a PAC, it could make a huge difference.

The question is whether Rand is favorable to cryptocurrency like Bitcoin. If so, should we advertise these money bombs directly to Bitcoin supporters by taking out ads on http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoin and other places? Could this be a good area to target for raising money?